HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/15/2003 MINUTESMinutes of
Planning Commission Meeting
July 15, 2003
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Commissioner Kennedy at 5:32 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Those present were: Commissioner Cockburn, Commissioner Nelson, Commissioner Wood, and
Commissioner Kennedy. Quorum certified.
III. Approval of Agenda
Commissioner Kennedy introduced the agenda. A motion was made by Commissioner Nelson
and seconded by Commissioner Wood to approve the agenda as written. Called for a vote:
Cockburn: yes; Nelson: yes; Wood: yes; and Kennedy: yes. Agenda approved as written.
IV. Approval of Minutes
The Regular Meeting of June 17, 2003, minutes were presented for approval by Commissioner
Kennedy. A motion was made by Commissioner Nelson and seconded by Commissioner Wood
to approve the minutes as written. Called for a vote: Cockburn: abstained; Nelson: yes; Wood: yes
and Kennedy; yes. Minutes approved as written.
V. Public Meeting
Commissioner Kennedy moved directly to the call to the public portion.
A. Call to the Public (public comments on any item not on tonight's agenda). Seeing no
comments from the public, Commissioner Kennedy closed this portion of the meeting and
moved onto the public meeting portion.
B. Public Meeting
1. Public Hearing: [Commentary notes are enclosed in brackets.]
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a. PL03 -0018 — Continued. An ordinance amending Section 21.02.230 and Section
17.04.060(e) of Bremerton Municipal Code relating to fence height regulations and
permit requirements. Commissioner Kennedy introduced this item and turned the
meeting over to staff, Mr. Hugo.
Mr. Hugo stated that this was presented to the commission at the last regular
meeting. It was continued because we hadn't completed the SEPA comment period
yet. It concluded two days after the last meeting. That comment period has now
been concluded and a Determination of Non - significance has been issued. We have
also run through the 60 -day agency review period stipulated by state law for state
agency comment. It is, therefore, timely for the commission to take action on this
item.
He noted from the minutes that there was commission consensus to limit the height
of all fences in the front yard setback to three feet, regardless of the type of fence
material. This is referenced in provision 21.02.230(a)(1)(ii), which currently reads,
"Maximum height within front yard setback area shall be three feet, except in
open mesh cyclone type fence may not exceed a height of 42 inches."
When presented for public hearing the staff had proposed the cyclone type fence be
allowed up to 48 inches. After the commission's discussion there was a suggestion
that all fences should be limited to the same three foot height limit in the front yard.
That is where the staff report stands at this time.
Commissioner Kennedy opened the public hearing portion for this time. She
explained the procedure of public comment. Seeing no public comment, she closed
the public comment portion and opened the floor for comments and questions from
the Commission.
Commissioner Wood stated that she thinks the three foot [limitation] across the
board seems to be more appropriate.
A motion was made by Commissioner Cockburn and seconded by
Commissioner Nelson to recommend that PL03 -0018 as amended
[21.02.230(a)1(iii) limiting fence heights in the front yard setback area to three
feet regardless of fence material] for adoption to the City Council. Called for a
vote: Cockburn: yes; Nelson: yes; Wood: yes and Kennedy: yes. Motion carries.
b. Pursuant to State of Washington Growth Management Act, as detailed in the Revised
Code of Washington (RCW), Section 36.70A.035. The public hearings before the
Planning Commission and later, before the City Council, provide an explicit
opportunity for public review and comment, regarding potential revisions to the city's
comprehensive plan.
Commission Kennedy then reviewed the process of the public hearing. She
explained that the staff report would be first, then there will be an opportunity for
public comment — limited to three minutes, and that written testimony can be accepted
also. She then noted for the record, that Commissioner Buckingham had arrived.
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There was a question (point of order) from the public [William Palmer] regarding
why there is a time limit when there are so few people present. Commissioner
Kennedy replied that she wanted to set some basic guide rules since there is a
proposal for a series of public meetings. She said the guidelines should be consistent.
She also added that if three minutes was not sufficient for comment that written
comment could be submitted. She then introduced Mr. Rogerson.
Mr. Rogerson stated the staff report by reviewing the proposed schedule for public
hearings. The schedule includes three additional meetings as follows:
1. Tonight (7/15/2003) — Introduction and Land Use Element
2. July 29, 2003 — Community Character Element, Environment Element,
and the Housing Element.
3. August 12, 2003 — Economic Development Element, City Services
Element, and the Transportation Element.
4. August 26, 2003 — Summarize and recap discussions of all hearings,
and land use alternatives.
There was consensus among the commission members that the schedule looked good.
Commissioner Nelson asked if this was enough. Mr. Rogerson answered that there
could be a fifth meeting if required. There was then a short discussion about making
the schedule formal. The consensus was to leave it informal.
Commissioner Kennedy verified with Mr. Rogerson that public comment will not be
limited to the element being discussed at the meeting. People will be able to comment
on any portion of the Comprehensive Plan during any of the meetings. Mr. Rogerson
agreed and stated that the format would be to complete the staff report for the current
element and then take public testimony and commission discussion.
There was another discussion about making the schedule formal and the consensus
was to keep the schedule informal to allow flexibility. That discussion also included
notice requirements and promotion of the schedule. All the meetings will be scheduled
to begin at 5:30 pm.
Mr. Rogerson then presented the staff report. He read directly from his written staff
report. He covered the Introduction Section — some GMA basics and population
projections; Land Use Element— Land use vision goals and policies, needed land and
availability of land, centers concept and an introduction to the three land use scenario
maps. The statutory deadline is to complete the Comprehensive Plan by December 1,
2004, which includes development regulations that implement the plan. The public
perception is that the plan be completed by the end of summer.
Mr. Hugo spoke to the group regarding the urban growth area. He directed the group
to look at the map as he spoke. His discussion included information and historical
background; definition of Urban Growth Areas; unincorporated areas; and urban
growth area policies.
Mr. Rogerson concluded the staff report by saying that staff recommends that this be
the end of session one and that it be continued. He then asked if there were questions.
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Commissioner Kennedy commented that descriptions for the three centers should be
entered into the record. Mr. Rogerson referred the group to the land use scenario
maps. Referring to Scenarios #2 and #3, he said that there are three types of centers:
District Center (large mixed use center which serves multiple neighborhoods) [Upper
Wheaton Way, Lower Wheaton, and Charleston]; Neighborhood Center (smaller scale
center which serves one neighborhood) [Manette, perry Avenue Mall, corner of Pine
& Sylvan, and Hadden Park]; and Downtown Center, as designated by the Kitsap
Regional Council as the Metropolitan Center for Kitsap County. There are also two
Employment Centers [Pope & Talbot property and Port Blakely property], which are
both mixed -use environments.
Commissioner Buckingham asked about a Kitsap Lake Center being a future center.
Mr. Rogerson answered by saying that currently there is no population or
employment base assigned to Kitsap Lake. Because there is no infrastructure the
potential for that location to develop as a center during the first 20 year planning
period is very low. However, it will be referred to in the plan, as a future center.
Commissioner Cockburn asked a question about LU13 -A and LU13 -13. He said that
it seems to be alternatives #2 and #3. Mr. Rogerson paraphrased Land Use Goal
LU13 by saying that we should remove or revise existing land use designations in a
way that supports the "centers" concept. There are a couple of policies that speaks to
how this is done. In one case, you remove or re- designate vacant multi - family
designations that don't support centers. In the other case, you re- designate to `single -
family' all multi - family designations outside of centers. He said that Commissioner
Cockburn was questioning that if one of these alternatives (LU13 -A and LU13 -B) is
adopted, doesn't one of them have to go away? The answer is yes. There was a short
discussion of when this choice would be made.
Commissioner Kennedy asked if the commission had any further questions for the
staff. Seeing none, she closed the commission comment period and opened the public
comment period and explained how the public comment process works.
William M. Plamer, licensed planning consultant. He said he was representing two
clients, Mr. Paul McConkie and Mr. Whitcom. He referred to the map and showed
where Mr. McConkie's property is located. He then stated that Mr. Whitcom owns the
Motel 8 site near the freeway.
He commented on a proint of process — A long abiding criticism of planning
commission, board of county commissioners, and others. Citizens and professionals
come before bodies like this to make comments. Virtually never get any feedback on
the comments that are presented. He started that as an urban planning professional he
thinks this is a travesty. He also objected to the 3- minute limit, especially when the
crowd is small.
His question regarding population — In 1995, the City of Bremerton received an
allocation from Kitsap County Regional Coordinating Council for 20,000 people. A
portion of that 20,000 was allocated to Port Blakely (3,000). [He could not remember
the exact number.] According to your population figures right now — you are saying
that you need 13,000 more to support that. It still comes up 4,000 short. What is
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happening to the additional population? Is it being given back to KRCC to re-
allocate?
His questions about Mr. McConkie — There is an industrial center in walkable distance
from neighborhoods. You cannot walk to west Bremerton from the downtown area.
But you can walk to this [industrial center]. There is nothing in the plan to address
that center — pro or con. Mr. McConkie is definitely interested in an expansion of
about eight acres in that area. Mr. Palmer said that he would be submitting something
in writing regarding the expansion.
He went on to say that there were several areas that of urban growth the city are
ignoring. He referred to the map and mentioned Erlands Point. He also said that in his
estimation you [the city] also need an inter -local agreement between the city and the
county regarding how to address urban growth in the text of your comprehensive plan.
He then said he was really glad to see that staff had included urban growth in the plan
because that was one of his criticisms of the plan, that it didn't address urban growth
areas.
Commission Kennedy asked if there were any further public comment. Seeing
none, she closed the public comment section and continued the hearing to July 29,
2003. She said that at the time we will reopen the hearing. She reminded the public
that we will be hearing testimony on any element of the plan at any one of the
hearings.
There was a question from the floor regarding the availability of the elements prior to
the public hearings. Mr. Rogerson answered by saying that all the elements are
available now. He stated that the longer the wait, the better condition [more thorough
and closer to the final version] it will be when picked up. If is constantly being
revised and is a work in progress.
Mr. Hugo stated that since some of the elements are still being revised, the final
version will be prepared before the hearing closes at the end of August. We will have
one complete, firm version before then and in enough time to allow adequate
opportunity for public review of the whole document. There will then be multiple
hearings before the City Council on that complete document.
Mr. Rogerson then stated that the document is available at several public venues such
as public libraries. The public can call our office to find out where to locate the
nearest copy. There is also a copy available at our office. They are in the form of 3-
ring binders that we will be revising and supplementing with improved versions of
each element as necessary.
Mr. Palmer asked if these copies included copies of the maps. Mr. Rogerson
answered by saying no, unfortunately we are still working to get the maps in a format
that can be distributed. So, the maps can only be observed in our office at this time.
Mr. Hugo wanted to make a statement about some of the public testimony. He stated
that during the hearings — when we get to the end of the hearing process, staff will try
to respond to public comments.
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For example — Mr. Palmer raised the matter of population. Mr. Hugo then presented
the following background on the topic: The approach that the region has taken to
population growth now is vastly different than the deliberations that occurred the early
through late 90's through the county and various other jurisdictions. The approach
that we have taken was first suggested by the states; change in how growth population
is given to counties. When Kitsap County first went through the business of GMA
planning in the early 1990's, the State Office of Financial Management gave the
county "a" number to plan for — for 20 years. Essentially, it was a pie to be cut up into
various size slices and allocated to the planning jurisdictions. In the mid- 1990's that
was challenged by a jurisdiction across the state. The state changed its method of
giving population to counties. Now, instead of a finite size pie (a number to cut up)
there is a broad range. The way the Kitsap Regional Coordinating Council process is
handling population is to have each planning jurisdiction come up with its desired
growth population based on community values and the capability of geography to
support urban growth and the ability of the jurisdiction to serve urban growth
affordably. That is what we are trying to do — to figure out how to best serve urban
growth affordably within the city and within the urban designated lands around the
city. This is a brand new way of looking at growth. We are right in the middle of the
range that the state has assigned to us.
Commissioner Kennedy stated that the public hearing on the comprehensive plan
update is continued until July 29, 2003, at 5:30 pm, in the City Council Chambers.
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2. Workshops:
a. None.
VI. BUSINESS MEETING
Chair Report: None.
Director Report: Chris Hugo.
CDBG Advisory Members — Mr. Hugo requested confirmation of the designation of a
Planning Commission member to participate on the Community Development Block
Grant (CDBG) committee. Commissioner Angela Wood had suggested that she might
volunteer for that. Commissioner Wood agreed to represent the Planning Commission.
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2. Resignation of Commissioner Din fg ield — Mr. Hugo informed the group that the
Mayor's office has received the resignation of Commissioner Dingfield. Based on the
fact that she had served for so long on the commission and the fact that she felt that now
that the Comprehensive Plan process was coming to an end that she would give up her
seat to someone else. The Mayor's office is currently looking for a replacement.
Old Business: None.
New Business: None.
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VII. Adjournment
Meeting was adjourned at 6:49 p.m. The next regular meeting is scheduled for August 19, 2003.
Respectfully submitted by:
Executive Secretary
Approved by:
Jessica Kennedy, Chairman
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