HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/15/2004 MINUTES
Minutes for
Planning Commission Meeting
June 15, 2004
I. Call to Order
Commissioner Buckingham
The meeting was called to order by at 5:34 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Those present were: Commissioner Cockburn, Commissioner Kennedy, Commissioner
Kosusko, Commissioner Streissguth, and Commissioner Buckingham. Quorum certified.
III. Approval of Agenda
A motion was made by Commissioner
Commissioner Buckingham introduced the agenda.
Kosusko and seconded by Commissioner Wood to approve the agenda as presented.
Called
for a vote: Cockburn: Yes; Kennedy: Yes; Kosusko: Yes; Streissguth: Yes; Buckingham:
Yes. The motion carried.
IV. Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the Special Meeting held on May 4, 2004, and the Regular Meeting held on May
A motion was made by
18, 2004, were presented for approval by Commissioner Buckingham.
Commissioner Kosusko and seconded by Commissioner Cockburn to approve the Special
Meeting Minutes of May 4, 2004 as presented.
Called for a vote: Cockburn: Yes; Kennedy:
Chris
Abstain; Kosusko: Yes; Streissguth: Yes; and Buckingham; Yes. The motion carried.
Hugo, Director ofCommunity Development
noted there was some confusion in the Director’s
Report in the May 18, 2004 meeting minutes regarding two separate County Land Use
applications. Chris asked for approval from the Commission to make editorial corrections to that
A motion was made by Commissioner Streissguth and seconded by Commissioner
report.
Kosusko to adopt the Meeting Minutes of May 18, 2004 with corrections made to the
Director’s Report by Chris Hugo.
Called for a vote: Cockburn: Yes; Kennedy: Abstain;
Kosusko: Yes; Streissguth: Yes; and Buckingham; Yes. The motion carried.
V. PUBLIC MEETING
A. Call To The Public:
(public comments on any item not on tonight’s agenda)
Susan Brown, (1333 E Hope):
“My concern is I’ve expressed at other times is the
public being able to get adequate information about what is going in the Planning
Department and the Planning Commission. I’m wondering if it would be possible to put
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on the website the packets that the Commissioners get before the meeting so we know
what the discussion is all about. I know the City Council does that; I was trying to
research that quickly this afternoon, I don’t know if they do it before or after the meeting,
come to think of it! If you could look into that, the feasibility of that, that would be very
helpful. Thank you.”
Chris Hugo
commented that the City Council does try to [post their information] before
the meeting, although sometimes, because the council meets every week, it is not always
possible. He assured Ms. Brown that this Commission will aspire to do the same.
Commissioner Buckingham
Seeing no more citizens wanting to make comments,
closed this portion of the meeting.
B. Public Hearing:
None
VI. Business Meeting
A.Chairman’s Report:
None.
B. Director’s Report:Chris Hugo
Althoughhad no formal report, he did speak about the
two items going through the County Land Use application process. There is some
confusion regarding these applications because Chris had received inconsistent responses
from County staff. Chris attempted to complete the Planning Commission’s instructions
from the previous meeting to prepare to bring the [two County Land Use applications]
before the City Council as formal agenda items. While compiling an information packet
for the council members, Chris noticed the County’s “NoticeofApplication for Site
Specific Re-zones” provided no information on the current zoning or the proposed
zoning, even though the application was for a re-zone; therefore, this should be
considered a defective notice because of the lack of information. To technically remedy
the situation you would have to take it back to the beginning. Chris confirmed his
assessment with Bremerton’s City Attorney and will be bringing this to the attention of
Chris’ counterpart at Kitsap County in a formal letter, informing the County that, by
standard practice, there is defective notice on all of their re-zone applications.
Regarding the application requesting a zoning change from Rural Restrictive to
Tourist/Commercial (Global Investments/Kitsap Transit), and in speaking with the
Director of Kitsap Transit, Chris discovered Kitsap Transit had no knowledge of any
application for a Tourist/Commercial [re-zone]. Chris spoke to the County about this
discrepancy and was told the application was from Global Investments only, so the notice
also misidentifies the applicant. Chris was not sure how this issue will be resolved, but
will continue giving input.
The second application submitted to the County by the Ron Ross family (Royal Valley,
LLC) and the George Minder family regarding a rezone [for the purpose of increasing the
allowable number of dwelling units per acre] may or may not be going forward,
depending on who you spoke to at the County, Chris reported. Chris does not believe the
application is going forward at this time, but there is still the issue of the [defective]
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notice and assured the Commission that, when the timing is appropriate, staff will give
input to the overall substantive issues of that major change in the Land Use and Urban
Growth Area. The two applications have not been presented to the City Council yet
because of the confusion that Chris has been experiencing with the process at the County.
CommissionerStreissguth
asked Chris for an update on two ordinances on the City
Chris
Council’s agenda: One on building heights and one on open space requirements.
reported that the ordinance on building heights is simply a mistake on [the Planning
Department’s] part. When the new downtown zoning regulations were processed and the
new DC and DW zones were created from the old BC zone, portions of the BC zone still
existed west of the new [DC and DW] zones, from Pacific Avenue to Warren Avenue.
There is a dividing line about a quarter of the way down the block west of Pacific, all the
th
way from the BTC up to 6 Street where the zoning boundary follows parcel lines.
When the zoning map was created, a base map of parcel lines was used; at the time the
height district map, which divided those two zones into three height districts, was created,
a different base map was used so it didn’t follow the same parcel lines. This error was
caught months later by a staff member of Rice Fergus Miller who noticed that the two
lines didn’t match up on the western boundary of the DC zone district. There was a “no-
man’s land” in there where there was no specific height regulation applied. That was
recognized as just an editorial or scrivener’s error, so the Council accepted that as a
housekeeping measure. That issue didn’t come to [the Planning Commission] because
there was nothing substantive to look at, just an error to correct.
The second agenda item had a longer history: In Chris’ first year at Bremerton he
recognized that in the landscape requirements there was a condition in larger sites that
imposed a 15% open space requirement in addition to screening landscaping, perimeter
landscaping, street landscaping or large parking lot landscaping on any development,
both residential and commercial, over an acre. At the time the issue seemed to be
primarily with the commercial use because the provisions said that the open space was
specifically for the benefit of the tenants and owners of the building. An example is the
NAPA Auto parts store off Kitsap Way; as a part of that site development they had to put
in some open space. If you go up there today you would see a bird feeder and a bench
that is for the benefit of the owner of the NAPA store or any tenant. That didn’t seem to
be a consistent requirement; most requirements in Bremerton’s codes can be tied directly
to mitigating some kind of impact; to moderate an environmental condition or to be
compatible with community aesthetic. This was first faced with the new Albertson’s
store [on Wheaton Way]; in this case the 15% could only be enjoyed by Joe Albertson
and the people that work in the store. That is when the Council amended that provision
and dropped the requirement from the code – amended it so essentially it said 15% but it
could include all of the other site landscaping which is usually close to 15%. The
residential requirement was not amended. Recently there had been a State Supreme
Court case very similar to Bremerton’s requirement and it rejected that kind of exaction
of open space as just a taking of property for no good reason. Bremerton’s attorneys
have determined that that provision in our code is unconstitutional; for that reason it was
CommissionerKosusko
taken directly to Council and presented for amendment. asked
Chris
if this would also apply to multi-family projects. responded that it would with the
requirements being met though language in a project review or in impact fees for parks or
large projects that create new demands. This is an issue that, the more you look into the
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practices, as a regulator there is a need to look at the relationship between an imposed
requirement and the basis for it; what is the demand impact that the regulation responds
to. If that close relationship can’t be found, you’re probably in dangerous waters.
CommissionerStreissguth
asked Chris if there was an update on a replacement for
Chris
Commissioner Wood. replied that it was his understanding the Mayor’s office had
received some applications and have scheduled interviews.
C. Old Business:CommissionerBuckingham
began discussions on the Planning
Commission’s Rules and Bylaws. Packets had been distributed to the Commissioners
prior to the meeting containing city and state information regarding Planning
Commissions, plus the service contract for the Hearing Examiner. Commissioner
Buckingham explained that the installation of the Hearing Examiner had changed to some
degree how the Planning Commission performs its duties; the Commission had been
quasi-judicial as well as legislative. With the addition of a Hearing Examiner this is no
longer true; now the Hearing Examiner conducts the hearings on variances to ordinances,
etc. This change makes it necessary for the Planning Commission to review their rules
Commissioner
and bylaws to ensure they are within their current scope of duties.
Kennedy
started with noting the need to delete §3, §4 and §5 from Ordinance 4069,
which refers to short plat regulations, special use, appellate hearings, etc. which the
CommissionerStreissguth
Hearing Examiner is now responsible for. commented that
since the ordinances most likely had been codified, the Commission should be looking at
the Bremerton Municipal Code, sections 2.12 and 2.13 for needed amendments, not the
original ordinance itself. Commissioner Streissguth felt that in 2.12.080, sub-section C,
Chris
which refers to short plat and long subdivision regulation, should be deleted.
disagreed, stating that reviewing and recommending short plat and long subdivision
regulations as well as the new zoning code are still legislative duties of the Planning
Commissioner
Commission; these are the regulations that implement policy.
Buckingham
noted that there were ordinances newer than Ordinance 4069 referenced in
Chris
the BMC that was not included in the information packets. responded, saying
amendments have been made since the ordinance that installs the Hearing Examiner
(#4778) and they have continued to clarify the parts of the BMC that relate to regulations
specifically, separating out items that relate to duties of the Commission, review
procedures for the Hearing Examiner and the regulations themselves, each in its own area
[of the BMC]. This process has been ongoing since Chris began at City of Bremerton.
Chris suggested comparing the Planning Commission bylaws with the legislative duties
and looking for inconsistencies. [Copies of the bylaws were made and distributed to the
Planning Commission at this time.]
During the time it took to make the copies, there was some discussion regarding funding
Chris
for Commission related expenses, such as attending a seminar or conference.
reminded the Commissioners that all funding for Planning Commission expenses goes
through the Department of Community Development and to simply submit a request to
Chris to add it to the budget as a line item.
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CommissionerKennedy
thought that one of the reasons for updating the bylaws was to
bring about more contact with the City Council. She wondered if that was an item that
should be included as a directive and, if the Vice-Chair was still considered to be the
person communicating with the City Council, perhaps adding some language saying the
Vice-Chair would supply the City Council with a report as requested or something along
CommissionerBuckingham
those lines to open up communication. agreed, suggesting
Chris
adding what the duties of the liaison to the City Council might be. gave an update
to the Commission on changes the City Council had already made such as the new
meeting schedule which eliminates the time conflict Chris had been experiencing. Also,
the council had divided itself into its own liaison assignments with City departments. At
this time, the liaison for Community Development is Wendy Priest who could also act as
a liaison for the Planning Commission. Chris suggested that the Vice-Chair attend
meetings Wendy Priest and Chris set up, depending on the topic of the meeting.
Everyone agreed that that type of two-way communication would be beneficial to the
CommissionerBuckingham
Commission. asked Commissioner Streissguth for
Commissioner
suggestions on how and when she would meet with the Council.
Streissguth
felt that the meetings should be issue based such as when the county-wide
planning policies that the Commission as a whole thought was a significant matter came
before them and Council needed to understand the Commission’s position on that issue.
As the Commission moves forward with the Comprehensive Plan, Commissioner
Streissguth anticipates spending a considerable amount of time talking about the public
hearings, responding to questions Council might have as they are going through their
education, etc. and would like to see meetings take place as the need arises rather than
have a set meeting schedule with formal reporting.
CommissionerBuckingham
brought the meeting back to the bylaws, specifically page
2, §C-3.b, Officers and Duties. After much discussion regarding the various levels of
detail and possible scenarios that may arise between the Council and the Commission, it
was decided to leave that section as it is.
CommissionerKennedy
In Section III, “Duties of the Commission”, noted that items
such as approval of land use applications requiring Commission approval, appeals, etc.
ChrisHugo
should be deleted because they are no longer duties of the Commission.
stated that, in his opinion, the entire paragraph should be rewritten and offered to present
a draft at the next meeting. His concerns were regarding the redundancy of the wording
and the fact that it is not pro-active, especially when dealing with issues related to the
Comprehensive Plan. All were in agreement on this item.
Commissioner Kennedy
In Section VII, “Conflict of Interest”, felt that entire section
should be stricken. There was some discussion arguing the need for keeping that clause,
Commissioner KennedyChris Hugo
but and both commented that the City attorney
had previously stated that there was no longer any possibility for there to be a conflict of
interest with the Planning Commission, but Chris would check with the City attorney
again to be sure. The Commissioners agreed to have Chris do this.
Commissioner Streissguth
asked for clarification regarding an item in the bylaws that
Chris
stated the Planning Commission meets on the third Thursday of each month.
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replied that it had been in “Rules and Procedures”, not the bylaws, but they should also
be included in the updating process.
Commissioner Kennedy
In Appendix A, §F-3 in “Public Hearings”, noted there is
Chris
another reference to conflict of interest that should also be deleted from the text.
commented that the majority of the information in Appendix A appears to be following
the format for quasi-judicial functions. There was also some confusion between the
terms “conflict of interest” and “appearance of fairness”. Chris suggested that the
Commissioners review Appendix A to see what parts continue to have merit and then
Commissioner
assign it to staff to give to the legal department for a redraft.
Buckingham
commented that, since some of the newer ordinances were missing from
the information packet, he would like to have staff compare the current Bylaws and Rules
and Procedures with the current ordinances and suggest changes to the Commission
Chris HugoA motion
based on that comparison. accepted this task on behalf of staff.
was made by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner Streissguth to
direct staff to submit a revised version of the Planning Commission’s Rules and
Bylaws that better reflect the current duties of the Planning Commission at the next
regular scheduled meeting
. Called for a vote: Cockburn: Yes; Kennedy: Yes;
Kosusko: Yes; Streissguth: Yes; Buckingham: Yes. The motion carried.
D. New Business:
None.
VII. Adjournment
Meeting was adjourned at 6:35 p.m. The next regular meeting is scheduled for July 20, 2004.
Respectfully submitted by:
_______________________________________
Executive Secretary
Approved by:
_______________________________________
B. Scott Buckingham, Chairman
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