HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/21/2003 MINUTESMinutes for
Planning Commission Meeting
October 21, 2003
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Commissioner Kennedy at 5:30 p.m. Commissioner
Kennedy asked staff to introduce the new commissioner.
II. Roll Call
Those present were: Commissioner Kosusko, Commissioner Nelson, Commissioner Streissguth,
Commissioner Wood and Commissioner Kennedy. Quorum certified. [Commissioner Cockburn
arrived later in the meeting.]
III. Approval of Agenda
Commissioner Kennedy introduced the agenda. A motion was made by Commissioner
Kosusko and seconded by Commissioner Wood to approve the agenda as written. Called
for a vote: Kosusko: yes; Nelson: yes; Streissguth: yes; Wood: yes; and Kennedy: yes. Agenda
approved as written.
IV. Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the Regular Meeting held on September 16, 2003, were presented for approval by
Commissioner Kennedy. A motion was made by Commissioner Nelson and seconded by
Commissioner Kosusko to approve the minutes as written. Called for a vote: Kosusko: yes;
Nelson: yes; Streissguth: yes; Wood: abstained; and Kennedy; yes. Minutes approved as written.
V. Public Meeting
Commissioner Kennedy moved directly to the call to the public portion.
A. Call to the Public (public comments on any item not on tonight's agenda). She
addressed the group and asked if there was anyone with comments. Seeing none, she
closed this portion of the meeting.
B. Public Meeting
Public Hearing: None.
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2. Workshops:
a. BP03 00178 — Proposed zoning text amendment to BMC 21.02.152 to revise
the parking requirements for redeveloping properties in the DC and DW
zones. Commissioner Kennedy introduced the item and turned the floor
over to staff, Chris Hugo, DCD Director. [Commentary notes are enclosed in
brackets.]
Chris said that this addressing an issue that was considered but not anticipated
when the new downtown zoning was implemented in late 2002. It relates to
installing a new parking requirement for downtown development that did not
exist in the prior DC zone. He referred to the map as he described the new
Downtown Core (DC) and the Downtown Waterfront (DW) zones. Under
Alternative B of the draft ordinance these two zones will have no parking
requirement for rehabilitation of existing buildings. If there are changes in
gross floor space or new construction, there will be parking requirements.
Chris explained that both alternatives were trying to accomplish the same
thing. However, Alternative A is an attempt to restructure the format of that
portion of the zoning code. He said that Alternative B makes the most simple
change.
Commissioner Kosusko said that he had compared the two and that he
noticed a difference in the language.
As the Director, Chris said that he was not submitting Alternative A because
the task was only to deal with the parking issues. And if there are other areas
of clarity, it needs to be brought up separately. The intent is to relieve the
rehabilitation of existing buildings from a requirement of adding parking,
except if they enlarge, extend, or structurally alter the building for an increase
in the gross floor area. There is also the issue of residential uses not located
on the street level. Chris said that he was not clear on this issue. A short
discussion of this issued followed.
Chris then referred to the map to illustrate where the affected zones are
located. Chris said that a good example would be the old game building on
the SE corner of 4"' and Pacific, which is vacant right now — if they wanted to
rehab that into a restaurant. If we applied the parking standards in the code to
that it might produce a requirement for 50 parking stalls. Where do you get
50 parking stalls downtown in today's market?
He explained that when he discussed this issue with the Mayor, he voiced
cautions about the long term affects of this. If you don't supply parking
downtown and commuters /down -town workers are still primarily filling up
whatever capacity we have. This will hamper other people who come
downtown to support the new business we are trying to attract. It is
acknowledge that this is something that will help us get some rehabilitation
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projects started. Over the next 3 -5 years, we need to have a downtown
parking strategy that is much more complete, i.e. investments in public
structures.
Part of the new zoning code provisions for downtown is that you cannot have
a surface parking lot in these two zones (Downtown Core and Downtown
Waterfront) unless it is associated with a primary use. So if you can buy a
building and there is a lot next door - you buy it also and that lot can stay. Or,
you could buy an adjacent building and knock it down to create a parking lot,
provided that lot is associated with the primary building (restaurant or
business). You cannot come in as a speculative developer and knock down
an existing building and sit on it and use it as a commercial parking lot until
someone pays enough for a sale. This behavior caused a lot of `holes' in the
fabric of downtown. This is the reason for the prohibition in the code.
Commissioner Streissguth asked if new ownership of a building would
trigger the new requirements. Chris said that the trigger would be taking the
building down to the ground and developing brand new on the site. This
sparked discussion of specific examples.
Chris spoke about the proposal from Kitsap Federal Credit Union on 2 nd and
Pacific, which has underground parking. His response to that proposal was
that we should at least get the columns supporting that building up high
enough so that there is enough clear space. Then in the future we could come
back and reclaim that space as retail.
Commissioner Kosusko asked if the regulations required 50 percent of the
street front to be retail. Chris said that was the requirement when it went
through the Commission, but as adopted it did not because of this very issue.
There was a short discussion of the language in the draft, specifically D. 9.
Chris explained that at the time the draft was done it was produced by the
City's consultant, Mark Hinshaw before he even came to Bremerton. It was
processed through as the citizen's committee presented it, with very few
changes on our part.
Chris then explained the protocol. He said that notice has been sent to CTED
because anything that we do in the way of land use regulations in the City has
to go through the State for a 60 -day review and comment. This was sent to
them about a week ago, so that 60 -day review and comment period started
when our letter was sent out. This means that the City Council cannot act on
this until that 60 days is up. So, today during this workshop is the time to
raise questions and get the clarification. Then next month at the regular
meeting we would hold a hearing — if you agree tonight to a hearing. Then it
would go to the Council with your recommendations for change etc. The
Council would hear it — all of that would take about 1 -2 months. Then 2 -4
weeks to get on the Council's agenda. At that time we would be close to the
end of the 60 days.
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Commissioner Kennedy asked for clarification. She wanted to know if the
only part that has been changed is Section F (which should be Section E, due
to a numbering error). There was a short discussion of specifics in the draft,
which included landscaping and the number and condition of existing
buildings. The group concluded that projects to rehabilitate buildings in these
two zones should be an exemption from off - street parking but not landscaping
requirements.
Commissioner Kennedy stated for the record that Commissioner Cockburn
has arrived since the role call.
Chris read directly from the draft, "...the building or structure shall be
exempt from off - street parking and landscaping requirements." He explained
that the way staff would read that is — there would be no landscaping required
on any part of the site including an adjacent parking lot. So, if there wasn't
any street trees in front of the building there still wouldn't be. Chris asked the
group if that is what they wanted. The consensus of the Commission is that
they would not prefer it this way. They want landscaping. Chris asked for
further clarification regarding landscaping requirements, street frontage on
existing buildings and planters, etc. There was a short discussion with
suggested language from the Commission.
Commissioner Cockburn asked why it is so important that residential use
not be located on the street level. There was a short discussion among the
group to understand this issue. The Commission directed staff to find the
reason for this limitation.
Commissioner Kosusko asked that if people are exempted from parking
requirements, should we ask for a narrative of their parking plan of how they
plan to provide parking for their use? There was a short discussion of this
idea. Chris suggested that we are trying to get away from this because it
comes across as too arbitrary. He said that there is a mid -term discussion
topic /goal that we need to have an overall strategy for parking downtown to
support new development and support new business downtown. Commuters
are putting huge pressure on the current available resources.
Chris stated that the City is going to have to step up and be the first player.
The City parking Garage (4 and Washington) is going to be almost entirely
filled with the office workers by the time we move into the new Government
Building. The majority of City employees, commuters, and other occupants
of the Government Building — many issues will surface very quickly. He said
that the City will have to be proactive to solve this problem. He talked about
off -site solutions like shuttles, partnership with private developers, etc. Chris
even mentioned the unknown benefits of the Navy garage, evening and
weekend parking.
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The consensus of the Commission was to return this draft (Alternative B) to
the staff and put it on the agenda for the next regularly scheduled meeting —
November 28, 2003.
b. BP03 00189 — Proposed zoning text amendment to BMC 21.02.150 to add
criteria for the Director's classification of uses not listed in Figures 120 and
140.
Chris introduced the ordinance to address a soft area of the zoning code. He
said that we primarily review the uses permitted in each zone by a list that is a
matrix or table in the zoning code. He described the table. Then, he
explained, there is another provision in the code that just says that the
Planning Director can take one of two approaches:
1. He /she can find that a proposed use is similar to an existing use
and say that it is subject to the same zoning and processing
requirements as that listed use.
2. He /she can say that it needs to go through the Special Use Permit
process and go to the Hearing Examiner.
Chris said that the second option (discretion of the Director) seems to be too
undisciplined. The City Council questioned the vagueness of the Director's
authority. The City Attorney and Chris agreed that it does seem to be way too
much discretion for the Director.
He then read directly from the draft, "...any land use that is NOT listed in
Figure 140 shall be considered an Unlisted Use. If the Unlisted Use is clearly
similar to a use that is listed in Figure 120 or Figure 140, the Director may
make a written administrative determination as to which zone(s) and through
which approval process the Unlisted Use may be permitted." Chris explained
that set us a new use "Unlisted Use." He said that we need to get away from
that.
He then read the new language which mentions unlisted uses (not capitalized),
and redefines the Director's duty to look at that use and classify it, if possible,
according to the matrix by looking at these criteria of classification. He read
directly from the draft and explained by using examples of how this would be
done.
Chris explained that the City Council is looking for this draft ordinance
because it gives them some assurance of how the Director's duties will
performed. He assured the Council that these are some of the kinds of things
that we do every day at the zoning counter. He gave several examples.
Basically, he said that staff has tried to put the same thinking discipline of
comparability that we use on a daily basis into the code. In closing, Chris said
that this makes the Director's role in the administration of the code more
formal and more clear to people. They know what to expect, no matter who
the staff is.
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Commissioner Kennedy asked if there were any questions from the
Commission. There was none. She then asked for consensus that this should
be on the agenda for the next regularly scheduled Planning Commission
meeting, November 18, 2003. Consensus was given.
c. Comprehensive Plan — roundtable workshop to discuss the City Services
Element of the 2003 Comprehensive Plan update.
[At this point in the meeting Commissioner Kennedy diverted to the Chair's
Report and then returned to this point in the agenda after a lengthy discussion
about correspondence from Councilman Shepherd. See below.]
Commissioner Kennedy then stated that the commission would be moving to
the back of the room to do a round -table workshop discussion regarding the
City Services where there will be a separate taping of the discussion.
VI. BUSINESS MEETING
A. Chair Report — Commissioner Kennedy.
1. Letter from Councilman Shepherd Commissioner Kennedy read directly from the
letter regarding the first reading of a proposed ordinance relating to the city's
community renewal program which happened on October 8, 2003. The ordinance
was approved. It reaffirms and expands blighted areas in downtown Bremerton and
designates new areas of blight in Westpark and Anderson Cove. Councilman
Shepherd said that he had requested minutes and recommendations from the
Planning Commission as part of the discussion. He then asked if the Planning
Commission feels comfortable with this and has the commission had a public
consideration of this approach. She then turned the floor over to staff.
Chris said that the Commission should be aware of the strategy for Westpark since
that has come before them. Most recently was the strategy to use the Housing
Cooperation Act and Community Renewal Act in concert to develop a way to put
an anticipated Comprehensive Plan designation in place for the Westpark project
and proceed for accessing grant funds, investment funds, and tax credits. In that
process, the discussion has expanded to look at using the Community Renewal Act
in the Anderson Cove neighborhood and part of downtown. He referred to the map
and said that part of downtown is a project area and Community Renewal is being
applied there. That is how we are using the Housing Authority's capacity to act as
the City's redevelopment agent.
The purpose of the proposed ordinance is to expand that designation over to cover
the other area [referring to the map] so we can continue to use the Housing
Authority as the agent to do other things in that area if the City Council chooses.
This would create the ability to have the Housing Authority act on the City's behalf.
It does not give the Housing Authority any sanction for any specific activity. He
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then gave several examples to help demonstrate what he meant. He said that he
doesn't recall that this was ever backed by the Commission.
Commissioner Kennedy said that the only thing that was ever brought to the
Commission was the actual workshop on September 16, 2003. She said it was her
understanding that this was nothing that the Planning Commission had any affect
on. They wanted us to be made aware of it. But it was her opinion that it involved
financial issues, etc., and was out of the responsibility area of the Planning
Commission.
Chris concurred with her and stated that it was deliberately not brought to the
Commission as a Comprehensive Plan amendment because it would have violated
State law. It was brought for information so that if there was something the
commission didn't think was right, it could be dealt with. There was a discussion
regarding how to respond to Councilman Shepherd's question.
Commission Streissguth stated that she mentioned that at the last meeting. She
said Mike Shepherd's concerns are outlining a broader application that she was
asking about and the consistency with the Comprehensive Plan process
clarification. It was her understanding that it would take something extreme for
Council to exercise it's authority without violating the public trust. She said that
during the presentation, she understood it to be more than Westpark, it included the
downtown core and had a broader reach. What she was struggling with is the
application and when City Council would exercise the authority. It appears that
blight areas are included and can proceed without having a Comprehensive Plan in
place which directs where the development activity should occur.
Chris said that the zoning code details what can be done downtown. It is a very
traditional zoning type of implementation. It doesn't give you the same kind of
predictability about the character and overall functionality of downtown when you
do it on that level. So, on a project -by- project level, if you build according to these
rules you will get a good downtown. And if you use the City's authority to develop
through the Housing Authority then whatever you do following those rules you get
something that maybe inappropriate. He used several examples to demonstrate
what he was talking about.
Commissioner Streissguth stated that the presentation on September 16"' about
Westpark — she understood the need for the funding to go through. She said that the
process appeared to be good for that application. She was not clear on how that
process applies to the Anderson Cove area and the downtown redevelopment core.
Chris said that the Westpark conceptual plan is not much different than the
Calthorpe Illustrious Plan. It doesn't have everything tied down. It simply details
where the commercial and residential components are and supporting attachments
which speaks to density parameters. However, it is no more explicit than the
Calthorpe Plan. He used several more examples to explain his point. He was
leaving the meeting to speak to the City Council.
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Commissioner Wood asked if Councilman Shepherd would be getting these
minutes, and if he could get them before they are approved by this Commission.
Commissioner Kennedy said no. Commissioner Wood asked for clarification on
the lag time between approved minutes and the City Council getting the minutes.
Commissioner Kennedy explained that the issue [Councilman Shepherd's memo]
had already been approved. She said that the bottom line as she understood it, is
that we don't have any authority to address these kinds of issues because they deal
with laws and legislative things. Only the Council has that authority.
Commissioner Wood said that it sounds like we [Planning Commission] needs to
have re- communication as to what our role is and how we help the Council. She
gets the impression that Councilman Shepherd was more concerned about the
downtown Bremerton part rather than the Westpark part, specifically a 6 -plex
cinema behind the Admiral Theater. Clarification would be good.
Commissioner Kennedy said her understanding was that by the time these projects
come to the point of having a building permit, we will have all the new GMA
[development standards /Comprehensive Plan and new zoning requirements, etc.] in
place, which will provide structured guidelines. This prompted a short discussion
of the number of projects and the speed of which they are being developed. Also
discussed was the role of the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Kosusko stated that all this gets to the core of what we [Planning
Commission] do. Are we doing what we what we're told we are supposed to be
doing? Or are we being proactive and taking a role? He said that frankly we are
losing a great planning director and Paul is wonderful and maybe he will stay or
maybe we will get someone else who is wonderful. But we are losing a great,
proactive voice for planning and maybe there is nobody left after he is gone —
maybe it is us [Planning Commission]. How much do we want to give away. He
wondered if the commission just wants to say, "Well, that is not in our realm, so
that's okay. We didn't have to hear it." [... speaking of the memo from
Councilman Shepherd.] Or do we want to say that we want to be involved in
everything that has to do with planning at least in an advisory way. He said that he
wasn't sure what the commission's legal role is but he thinks they should be doing
more, not less.
Commissioner Kennedy suggested an executive session to allow the commission
to sit around a table and have some time to decide what the role should be and
assert that to the Council. This prompted another discussion about the frustration of
what the role is and how to get clarification while addressing the responsibility to
the community and the Comprehensive Plan update process.
Commissioner Wood mentioned that some time ago Commissioner Buckingham,
as Vice Chair had discussed making regular presentations at City Council during
the Wednesday night meetings to update them and create more communication
between the two bodies. Maybe that could be revived and she thinks he wants to
take that on.
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Commissioner Nelson concurred. He said that the letter from Councilman
Shepherd, no disrespect, but he understood that Shepherd was a bit of a lone voice
and it appears as though the Planning Commission is being approached with this
issue after the fact.
Mitchelle Honore, DCD Office Assistant Sr., made a point of clarification. She
stated that Commissioner Buckingham has discussed wanting to fill the role of
liaison between the Commission and the City Council. She had been routing the
City Council planning tools so that Commissioner Buckingham could decide which
meetings to attend. This has been going on for the last 2 -3 months in case there was
something being discussed by the City Council that the Planning Commission
should have known about or wanted to comment on. This schedule is updated from
the Treasurer's Office on a bi- weekly basis. Mitchelle informed the commission
that her and Commissioner Buckingham were working closely on this to ensure that
the commission is aware of what the Council is discussing.
Paul stated that the by -laws call for either an annual or semi - annual meeting with
the City Council to discuss roles. He said that as far as he knows, this has not been
done. He suggested that this might be something to consider. Also, one of you
mentioned about sitting down and discussing and strategizing about what your role
should be — this might be done before you sit down with the Council.
Paul also suggested that if this does sound like something they want to do, the
meeting should be advertised if a quorum meets. He said that it could be done as a
workshop at a regular meeting or as a special meeting, but should be noticed. After
a short discussion of the intent of such a meeting, Paul suggested that staff might be
directed to review the by -laws and come back with the accurate information about
the annual or semi- annual meeting between the Planning Commission and the City
Council. He also informed the group that this time of year it would be difficult to
get on the agenda with a face -to -face meeting with the Council.
Mitchelle had another comment for the Chair. She stated that she had discussed
with legal staff about reviewing the commission by -laws. Since the City now has a
Hearing Examiner there is some language that may need revising. She invited the
commission to review the by -laws and send comments or suggestions to her and she
would get them to the legal staff. There was a short discussion about this and
Mitchelle invited the group to let her know if they needed a copy of the by -laws.
Commissioner Kennedy asked if there were any suggestions from the commission
about how to answer Councilman Shepherd's memo.
Commissioner Streissguth stated that it appears to be a two -fold question. The
answer to the second part of the question is — no, we have not had a public process
regarding this information. The answer to the first part of the questions.... It
doesn't appear that we are all comfortable with this. There was another discussion
about the commission's responsibility.
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The consensus of the group was that it was informational only and that there was an
informal recommendation regarding exempting Westpark from the Comprehensive
Plan process. Also, the communication should inform the Council that the
commission is revisiting it's function and by -laws. Commissioner Kennedy said
that she would draft a letter to the City Council and thanked the commission for
their input.
B. Director Report: Chris Hugo.
C. Old Business: None.
C. New Business: None.
VII. Adjournment
Meeting was adjourned at 8:35 p.m. The next regular meeting is scheduled for December 16,
2003.
Respectfully submitted by:
Executive Secretary
Approved by:
Jessica Kennedy, Chairman
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