HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/28/1995 MEETING MINUTES City of Bremerton
Parks & Recreation Department
Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
MINUTES
(approved edition)
Tuesday, February 28 , 1995
5: 30 p.m.
Smith School
1201 Park Avenue
ATTENDANCE: Craig Smith, Mariwyn Tinsley, Carol Johnson, Larry
Hall, Larry Sampson, Michael Vaughn.
STAFF: Pat Harris, Director of Parks & Recreation, Jodi
Wroblewski, Assistant Director, Becky Lorber, Recreation Program
Coordinator (Senior Center) , Lena D'Agostino, Office Assistant II .
AUDIENCE: R.K. Smith
I. CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Craig Smith called the meeting to
order at 5: 33 p.m.
II. ITEMS FROM THE AUDIENCE: None.
III. AGENDA
1. Addition
Commissioner Craig Smith added Becky Lorber from the
Bremerton Senior Center to the agenda.
2. Approval as submitted or revised
M/S/C/U (Tinsley/Johnson) to approve the agenda as
revised.
Becky Lorber, Recreation Program Coordinator at the
Bremerton Senior Center, announced an upcoming scholarship
fundraiser (lunch) for the seniors to be held at the Senior Center
on St. Patrick's Day (Friday, March 17) , from 11: 30 a.m. to 1:00
p.m. The fun and games will include the gallows and the gallery,
auctioning of the gallery items (handmade quality items by the
seniors) . Lunch tickets cost $4.00 each.
IV. OLD BUSINESS - SALVATION ARMY PARKING LOT
In response to an inquiry about the parking lot status,
Pat Harris said he drafted a memorandum to Randy Witt, City
Engineer. Ironically, the Engineering Department crew started
working on the preliminary grading of the lot the same day the memo
was sent to Randy. They are now waiting for a better and warmer
weather to asphalt. The parking lot should be completed and
bringing in revenue within the next 30 days.
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V. NEW BUSINESS
1. FOREST RIDGE PARK STREET CLOSURE
Commissioner Craig Smith mentioned an interesting article
from the Bremerton Sun Newspaper regarding Forest Ridge Park and
asked everyone present if they have seen it. Except for
Commissioner Johnson, no one had seen the article.
Pat said the Mayor has approved funding for the Parks and
Recreation Department to do improvements at Forest Ridge Park. A
neighborhood meeting was held at the beginning of this month with
Councilmembers Sherril Huff-Menees (District #7) and Carlos
Montgomery (District #8) . During the meeting, the group went over
a letter that Pat addressed to Councilman Montgomery which outlined
the proposed improvements that could be made at Forest Ridge Park
within the confines of the funding allocated for this project. One
of the things that Pat has been working with Engineering and Police
Department is the proposal to close Summit Avenue due to a number
of traffic and security reasons. Pat informed the Commission that
Detective John Johnson,the DARE Program, talked about that park
from a security/patrol perspective and he (Det. Johnson) felt
strongly that limiting the traffic through there and reducing the
access point would really help make the park a safer park. Pat
presented this idea at the neighborhood meeting and there was a
strong support from the neighbors in that area to do as planned.
If the plan to close off the street is approved, signs and
direction arrows for the park entrances will be placed at the north
end of Burwell so that people know that the park is there. In
doing so, Pat felt this would make Forest Ridge more park-like.
Right now it has been used as an inter-urban transportation route.
Pat did a traffic counts with Engineering Department crew on both
Burwell and Summit Streets and came up with anywhere from 70 to 170
vehicles a day which is not significant relative to major
thoroughfare but nevertheless impacts the park. Pat asked that the
Parks and Recreation Commission recommend the closure of the north
end of the road at Summit and closing the Burwell Street access to
the park. Pat presented a map outlining the proposal and informed
the Commission that the Department would like to try this proposal
on a trial basis for a one-year period.
It was moved by Commissioner Smith and seconded by
Commissioner Larry Hall to recommend approval of said proposal for
a one-year trial period and, if necessary, revisited if any
problems occurred. Motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Tinsley asked Pat if the tennis courts at
Forest Ridge Park will become parking space or they stay as they
are. Pat said the Department anticipates refurbishing the tennis
courts and due to theft and vandalism problems in the past, steel
tennis courts will be installed and properly secured.
2. INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT - BREMERTON SCHOOL DISTRICT
Pat mentioned that he has been working on this issue with
Walt Draper, Bremerton School District Support Services Supervisor.
The School District's concerns were primarily over who would be the
users of their facilities and what kind of programs the Parks and
Recreation Department would be providing at their facilities.
These issues were clarified to their satisfaction and they are
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fully aware as to what the Department's goal is in terms of
programming. That goal being: to have the ability to expand the
programs by having additional classrooms, athletic fields and
gymnasiums. Pat was informed by Mr. Draper that the Department
will initially have access to advanced scheduling for the fields
starting this spring. They (school district) have long-standing
agreements and working relationships with other non-profit -
organizations over the use of their facilities. The Department's
time on the fields will work on that schedule and the school
district will grant a favorable rental rate; the same rate they
charge for non-profit organizations. Pat said he is optimistic
that this arrangement will work out. At this point, the school
district has not expressed interest in using the Department's
facilities because they are more limited, other than the potential
for again using the Bremerton Municipal swimming pool for their
school lessons. Pat said he wanted to share this update to the
Commissioners and based on their recommendations, he will bring the
issue to the City Council. Pat further explained that this
agreement is also a framework in trying to establish a long-term
working relation with the school district which he felt is
important.
Commissioner Smith requested a motion from the
Commissioners to agree with the interlocal agreement between the
Bremerton School District and the Parks and Recreation Department.
M/S/C/U (Hall/Tinsley) to approve the agreement.
3. REVISED ROOSEVELT FIELD REPLACEMENT PLAN/FUNDING
STRATEGIES
Commissioner Tinsley reported that during the last
several months, the Commissioners have been reviewing the Roosevelt
Field Task Force recommendations based upon the Commission's
preliminary work and their subsequent meeting with Mayor Horton.
At the January, 1995, meeting the Roosevelt Field Task Force was
asked to meet again and to put together a recommendation and bring
that to the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Commissioner Tinsley then reviewed with the Commissioners
the proposal that was formulated pertaining to funding based upon
the property down at the waterfront. This proposal was developed
in a phase-in period; addressing the needs of the parks facilities
first and then the school district property after promoting parks
property. Phase 1 addresses the Evergreen Park expansion and the
contribution to Legion Field. Phase 2 recommends purchasing and
development of the Haddon site, as well as rehabilitating Warren
Avenue and Manette Playfields. Phase 3 then recommends upgrading
the school district properties so that they can be used for Parks
& Recreation programs. Commissioner Tinsley indicated that now
that an agreement exists between the Parks and Recreation
Department and the school district, this provides good support for
taking this recommendation forward.
Rich Hanna, City Treasurer, was contacted and met with
the Task Force to discuss current financial status of the Roosevelt
Field Trust fund. They also discussed the revenue stream and
reviewed the borrowing capability in order to fund the proposed
program. It was suggested that the Department had the capability
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to borrow on a 20-year bond arrangements. There is a question
regarding whether or not that would be accepted by the City Council
given the current redevelopment plans for the waterfront. Rich was
requested to develop a funding report to be used for the study
sessions with the City Council . The Roosevelt Replacement Fund
receives approximately $80,000 plus the revenue stream from
additional parking space that we would acquire from the Salvation
Army. The question is how to address the replacement program when
there are other things going on at present that address that piece
of property as well . The task force felt that it was important to
not just go forward with only the list of property but also the
financial information that shows how the projects would be paid
for.
A consensus was reached by the Task Force to exclude
Blueberry Park from the replacement proposal because it is not
believed to fit the requirements outlined for Roosevelt Field
Replacement projects. It has been determined that the site is not
large enough for a youth field. It was also felt that the Haddon
site had a greater possibility and the location will better serve
the youth/children in that neighborhood. Commissioner Tinsley
reiterated that this was the recommendation from the task force to
the Parks and Recreation Commission. This serves as a worksheet
for the Commission as a collective group to decide whether or not
to proceed with the recommendation, or make the necessary
adjustments.
Pat added that at the meeting, one of the things that
Commissioner Tinsley asked Pat to do was to address the funding
issue in terms of potential development on the Bremerton Lumber
site. In this regard, Pat wrote a letter to Phil Nachbar,
Bremerton Planning Department, and met with him to discuss the
revenue stream commitment made by the City Council on the Roosevelt
Field Replacement Fund. Pat gave Phil a background/sense of
history and informed him of the issues that was going on with the
community. Pat said Phil had heard about this issue from other
people including the Mayor. The Mayor has already indicated to
Phil that the development program that takes place on the Bremerton
Lumber site property has to preserve the Roosevelt Field Fund
revenue stream in some way. The study by Les Tonkin addresses the
continuing need for on-site parking. The city will get back with
the developers with the commitment for the Parks & Recreation
Department as to certain amount of money, and city would want to
make sure to get its returns on the investment. As the
redevelopment endeavor continues, staff would be keeping their eyes
and ears open as it goes through and will update the Commissioners
on the progress.
Commissioner Tinsley said she thought that the letter
written by Pat to Phil Nachbar was excellent and thorough.
Commissioner Vaughn added that he appreciated the fact
that everyone was made aware of these issues and that it is on the
front burner where it should be.
Pat informed the group that the scheduled time for the
City Council Study Session will be April 3 , Monday, starting time
would be at 6 :00 p.m. At that meeting, Pat is also arranging to
present the Blueberry Parks and Evergreen Park Master Plans
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proposals to the City Council .
Commissioner Smith asked Pat as to the type of field the
Department is looking at for the Haddon site. Pat replied that the
site is about 4 .5 acres and facilities have not been identified.
A master plan should be developed for the site. Pat indicated that
the Commission and the City should first concentrate acquiring this
. property. Commissioner Tinsley suggested looking at a neighborhood
meeting to find out what the needs are. She suggested that finding
out the children's age groups in that area would be
helpful .
Commissioner Smith reminded the group that there will be
another meeting before the April 3rd study session. Pat suggested
inviting the Mayor for the end of April meeting instead of March.
He added that the Commission will leave some space for next month's
agenda to go through the task force report. Commissioner Tinsley
commented that the Commission need not necessarily have to put
together a whole lot of documents except for the recommendations
and interlocal agreement with the district as supporting documents.
Commissioner Smith requested a motion to developtask
a
force report. M/S/C/U (Sampson/Hall) to approve the motion.
VI. STAFF REPORT
Pat mentioned that he and Jodi sent out letters to
Representatives about House Bill 1617. The bill is significant and
it threatens the Department's major funding source (Interagency
Committee (IAC) ) for park property acquisitions. IAC has about $70
million that could disappear and go to other priorities. One of
the Representatives responded to this request. Pat and Jodi will
be attending their public meeting in Olympia and share point of
view/perspective on this issue.
Pat encouraged all the Commissioners to attend the
Evergreen Park Master Plan meeting and share the consultants'
presentation tonight right after the Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting. He also reminded the group about another
forthcoming meeting for Blueberry Park which will be held at the
public library on Sylvan Way this coming Thursday, March 3rd.
Pat reported that Mayor Horton interviewed a prospective
Commissioner, Scott Krone. She will be presenting this appointment
to City Council in the near future.
Pat informed the group that he attended a neighborhood
meeting last week for the Kitsap Lake area. One of the questions
that was brought up by Commissioner Hall was what the neighbors'
input were relating to the drop fee for the boat launch. The
response was not positive on this issue and some of the responses
from the neighbors include: too much government, too expensive,
etc. However, Pat received some good feedbacks about providing
outdoor shower, and boat wash-off in the area. The real issue for
that particular neighborhood is the "enforcement" issue on the
Kitsap Lake. Pat made certain that the residents understood that
the Parks and Recreation Department is not an enforcement agency
and it does not deal with complaints about speeding boats, etc. ,
and that they should call 9-1-1 to report these type of problems.
The neighbors have a certain amount of frustration for not getting
a good response from the Police Department. Pat shared that
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information with the Police Chief. Overall , the meeting was very
informative and Pat was able to find out about the residents'
perspective of what is going on at Kitsap Lake.
VII. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS
Commission Hall brought up the issue of developing. a funding
strategy to make the Parks & Recreation Department more self
sufficient. Itis his belief that in order for the Department to
progress, the Department must be able to provide more of its own
funding.
Pat verified that what Commissioner Hall was asking was
a change in the philosophy of the City regarding the Parks and
Recreation services that is provided to the community. Whether the
Department should charge for a lot of those services is not
something that Pat could address without a great deal of study. If
the Commission wanted to pursue the idea regarding different
funding sources for Parks and Recreation services, Pat said he can
certainly suggest a number of areas that the Department currently
does not charge for which could generate fees and revenues.
Currently, the Department generates about a quarter of a million
dollars out of about $1.4 million budget total excluding the golf
course operations. There has not been an emphasis in increasing
the revenues because the revenue generated goes into the general
fund. If the Department could generate more funds by raising fees
and/or creating new fees, Pat suggested that it would be highly
probable that there would be a simultaneous proportionate reduction
in support from the general fund thus achieving no gain and
jeopardizing the base the Department currently depends on. Pat
said he agrees with the Commissioners that the percentage the Parks
& Recreation Department receives from the General Fund is
inadequate to meet the expanding needs of the Department, he is
hopeful that the Mayor will continue financial support with the
Real Estate Excise Tax Fund. Pat will bring back at the next
meeting a number of ideas and get some feedbacks to see if they are
worth pursuing.
Commissioner Vaughn commented he felt that the issue is
to decide whether or not the Commission/Department pursue that
philosophy. He had seen it happened in other municipalities where
the park generates funds for dedicated use and the funds they
received from the general fund is decreased by that amount and a
lot of times it does not end up with a net gain. So if there is no
net gain in the funds, in someways alienate or least impact the use
of parks.
Commissioner Hall requested that the Commissioners be
provided with copies of Kitsap Lake Fish Pro Report. Pat said he
will forward copies to all Commissioners.
Commissioner Hall reported that the Kitsap Lake Fishpro
report came in and contained recommendations regarding the
elimination of the aquatic weeds. the report suggested that the
Department purchase weedcutters to deal with the weed problem in
the lake. In addition, the City could loan or rent the equipment
to the lake residents for their use. The report also mentioned
that installing aqua screens would inhibit growth of the aquatic
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weeds . Commissioner Hall requested that the Department install
these screens sometime before June 1995.
Pat said the Department will have to seriously pursue
funding/granting sources these recommendations. This issue can
certainly be revisited and look at applying for grants.
Commissioner Vaughn commented that he is not familiar
with this issue and would like to request a copy of the executive
summary of recommendations on this issue. Pat said he will also
provide the Commissioners copies on this subject as requested.
Commissioner Johnson announced that the Department made
almost $2,000 from the Comedy Night and over $1100 from the silent
auction. The fundraising event was held at the Cloverleaf
Restaurant to benefit Pendergast Regional Park.
Also according to Commissioner Johnson, Al Colvin, City
Councilmember (District #1) mentioned to her a basketball court on
Juniper Street that was paid for and built by a gentleman named
Cliff McKenzie, who died of a heart attack three months ago while
painting it. The children of this deceased gentleman are
requesting the city to officially name the basketball court after
their father. They needed permission to accomplish this due to the
fact that the basketball court was partially built on city property
(Stephenson Canyon) . Commissioner Johnson suggested adding this
subject to the next agenda.
Commissioner Smith commented that he appreciated the way
the Commission is moving with some of the issues and also
appreciated all the communication that is in the packet and the
information feedbacks provided to all the Commissioners for this
meeting.
VIII. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: JANUARY 24, 1995
M/S/C/U (Tinsley/Johnson) to approve the minutes as
submitted.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 6: 30 p.m.
Lena D'Agostino Pat Harris, Director
Office Asst. II Parks and Recreation Dept.
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