HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/07/2004 MINUTESMinutes for
Planning Commission Special Meeting
"Study Session"
December 7, 2004
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Commissioner Streissguth at 5:35 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Those present were: Commissioner Cockburn, Commissioner Kennedy, Commissioner
Kosusko, Commissioner Nelson, Commissioner Friedberg -Nerf, and Commissioner Streissguth.
Quorum certified.
III. Approval of Agenda
After reading directly from the By -laws to determine the proper procedure for officer elections
and the duties of the Vice -chair in the absence of the Chair, Commissioner Streissguth
introduced the agenda. A motion was made by Commissioner Kosusko and seconded by
Commissioner Nelson to approve the agenda as presented. Called for a vote: Cockburn:
Yes; Kennedy: Yes; Kosusko: Yes; Nelson: Yes; Streissguth: Yes; Friedberg -Nerf: Yes. The
motion carried.
IV. Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the Regular Meeting held on November 16, 2004 were presented for approval by
Commissioner Streissguth. A motion was made by Commissioner Nelson and seconded by
Commissioner Kennedy to approve the Regular Meeting Minutes of November 16, 2004 as
presented. Called for a vote: Cockburn: Yes; Kennedy: Yes; Kosusko: Yes; Nelson: Yes;
Streissguth: Yes; and Friedberg -Nerf; Yes. The motion carried.
V. PUBLIC MEETING
A. Call To The Public (public comments on any item not on tonight's agenda). Seeing
none, Commissioner Streissguth closed this portion of the meeting.
B. Public Hearinc Paul Rogerson began with the Staff Report. Copies of the updated
zoning code were distributed and Paul read through the changes that had been made in
the Commercial Corridor chapter: under the Permitted Uses section, the word "gross"
had been added in regards to floor area; also the phrase "uses include but are not limited
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to" replaced the previous language pertaining to [permitted] uses. Language was also
changed to exclude adult oriented businesses from this chapter. Outdoor Recreational
Facilities, which had included parks, would not be a permitted use along the Kitsap Way
Commercial Corridor; they could be a secondary use on a site. Parks are now located in
centers and would not be appropriate in a commercial corridor.
There was some discussion regarding the permitted uses in the Commercial Corridor,
especially the use of the term "but not limited to" could potentially be dangerous without
more specific wording or referring to §22.22.04. It was agreed to change the language to
be more specific.
Paul moved on to a subsection of Automobile Related Uses, Automobile Services; it had
originally been listed as Automobile Repair which staff thought was too narrow so it was
changed. Also, gas stations were added to the list of conditional uses.
There were several changes made to the section regarding Development Standards, but
the one Paul felt most important was the addition of a table that listed standards with a
change to the minimum side yard setbacks and minimum rear yard setbacks for
residential and non - residential uses. The change came about because of the possibility of
secondary uses and how close a commercial use could get to a secondary residential use.
There was some discussion regarding how mixed use buildings would factor into the
setback requirement as well as general discussion about what is included in the
Commercial Corridor, the Oyster Bay Center, and Commercial Freeway. Paul
highlighted the lot coverage bonuses allowed to development which was essentially the
same as the previous draft with the exception of the addition of placing an improved
pedestrian area to the site. Paul read directly from the chapter on what requirements are
needed for that bonus.
The Design Guideline section is in a box because staff wanted to know if Design
Guidelines were what the Commission wanted in the initial zone package; are the
Development Standards in the previous section enough to accomplish what is proposed in
the zones, and should more specific guidelines be something that is addressed through the
public process. Chris suggested that if something is definite and /or can be shown in an
example, such as the overhang of a building, it should be included in the design standard,
otherwise it would be a guideline and open to interpretation. Paul noted that previous
drafts of the Commercial Corridor did not contain Design Guidelines and the idea of
adding the guidelines came about because of earlier discussions and concerns the
Planning Commission had for that area of the city.
In the Wheaton Way Redevelopment Corridor, Paul noted the changes made are similar
to the Commercial Corridor and quickly read through them. There was some discussion
of lighting requirements for gas stations. Paul suggested having that type of requirement
under the sign, landscaping, or lighting section of the [Bremerton Municipal] Code.
Paul then read through the Similar Use section of the WWRC, again noting that a parallel
change was made in the Commercial Corridor. He read the text of the Similar Use
section and there was a short discussion on this subject. Commissioner Cockburn asked,
if each section was saying the same thing, why not say it once and change the format of
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the zoning code to reflect that decision. Paul explained that not every chapter had the
same wording and when making a declaration at the beginning of the code, all of the
exceptions would have to be noted as well. He noted that the zoning code would more
than likely get a complete rewrite before finalization that would be able to address
formatting issues such as this.
Commissioner Cockburn asked why drive - through car washes were not included with
gas stations under the conditional uses. Paul said that car washes were allowed outright
in the General Business, Industrial General, and Industrial Park zones and as Special
Uses in Freeway Commercial, CD and BC zones. There was general discussion about
uses that have to be permitted outright in certain zones without having to go through the
public hearing process.
Paul moved on to minimum side yard and minimum rear yard setback requirements.
Staff was concerned about the ten foot setback for a commercial use from an R -10 zone
and felt that twenty -five feet would be more appropriate. Paul demonstrated which areas
this would affect and there was some discussion regarding the reasoning behind this
change. Commissioner Kennedy agreed that having a twenty -five foot setback or
something similar, from an R -10 zone made sense; there was general agreement
regarding this and Paul noted the suggested changes to the text. Commissioner
Cockburn cautioned against making setback requirements too restrictive for properties in
East Bremerton which tend to be narrow.
In discussing what should or should not be in an initial zoning package, Paul asked the
Commissioners how far one has to go now to protect the potential of a center or corridor
to ensure it will develop the way the Commissioners envision it developing with the
Comprehensive Plan; should it be kept to a minimum or should it be more extensive
which could involve greater public process? Paul used new residential uses and height
restrictions as examples and discussed the various ways those requirements can be
utilized to shape a center or corridor. The same question arose regarding signs and on-
site parking. Chris Hugo explained the history of the current grocery store parking
requirement: in a survey of other cities approximately the same size as Bremerton,
Bremerton had some of the most restrictive parking requirements, although those
restrictions were loosened somewhat with the development of Albertsons. Discussion
continued regarding parking requirements inside and outside centers.
Paul continued reading the changes made in the zoning package. There was some
discussion on what defines how large a block is — should it be an exact measurement or is
it a visual observation? Paul thought it could be defined in numbers for clarification.
Paul then read the sections that dealt with maximum lot coverage, maximum
development coverage, and building heights in Centers; there was additional discussion
amongst the Commissioners on these subjects. Chris reminded everyone of the potential
of leaving the definitions so broad as to invite a possible development that could thwart
the vision of the Center concept and recommended the utilization of Conditional Use
Permits as a stop -gap measure. Paul suggested adding a clause that made reference to the
Director making interpretations during application. There was discussion about the
possibility of Centers developing at different times with the likelihood of some Centers
not developing for ten or fifteen years and potential problems that could arise from that
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kind of delay; possible solutions were also discussed. Commissioner Streissguth
questioned a proposed solution that might change how Chapter 22 reads, noting that
permitted uses are set forth pretty clearly and suggested using general language to explain
the minimum [heights] within the Centers but consideration could be given to greater
heights if it was allowed in the Comprehensive Plan. There was general discussion
regarding the height guidelines set forth by the proposed R -10 zoning as well as the
different boundaries of the various zones.
Concern was expressed regarding presenting the zoning package to the Council
expeditiously to ensure deadlines were met. It was proposed to send sections to Council
to prevent overwhelming the Council with too much information at one time. There was
some discussion on the most efficient way to have hearings as well as study sessions to
fully work out the specifics of the zoning package and still be able to hand it over to the
Council in a timely manner.
Paul asked about theaters in the Commercial Corridor and the discussion moved to the
placement of a multi - screen cineplex and where an appropriate site for that type of use
within the city limits of Bremerton would be. There was also conversation about
buildings over 10,000 square feet in general.
Outdoor recreational facilities were the next item discussed especially batting cages, go-
cart tracks, mini -golf, and other similar uses and if these uses would be appropriate in the
Commercial Corridor. Other subjects touched on were lighting, egress, buffering heights,
and what materials and /or combination of materials that could be used for buffering.
Matthew Keough, Growth Planner, directed the group to items that do not show up in
the Commercial Corridor list of permitted uses but probably should be. Dialogue ensued
regarding which uses should truly be in a commercial area and which should be in the R-
10 (residential) areas or Centers.
Setbacks for non - residential uses was the next item discussed which segued to parking
requirements; Paul read through the specifics for each and the group talked over different
scenarios for setbacks such as with pedestrian design; development bonuses were also
discussed. Chris cautioned against putting too much detail into the requirements to avoid
potential problems in the future. The discussion continued with the possibility of
development bonuses, as well as suggestions for "softening" the sidewalks with greenery
or other devices. The possibility of a residential area backing up to a commercial area
was talked about; a possible solution would be to require a view corridor to provide a
pedestrian connection between a residential area and a public right -of -way behind a
commercial strip.
The group moved on to guidelines for design standards. Commissioner Streissguth
suggested listing a minimum standard for windows; it was decided to strike item E and
modifications were made to item D. There was additional discussion regarding recessed
doors and entrances. Paul read directly from the chapter describing facades and window
heights and there was conversation about this topic.
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Paul asked the group how they would like to address the subject water view in the
Commercial Corridor; Paul thought that the idea was to have water views available to
motorists and pedestrians passing though the corridor. Dri Ralph, Environmental
Planner, questioned the appropriateness of having a discussion about the view corridor at
this time since it will be addressed in the Shoreline Master Program and Critical Area
Ordinance rewrites. After some dialogue, it was decided to "strike" this item at this time,
but set it aside for future discussion.
Street trees and forested areas were the next topics discussed with Westpark as a main
point of discussion.
Paul moved on to signs and read directly from the chapter, specifically noting the
exceptions. Chris felt that a new sign code will probably need to be implemented to
accommodate proposed changes. There was general discussion of sign dimensions and
what size would be appropriate. Concern was expressed regarding situations arising that
are similar to the current layout of the Wheaton Way area.
Paul then read the section concerning allowed residential uses within the commercial
areas. There was discussion about the density requirements and other specifics of the
residential aspect of this area.
Under Automobile Related Uses, Paul confirmed moving car washes to Conditional Uses
and asked for siting conditions; the group agreed they should be similar to conditions for
gas stations. Chris proposed changing the allowed square footage to 30,000. Paul also
asked about side yard and rear yard setbacks in the R -10 zone, and should that also apply
to more commercial areas as well? It was decided that a setback of 30 feet with a
landscaping buffer should be implemented [for commercial areas] to encourage
residential uses within 100 feet. It was restated that parking would not be allowed in
front of commercial buildings which prompted additional discussion of parking
requirements and situations such as drive - through establishments.
Development bonuses in the Wheaton Way Redevelopment Corridor mirrored those set
forth in the Commercial Corridor; Paul quickly read through several other subjects.
Chris suggested eliminating the density bonus. Paul asked if there were any more
similarity /differences between the two commercial areas; Chris said it was not so much
the difference in use as the difference in character.
Discussion of the proposed zoning package concluded and Commissioner Streissguth
closed this portion of the meeting.
VI. Business Meeting
A. Chairman's Report: Commissioner Streissguth reported that the previous week, City
Council had voted to approve the Comprehensive Plan.
B. Director's Report: Chris Hugo reported that a new Planning Commissioner, Lois
Hoell, had been confirmed by the City Council. Lois is the Director of Nursing at
Harrison Hospital. Also, another planner has been approved to join the Department of
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Community Development staff. This person will primarily be used as an annexation
planner.
Two goals that the Mayor has set for Chris for 2005 are to work on the marina expansion
and to draft a letter to Kitsap County Commissioners explaining the City's position in
reference to growth, annexations, and Urban Growth Areas.
C. Old Business: Commissioner Friedberg -Nerf asked about some kind of recognition to
Scott Buckingham for his service to the Planning Commission. A luncheon was
suggested. This topic will be continued at a future meeting.
D. New Business: Election of Officers for the remainder of 2004: Commissioner
Kennedy nominated Linda Streissguth as the Chair and Clarence Nelson as the Vice -
Chair. Commissioner Friedberg -Nerf seconded the nomination. Called for a vote: all
were in favor of electing those nominated.
VII. Adjournment
Meeting was adjourned at 9:12 p.m. The next Regular Meeting is scheduled for December 21,
2004.
Respectfully submitted by:
Executive Secretary
Approved by:
Linda Streissguth, Chair
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