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COUNCIL ~IEETING
NOVE~tBER 10, 1971
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Bremerton, l~ashington was held in the
Co,mc:il r',hambers, City Ilall at 9:30 A.M.P.S.T., Wednesday, November 10, 1971. Attending were:
~layor Jarstad (presiding), Connissioner Clark, Commissioner Schoneman, City Clerk Yeadon, Assis-
tant City Attorney Kamps, and members of the press and radio.
bleetin~ opened with Pledge of Allegiance and Invocation by Rev. Jolm Rupert, pastor of the First
Free b{ethodist Church.
51inures stOod approved as read.
IR:ARING - LILE-blAYFLOI~ER
bbtion by ~{ayor Jarstad and Comnissioner Clark to hold the hearing on rezone on the application
o~e-~layflower at this time. ~Iotion carried unanimously.
Clerk stated that he had advertised the hearing in the legal newspaper, had posted the property
and public places required by the Ordinance, and had sent a letter of notification of the hear-
~ng to property owners located within a 250 ft. radius of the property. Clerk then read the
Plarming Commission minutes of October 20, 1971, concerning the rezone, and a memo from the City
Engineer, stating his department has no objections to the proposed rezone, and a memo from the
[rater S/rperintendant stating that a water main would be installed to the rezone site if approved;
also read memo from Fire Department, which stated that an adequate supply of water would be nec-
essary for fire protection, and a memo from the Police Department, Traffic Division, approving
the proposed rezone.
Clerk stated the rezone application has como before the City Council based on Planning Con~nission
Resolution #220, which recon~ends the rezone be approved from R-1 to B-3, for a moving and storage
warehouse site.
Clerk read letter from J~es E. Skirving to the City Commissioners, dated November 9, 1971, request-
ing the rezone be modified or denied. The letter is available in the rezone file. Attached to the
letter was a copy of an application, from which Hr. Skirving wanted ~he commissioners to note the
impact which a rezone would have on the policies and standards of H.U.D. , a further attachment were
several pictures of two warehouse operations, Lile-Mayftower and Bekin, in the Westpark industrial
area. These pictures were submitted to show the accumulation of large boxes and various trucks wh~c~
surrounded these two operations.
~ayor Jarstad asked George Plescher, Planning Director, to give background data concerning tile
proposed rezone area. Mr. Plescher touched on the following subjects.
]) Land use: Described the general area, starting at K-Werner interchange. The proposed
rezone ~s on the City Limits line. One entire area around the rezone site is outside the City
and is rezoned R-7500, which is for single family units of 7,S00 square feet, and in some areas
of that zone duplexes are allowed, with restrictive square feet. On one side of the proposed
rezone property is the property owned by Mr. Skirving. The land use map which Mr. Plescher
used showed the dwelling units now located in the surrounding area.
2) Showed zoning as it is in the county, using a colored map; also, th~ map showed that
b~r. Sk~rving, who bas applied for Federal housing funds, has already had his' property rezoned
to R-2 and B-2. The B-2 is a service area for his project. In the nearby county area are some
locations allowed for mobile home sites.
3) ~r. Plescher, using thc comprehensive plan map, showed the industrial area at ~estpark
and also mentioned that some property at Westpark housing is apparently going to change due to
the freeway crossing through there, lle stated the City is literally out of industrial land;
tlmre is not enough within the City limits to allow for a free-land market; that his office made
a study ()f the entire City to find industrial land, and the final conclusion at the staff level
is that industrial should be extended trp IVerner Road, from the K-~erner interchange. There is
no real traffic in the City except near the Navy Yard. All the goods shipped in and out of the
City go by truck, and because of the straight line of Werner Road going into tile K-lVerner inter-
change, that it was the staff's idea to make each side of the road industrial land so there would
be direct access to the highway without going through a residential area. This had been discus-
sed jointly with the City Planning Commission and the County Planning Commission and even though
the area is outside of the City, this is the attitude of the City Planning Commission.
4) Not spot zoning - bit. Plescher stated this rezone would not be spot zoning because this
was to be an industrial area; this proposal to make this an industrial area is logical; it is
somethin!~ really needed.
5) l~rawings - Mr. Plescher showed and explained drawings showing the property and two lo-
cations wherein the warehouse might be located, also truck area, and office and visitor parking.
Mr. Plescher stated that next to the property is a dedicated right-of-way, with no street actuall)t
in as yet. The drawings showed a building proposed either on the front or on the back of the
property, and stated that the first warehouse built would be close to tqerner Road.
ConrMssioner Schoneman stated that Mr. Plescher had spoken of meeting ~tith others on adjusting
the Comprehensive Plan to allow comnercial development all along Iqerner Road, and asked whether
there is any planning taking place regarding home developments in the area; that new homes are
ail going in on the east side and that buildi¢g permits are very scarce on the west side, and
asked regarding developing of home sites, as to where elae planned developmonts are on the west
side, plats, etc.
(MINlrI'ES - CITY COUNCIL bfl~.l~'ING, NOVEAIBER 10, 1971, Cont. )
blr. Plescher stated the only one is that which Mr. Skirving is planning, and his office does
not have any study on this area otherwise residential.
Cor~nissioner Schoneman asked what is surrounding the proposed rezone, and Mr. Plescher stated,
it's all residential around the area. Mr. Plescher stated that there is a conflict wherein
the FIlA a few years ago would give support to a large area, even though it had to go through
an industrial area.
Conraissioner Schoneman questioned whether it was good planning to plan on both sides of the
road for commercial or whether the~e should be homes platted in on one side? lie conmented that
he has noticed children walking on lVerner Road, and that no buses run out there. Ile reiterated
his question of whether it was ~ood planning to provide a commercial area before a residential
home site?
Mr. Plescbcr com~nted that this City has less land zoned for manufacturing than any other city
of comparative size; that he would rather have a commercial area to K-Werner interchange than
go through a residential area.
Commissioner Schoneman suggested another area for conmercial development, which would be better
for industrial, and that is along where the new freeway is going through; Oyster Bay and Bayvicw
clear down to Sinclair Inlet where the state has taken out the homes. He commented further that
one thing he bas not gotten clear is that Indian llills has been in the making for two or three
years m~d Js quite acceptable for the use of the land, and now comes this request to put a
bnsiness fronting what would be some 200 to 300 units of residential development. This is at
the entrance to where what is the largest area of development.
bIr. Plcscher stated the planning people have looked at this land and suggested development, with l
land use restriction, and to drive through this area to reach the residential development would
be better than the other way around.
City Clerk asked where that rough road went to that circled behind this five acres, and what
were the trucks doing that were going in and out of that area?
Mr. SkJrving stated this was not a road, but it was a trail, and it was on his property and was
used by trucks hanling gravel from his property.
Mr. Plescher stated that in his conversations with the county, they talked about putting an in-
dustrial strip on beth sides of lVerner Rd., and there didn't seem to be any objections to this.
Commissioner Clark asked for clarification of a B-3 as opposed to industrial, which is being
referred to in this hearing.
Mr. Plcscher answered that it was essentially considered to be light industrial.
Commissioner Clark pointed out that we already have a business zone in the Skirving area.
~Ir. Plescher pointed out that this was just a service area for the houses only.
Co~missioner Scboneman conmented that this is strictly a shopping center.
Mayor Jarstad asked ~Ir. Plescher if the request of the Planning Commission was f~r the City
Council to approve of a rezone for a specific request for a warehouse, rather than wanting a
blanket zoning?
Mr. Plescher stated that that was correct; that the rezone would be for a warehouse.
Commissioner Clark commented that in the warehouse uses there are a variety of warehouses as
such.
Mr. Plescher stated that he believed it was the Planning Commission's intent to restrict to the
site plan.
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Conmissioner Clark commented again that he thought there was some difference between the broad
term "warehouse" and warehouse of furniture, etc.; that this is not the most objectionable type
of warehousing,, a~, compared, ~o warehousing in general.
~Ir. Plescher stated, this was right; that this kind of warehouse was not as objectionable as
machinery, for example.
Proponents - Wendell. Lile
Hr. Wendell l,~le, who stated he was of Lile-Mayflower Moving and Transfer Co., stated that his
case for rezone had been quite thoroughly presented to the Plarming Commission, and he believes
the people on the commission are quite well aware of his attempts to have various pieces of pro-
perty rezoned, and that he had made a great deal of effort to obtain property that could be re-
zoned so he could continue the payroll and his business presently operating in Bremerton. tie
said that he was st,re that Mr. Skirving has given the City Council some bad pictures, and that
they bare been operating out of bad facilities ever since the firm has been in Bremerton. Mr.
l,ile gave a recount of various locations M~ere the t~,ansfer company had been operating; all of
them with less square footage and less space than the business required, lie said that they
were now operating with about 2S00 square feet, as opposed to about 10,000 square feet which
MINIFDiS - CITY COI~qCIL MEETING, NOV].~MBER 10, 1971, Cont.)
they are now talking about, to be housed in anice structure which w0uld not be junk. He referred to
their Pine ,qt. operation in Tacoma, and stated there are six warehouses throughout the system, and
be is proud of their warehouses in other areas. He said they started in business in 1959, with a
small operation in Tacoma, and were asked by Mayflower to expand to Bremerton because they did a goo~
job; that Sexton-Clark sold out to Blackball, who had:their own moving and storage connection. He
stated further, that they didn't have a storage permit for Bremerton, so they could not pick up and
deliver in the City and they had to go to the Supreme Court of the State' of Washington to get this
permit. He said that over the years they have been good citizens as far as developing their busi-
ness, and therefore, he implored the City Council to give his application favorable consideration.
}4r. Lile stated he would like to ask several questions of b{r. Skirving. lb said that ~Ir. Skirvin?
is already operating trucks on lVerner Road, and one of his objections is to trucks, lie said he
dis not know blr. Skirving's plans, ,and they might have objections to his development; that he
believed Public l,aw 236 is for Federally subsidized housing, and that he is not asking the govern-
sent to subsidize bis business; that he wants to make an investment in Bremerton. ~ir. l,ile askcd
bow much land is involved with Skirving's B-2, is it five acres, or what?
blt. Lile passed out pictnres of his Tacoma operation and pictures of his equipment, lie said they
fully intend to have a pleasant facility, well landscaped; t}mt they won't have boxes and crates
all over the yard as they will have ample facilities.
Commissioner Schoneman remarked that on the proposed construction of the warehouse, as shoim by
the site plan, it was quite adjacent to the street, and asked if there was a reason for this
except for a short driveway?
~Ir. Lile answered that they }lave designed an alternate situation; that they would like to devel-
op the entire tract, and that they didn't know for sure if they wanted to build on the back.
Ideally. the ~.~ole tract should be devel .oped for ~mrehouses, but it is more than they need,
cause five acres is about three times as much as they really need. 1% think it is more desirable
to build on tbs front than to build the road all the way back.
Co~nissioner Schoneman stated that was not his question, but would it be necessary to be as close
to the road as shown on the plan, or can it be further back? Could there be a thirty or fifty
foot setback? Commissioner Schoneman asked several questions concerning how the trucks were ~oin~
to go off the road, where they were going to go off, where they were going to turn when they were
on the property, .and whether they would be backing in off the road?
~r. Lile pointed out on the site plan how the trucks would be coming in and where they would be
loading and parking, and said the loading operation could be screened.
Commissioner Schoneman stated that it would appear from the site plan that the building would he
fifteen to twenty feet from ~erner Rd., and Mr. Lile stated t]mt the building could be moved back
and there would be screening, and showed where employees would park their cars.
Commissioner Clark stated the site plan showed a design for two warehouses, one in the front and
one in the back. ~ir. Lile answered that only one of the two was planned.
bir. I,ile's engineer spoke in answer to Commissioner's question about setback, and stated that it
might be preferable for the City and Mr. Lile to agree to a site plan like in Tacoma, where per-
sonnel and customers park in front of the building for a buffer zone, and the trucks could be
operating at the back of the building. This would be better for weather protection of the doors,
etc. ~e engineer stated that he did see that the City had a problem of making land available
to healthy business becanse Bremerton is sensitive of being rather limited in land for its busi-
ness community. The engineer stated that this seems to he the only acceptable place.
~r onent - blr lames Skirving
· $kirving stated he didn't have reference to trucks going back and forth, but he did have ref-
erence to trucks stacked all over the place, as shown in the pictures he had presented, on the
narrow street· ~lr. Skirving stated that the government program 235, and program 221-D, which is
connected to the VA, and other programs, are still available for housing, which is nothing do~;
however, what blr. Lile has done as far as real estate is concerned, is make it very difficult
to present a program to the government, because those warehouses are not beautiful. They have
big crates stacked, and the code states that everything has to be trader cover, and that he inter-
prets the code to mean that the crates also must be under cover. If it is true that tbe warehous(
is going to be set back and the area is not going to have an industrial look, then this was all
right, lie said that he had no place to go for housing until there was water and sewers available
up on his site, and now his opportunity is to put 300 or 400 houses on his property, lle said
that the only ownership of land between the end of lqerner Rd., and Kitsap Lake was in his m~d blt.
Burk's ownership. ~lr. Skirving pointed out that there are other areas available for warehouses,
such as Car Town or to the head of the bay. Hr. Skirving stated that this rezone is 3/4 of a mil(
from other commercial and is on a farm. lie also stated there was a creek which runs right down
through the area; tbat Mr. Lile has a water problem and that the Fisheries Dept. and everybody
was interested in that; also, tbere is a knoll in two places, and a valley, and tlmt he does not
have a level piece of property, bir. Skirving suggested the City Council go out and inspect tile
property, and see the creek bed. lie said that he wanted industrial around Bremerton just as m~ch
as others do, but he didn't want to hurt growth of the town by spot zoning, lie mentioned that on
his property there was a B-2 zone, but blt. Lile is asking for B-3 and warehousing comes under
B-2. lie stated this has to be screened, and mentioned that there is a new brick apartment house
(M[NlrFliS - CITY COUNCIL ~FF~F, TING, NOV]~I'~R 10, 1971, Cont.)
right down the road. Mr. Skirving said he was pleading with the City' Council , and asked how
would they like to have Mint he has shown in the pictures; that Lile-Mayflower has been there
ten years, and asked M~y dichn't Bekin and the others do something? lie asked, why did the people
raise n~ against Spaeth, and answered, becanse of these big cartons, trucks, and noise and con-
fusion of the diesels; that it is not good for a residential district. Mr. Skirving said that
Lile-Mayflower should be down in the comercial district and gradually work up, and shouhl not
be allowed to zone by a residential area; however, if the Council does allow him, he should go
back 30~ feet and allow for housing in the front, so when people drive by they won't get the
idea there is a warehouse operation there.
A short discussion followed as to comparing B-2 and B-3 zones, and what could go in on B-3.
Hr. Skirving mentioned that the Boundary Review Board had turned down this area for annexation
because of a proposed warehouse in a beautiful potential residential area. Mayor Jarstad stated
that the Boundary Review Board was not a Planning Commission; however, Commissioner Schoneman
reiterated that was their reason.
Hr. Lile stated that it was necessary for their firm to locate within the City; that it must havd
sprinkler facilities and so on. This was the reason they had asked for the annexation.
Hayor Jarstad remarked to Mr. Skirving that in his remarks there was quite a limitation in agree~
ing and disagreeing with the proposed rezone; that on the one hand he agreed if there was proper
screening and proper controls; that he didn't find this would go against residential develop-
ment.
Hr. Skirving answered that he wanted business here just as much as anybody, and he had no objec-
tions to him, but that he didn't want him to kill the City and himself, and if he would go back
500 feet, have a new entrance way, keep his trucks away, take care of the water, screen it so
that Fib% IRID and the banks would not stop him, that be would be the first to help him out, but
he didn't want to get killed.
Commissioner Clark asked, why 500 feet? bir. Skirving answered, so that houses can be put there
and then a street constructed back there, so that by having a lot of houses in front it can be
maintained as a residential area.
CommJssioner (;lark asked if something wouldn't be accepted with adequate screening? Hr. Skirving
answered that I~IA won't allow houses to come out on ~Verner Road. MIA made him change his plans.
There is no ingress or egress on a hip. hway for MIA. Mr. Lile would have to put houses in front
and a street in the back, which he could probahly use also, but he could not propose to eject
right out on Wemer Road.
Mr. l,ile said he didn't think it was necessary to make a diesel truck appear to be some kind of
tmdesirable piece of equipment, and he thought the trucks hauling gravel could be just as un-
desirable; that his trucks would not be going in there that often; that he can set back further
and make an attractive parking area in the front and there will not be anything objectionable;
that be didn't think it would be any more unreasonable than a grocery store.
Hr. Skirving said he didn't think Hr. Lile got the point; that trucks running back and forth
cannot be stopped from nmning on the road, but what he has objection to is when the trucks
come m~d park on a sixty foot road and run sometimes two or three hours before moving in and un-
loading, lie said that he has been an appraiser and in real estate for thirty years and he knows
what knocks down an area. lle wants schools and businesses and churches, but not right inside
residential, but around the corner, lie said that he had a problem two or three years ago with
Plb~ because of burned out houses, etc., on Werner Road, but now things are going in, such as tile
new Telephone Company Building, and the area is being cleaned up, and now we are letting the man
come in and knock us out.
There was a discussion following concerning Mr. Skirving's 11-2 and the location of the county
road that comes up to htr. ~Skirving's property.
~ayor Jarstad said he appreciated the comments of both opponents and proponents, and that he was
well aware of tile business of storage because his business in ~k~nette was next door to Spaeth,
and that he has followed the problems of Spaeth in acquiring land so they could do a more proper
job of getting the trucks off the street and taking care of their workload in connection with
the storage of furniture; that he has never found it objectionable from a noise level; that it
a most quiet industry and they maintained themselves well; that their facilities were locked
on the weekends and evenings. The Mayor stated further, there was no objection by the people
on the conduct of Spaeth's business, the only objection was because there was not enough room
so that they could get tlmir tracks off the road, and there was no objection from the neighbors
as to noise and unsightliness. The Mayor stated that there is a problem before them in that
l.ile-~layflower has been hefore the City many times in trying to find a tract large enough to
properly conduct their business, and for some reason or another these areas, which were adjacent
to areas being talked about today, were turned down because of the narrowness of streets and
accessibility to freeways. The ~k~yor stated there was a direct access to the new freeway which
is going in, which would make this the shortest roadway to reach a storage terminal. IIe stated
that he favors, at this time, rezoning, with the designation and controls placed upon the approv-
al hy the Planning Commission.
blotion by biayor Jarstad and Commissioner Clark that the rezone be approved, subject to the rec-
o~---~--h%ration of the planning department.
(Cont. next page)
'MINlrI'ES - C[1~ COUNCIL MEEI'ING, NOVI$~BER 10, 1971, Cont.)
Discussion: Con~nissioner Schoneman suggested that the decision be delayed until such time as the
site may be reviewed and they could properly judge what tile set back distance might have to be;
that the City Cotmcil }las done this in the past, and in trying to follow the description of the
property of the creek and the several knolls, and since it has been stated that this is a level
area, that he would like to observe what actually lies there.
Commissioaer Clark stated that he concurs with the Mayor's comments and would like to enlarge on
them a little; that he has seen Lile-Mayflower come before the City Council on occassions and
there have been a mnM~er of insurmeuntable problems, lie stated that he has gained the impression
that Lile-Hayflower is most cooperative to meet as reasonably as they can, various objections;
that he tbooght it had been commented by Mr. Lile that he would be amenable to setback. Commis-
sioner Clark said he appreciated Commissioner Schoneman's remarks, but that he tended to feel
this was the place for Lile-biayflower to go; that he believed the vote of the Planning Commission
was almost unanimous, but he thought the proper thing to do was to look at the property. Commis-
sioner Clark stated he thought the Planning Cor~nission resolution is in keeping with tile design
of not showing a setback from the road, but he didn't think he concurred with the 300 feet recom-
mended by Mr. Skirving, but that there was something more reasonable which would accomplish the
same thing, lle agreed that it might be well to defer final action and to look at the property
and consider the proper setback and screening.
Commissioaer Schoneman stated that he has been familiar with the Lile-Mayflower operation at theiL
various locations, and their problems with inadequate space, and he could sympatbi~e with their
needs for acreage of this size which would be more suited to their business, lie also said be
appreciated their business being in Bremerton and felt that by next week a decision could he made,[
ami }loped that tile site could be viewed this week.
Commissioner Clark con~nented further that the implication has been made there would be problems
with trncks; however, he believed their troubles in the past have been with improper space.
Hr. Lile stated they operated on something less than 1/2 acre, but here they would be operating
on 2 1/2 acres; that there would be no parking on roads at all; also said that some of tile trucks
at the Westpark location were not their trucks.
Mayor ,larstad stated that the vote on the motion could be delayed until next week so a study can
be made. lle commented that one of the problems that faces Lile-Mayflower is that they must oper-
ate within the City limit boundaries, according to their operational permit, and areas that are
annexed by Bremerton are usually not annexed until they are already congested, which makes it dif-
ficult for ,an area to be available. The City of Bremerton is very limited in having any loca-
tions and it may be around this area on Werner Road that the City should actively look to the
Planning Bepartment to study amending the Comprehensive Plan, with the knowledge that the freeway
is there and open land is there, and it could have proper guidelines so it would not be injurious
to residential development. From the remarks that Mr. Skirving has made, the Telephone Company
bas bclped the area, rather than decreasing the area or its livability. The blayor said he tbough~
that properly executed building plans and performance standards can integrate any development
within the city. The Mayor stated that if there is nothing further on this hearing the City Cmm-i
cil will abstain from action until next meeting with the motion before the Council.
I¢~'I,OYNENr
EFA ~ 1.
~ Liner - llelper - Water Distribution - $630.00 - Effective 10-28-71.
Motion by Commissioner Schoneman and Mayor darstad to approve the employment, carried unanimously(
~yor commented regarding the difference in pay between a helper and a groundskeeper. Com-
missioner Schoneman stated that tile EF~ employees must receive that salary or wage which is in
tile budget, nnd that normally employees don't get that much, but it is the range they ultimately
receive, lie pointed out that this employment program is only on a year's basis. Commissioner
Clark ngreed that this program must pay the same as other employees.
CID~NGI! OE PAY STATIJS
l.awrence E. Morrill - Electrician and Traffic Lights - Traffic Control - $4.21 to $4.38 - liffec-
tive 11-16-71.
Hotion by Conmissioner Schoneman and Mayor Jarstad to approve.
~sion: There was a lengthy discussion following as to Mlether Mr. Norrill was entitled to
a change of pay status, in as much as the job title was the same as set out in the budget, and
that if he were to receive a raise in pay which was not a change of position, that there were
others whose pay had been frozen who would also believe they are eligible for a change of pay.
It was brought out that the City had been advised that all changes of pay were frozen. There
was a discussion between the commissioners on various points of the salary requests and the rules
governing tile freeze. Mayor Jarstad stated that proper clearance should be obtained from the
governmental agency handling tile freeze, and the City Clerk is checking at the present time so
that the City can give ail probationary employees their raises, which includes fire and police
who were going to their second and subsequent years. The question was not called on the motion
and therefore was not voted upon.
Motion by Mayor Jarstad and Commissioner Clark that this part of the Council business concerning
t ~e-fi~omotion be placed with the other promotions that are being withheld awaiting clarification
from the Federal Government.
(Cont. next page)
(MINIYrI!$ - CI'I¥ (?OUNCIL Mlil!TING, NOVI3H1ER 10, 1971, Cont.)
Further discussion was held, anti the Mayor stated that the intent was just to hold up cmtil
clarification of Federal guidelines. Commissioner Schoneman pointed out that the change of
pay request was different from the memo read at the other Council meting, wherein the raise
would have been effective Nov. 1; that this change would be effective November 10, which is afte~
the Freeze is removed.
The roll call on the motion was as follows: Mayor Jarstad * yes, Commissioner Clark - yes,
Co,~nissioner Schoneman - no. b~otion carried.
PAYROI..L VOUCI
Clerk presented Payroll voucher for the period ending October 31, 1971, in the amount of $127,191
audited by Ilarold Pitzwater and approved by Commissioner Clark.
~Iotion hy bIayor Jarstad and Commissioner Clark to approve tile payroll Voucher, carried unanimous-'
ly.
TAXICAB 1)RIVEII'fi I.ICF~qSE
Clerk read application from Jerry Edwin I~assenaar, approved by Chief of Police.
biotion hy Commissioners Schone,~an and Clark to approve, carried unanimously.
OUTSIi)E [friLl'iT APPLICATION AND AGIUiE~MNq'
Clerk presented application and agreement from Ralph J. and Ruth Rippee for sewer connection in
the Sylvan Park Plat. The distance from the City limits is thirty feet. Attached was m. memo
from /Ir. Parker, City Engineer, recommending that application be approved. Memo stated tile
property is located at the S.E. corner of Petersville Road and Ivy Road. Commissioner Schone-
man asked b~r. Parker if this is the same lot they had declined to connect for a mobile home,
~d b~r. Parker said that it was not.
blotion by Commissioners Schoneman ,and Clark to approve Outside Utility Agreement, carried unan-
~y.
(;AS, OII,S AND GREASES - BII) AW~d~D
City Clerk reported for the committee who studied the bids, and the recommendation is to award
the gasoline contract for 1972 to Standard Oil Co., for both regular and premiun, and that tile
oils and greases be awarded to Standard and Texaco on those items on which each was the iow bid-
der, and tie to Standard.
~k)tion hv Conmissioners Schoneman mid Clark to award as recommended, carried unanimously.
TIRIiS Alql) 'IIlBES - BID CALL
Clerk asked for authority to call for bids for tires anti tubes supply for 1972.
~btien hy Commissioner Clark and ~ayor Jarstad to approve the bid call. Carried unanimously.
APPLICATION - ~USIC 5t~(.]IINI! - ARISTA
C'lerk presented application for a music machine, approved by Assistant Chief llenry, due to bona
fide sale of the business.
b~otion }~y Mayor Jarstad and Commissioner Clark to approve transfer of the license, cprried unan-
I!EA
L'Fd-rk reported for the Civil Service office that of the thirty-nine positions authorized, twenty~
seven ]lave been filled according to Civil Service records, and twelve to go. Conmdssioner Clark
stated that the one remaining position of groundskeeper was just about ready to be filled today,
and that people are still being looked for for the other positions.
LID - KITSAP LAKE BUSINESS DISTRIUr
Clerk read letter from City Engineer, Parker, to the Council, dated November 10, 1971, which
attached a petition for the formation of an LID for sewers, and stated the petition has been
checked and valid signatures by square footage is 52.33%, and valid signatures by front footage
is 58.22%.
blotion by Conmissioners Schoneman and Clark to accept the petition as sufficient, and that the
proper resolution be prepared to set trp the LID, carried unanimously.
IAW AND JUSTICE
,~layor Jarstad addressed the press and radio representatives and stated that tomorrow in Seattle,
i f they could attend, there is to be a State Law and Justice meeting, and this meting is with
the Governor; that the l,aw and Justice Committee is in the process of distrihuting five to six
million dollars a year in grants in the State of l{ashington; that this would be a good informa-
tional meeting and it will be a working session; that he will be attending as a member of the
State Law and Justice Committee.
Nlatrr (I)UNCIL b~E'I'ING
~ayor Jarstad stated he would recommend establishing the night co~mcil meetings for the winter td
be~in December 16,1971. There being no objection to this proposal, the night council meting
will be the third Thursday in December, December 16.
[layer .larstad recessed the City Council Meeting at 11:45, to reconvene at 12:00 noon, in as
much as he had to attend a meeting in Seattle and the City Auditor wished to confer with the
Comnissioners for a few minutes.
(Cont. next page)
(MINIrI'I!S - CT'I3( COUNCIL ~I~TING~ NOVI~BER 10, 1971, Cont.)
City Cmmcil reconvened at 12:00 noon, with Austin Clark, Hayer pro tern as Chairman, and with
Commissioner Scboneman, City Clerk Yeadon, City Attorney Kamps, and press and radio representa-
tives attending.
IJ:.TI*EI~ - DEPARTHENrl' OF FISI~:,RIES (Manette Treatment Plant)
City Clerk rea~F from a copy of a letter dated November 1, 1971, to the General Construction Com-
pany, from the Department of Fisheries, which stated the Department of Fisheries and the Depart-
ment of ¢;ame have reviewed the City's application for the outfaI1 extension and they have no ohjecy
lion to this construction, subject to a number of provisions concerning care of the beach and
marine life, etc. Hr. Parker and Commissioner Schoneman requested a copy of the letter.
Clerk read letter dated November 4~ 1971, addressed to the City Clerk, which stated that a U.A.B.~
staff member would be in Bremerton on December 6, 1971, to Conduct a final review of U.A.B. pro-
jects. Commissioner Clark commented there are no new funds now for arterial projects, and Com-
missioner Schoneman stated that there is previous funding for several projects in Bremertun, and
the City intends to use these funds, bit. Parker explained that the legislature would not appro-
priate any more money and the only money available would be where projects were not done and the
money came back to the II.A.B.
BtII.LARI) - CITY tVF. Ll. AT BROIqNSVII. LE
[:or information, the City Clerk read the agreement signed by property owners near the City's
Brownsville well, which Mr. Robert 3. Bullard has leased from the City. The agreement i~as signed
by nine property miners. Commissioner Schoneman explained tile background of the well and of the
lease wblch was entered into with Hr. Bullard in 1970, and conanented that it was better to use
the well than let it remain idle.
OPd)IN~NCIi # 2986 - IlOLFOPdl RIiZONE
Clerk read Ordinance # 2986, second reading, An Ordinance amending the use and area maps accord-
ing to Ordinance # 1792. Hr. Gary. Sexton was present at this time and the clerk informed him ther{,
bad been a question as to the proper wording of the iand use restriction. It had stated "density
limited to fifteen to twenty units per acre." Mr. SeCtion recommended better language would be
"density limited to not more than twenty units per acre," and this change was made to the Ordin-
ance.
~Jotion by Commissioner Scboneman and ~4ayor pro tern Clark to pass Ordinance #2986, carried unani-
24" FHTINGS - PIIRCIbkSE
Clerk read mine from ~lr. lh~nble, Water Superintendant, to Commissioner Schoneman, wbicb stated
that when the old steel main was exposed at the new freeway crossing area, it was discovered that
the standard 24" cot~lings used on the newer steel pipe were too small and new ones must be order-i
ed as quickly as possible to permit work to continue; that the couplings are available from West- '
ern IItilities of Seattle, who were low bidder on the straight couplings purchased for this job.
Memo reqnested antborization to purchase four 24" O.D. by 24" I.D. steel transition counlin~s.
The quoted twice is $136.~(! each, plus freight from San Francisco and sales {ax.. Delivery to be
made in four days. Clerk recoranended that lqestern ~tilities, who have a contract for furnishing
similar st~plies for 1971, be given the purchase m~der change order and as an addition to the con-!
tract.
Motion by Commissioner Schoneman and Mayor pro tern Clark that this is an emergency need, and tbat
t ~e-J~-~chase be made by a change order to the existing contract, carried unanimously.
Tl'2x~()IPd~Y PERMIT TO STKrE - ROAD N. OF TAIlUYA LAKE
Clerk read a memo from Mr. llumble to Comissioner Schoneman, which stated the State Bepartment of
Natural Resources is planning the early development of a public recreation area on state owned
land. 1'o gain access they must use a road across a portion of the watershed wbicb is owned by tbel
City, and this tract is included witb a number of others in a trade now being negotiated, whereby ,
the City wonld acquire state o~med land that forms part of the Union tLiver Watershed. The state
is requesting a temporary permit so they may proceed with plans to develop the area for use by
the public next season. The memo stated that Mr. Humble has reviewed the conditions and discussedI
the terminology of the permit form with state officials and everything appears to be in order; tha~
the permit may he executed without jeopardizing the negotiating position of the City in the pro-
posed land exchange. IJnder the new agreement the City would not be obligated to share the cost
of road maintenance for public use. The agreement establishes a termination date set arbitrarily
at five years, because this is the time the state usually requires for exchange negotiations.
The period could be shortened ~ithout affecting the rest of the instrument, and Mr. Humble recom-
mended early approval of the permit. Commis$ionerSchoneman stated he would like to shorten the
period to two years, ~ith tile abillty to renew at that tim if necessary. This particular re-
quest came before the City several montbs ago and the state was then asking for a permanent ease-
ment to tile recreation site, and since the City has no need for the land on which they wish to
cross, the proposal of exchanging property was made, and the state jumped at the chance to exchange
property: that the City and state are going to exchange even 40 acres for 40 acres, and Commissiom
er Schoneman said be didn't see why it would take tile state five years to make the exchange, lie
said the City is waiting for a resolution to be prepared to get on the way with the exchange;
also, that he thought the length of time is proper because the state bas to go into some construc-
tion in opening t~ the road, etc., and it is possible the State Legislature may have to approve.
Motion by Commissioner Schoneman and Mayor pro tern Clark to approve the agreement with the two
year period, carried unanimously.
Clerk read a letter which has been formulated by Engineer Parker and the City Attorney's office,
(MINlrI'E,(; - CITY COUNCIL MEETING, NOVI~IBER 10, 1(.)71, Cont.)
which would act as an agreement, when signed by the ~4ayor and the sewer district cowMssioner,
for the maintenance and operation of certain sewer lines. These are the lines which are in-
volved in the new freeway, and are, in some instances, being relocated or abandoned, etc. Mr.
Parker explained that a short time ago the City Council approved an agreement between the City,
State of Washington, and the sewer district, concerning relocation of certain facilities; that
we're going to be involved through the new construction and that agreement sets out who was go-
lng to pay for what. In order to save the City money, joint facilities are being constructed
rather than forcing tile state to relocate two separate systems. In connection with that, tile st
has always indicated they want a separate agreement for those particular relocated facilities.
As a result of that, the district, although they approved of the agreement which all were strp-
posed to sign three weeks ago, would not affix their signature until a maintenance agreement
was arrived at. Mr. Parker said he has been working with the district and Mr. Ilumble on various
items and the items that are listed in the letter are okay from Mr. llumble's experience, and
have also discussed the letter with Cor~nissioner Schoneman. ]~e situation is this, that the
urgency of this agreement is because the state is going to open up the bids for the section of
Freeway next week and they want the other formalized agreement in their hands before awarding
a contract. Mr. Parker said he has changed the wording many times for the sewer district over
minor things, in getting something acceptable prepared. The changes required were probably due
to tile fact that tile City was dealing with laymen and they didn't understand the terms and so
had to keep changing the terminology. ~r. Parker stated he believed it is a good agreement for
the City, and stated the cormissioners will notice that the agreement only discusses trunk facil-
ities and he didn't get into sewer treatment, which will be a separate study. Commissioner Clark,
questioned if items 1 and 2 are identical situations except the ownership is reversed, and Mr.
Parker stated that was correct and that the east side is City owned with joint use facilities.
and the west side is district owned. Co~issioner Clark said that in item # 1 it includes the
statement that the district is to collect the monthly customer service charge within the distric~
and the reverse of the situation does not say anything about the City collecting sewer charges.
Mr. Parker stated that on tile west side it is within the district and is owned by tile district
and the City has no reason to ask for a connection to it for a lateral; those homes there are
in the district and not the City. Mr. Parker explained the "no-cost permits" on the west side,
and stated if anything is put on the west side, the district would collect the money, as the
line is in the district, lie stated further, that he had talked the district out of making "use
charges" because it would only be an exchange of dollars; that it is better to be no charge.
Commissioner Schoneman stated he believed this to be a very fair agreement and the attorneys and
Mr. Parker should be commended for its preparation; that it is exactly what has been discussed
with the sewer district commissioners and the state highway people who were involved in the
beginning. Commissioner Scboneman cemented that on part of Rogers and the arterial street
improvement on Kean street, the projects have included another line of separation of sanitary
and storm water and it is important to continue this separation down through Rogers Street. At
the east end of Rogers there will be a connection made to the new storm sewer that will be con-
structed by the highway department. This will separate the sewers and relieve the treatment
plant, because of our present combination of sanitary and storm sewer.
bbtion by ^cting Mayor Clark and Commissioner Schnneman that the blayor and City Clerk be author-
~ sign, on behalf of the City, the agreement incorporated in the letter. Motion carried
unanimously.
IAI} # 309 I1ARLOW I}RIVE SEI~RS
City Clerk read memo from City Engineer to City Council recommending acceptance of LID # $09)
based on a report from IIoward C, odat, that the project with Tucci and Sons should be accepted.
Motion by Commissioner Schoneman and Mayor pro tern Clark that we accept the reconmendation of
~,odat and accept the LID # 309 project. Commissioner Schoneman stated that Mr. Tucci did
a real good job and with five other LID projects pending he hopes that Mr. Tucci considers
bidding on a number of these. Motion carried unanimously.
IAI) # 310 - CONSTHIJTION AVENUE SE~ERS
Clerk read memo from City Engineer to City Council, which stated that Coulee Construction Compang
has completed their construction; that a completion inspection has been made and the contractor
has made the necessary adjustments, and recommended the Council accept the project.
~btion by Commissioner Schoneman and Mayor pro tern Clark ghat the City Council accept the con-
tract as recommended, carried unanimously.
RI~PORTS - Cfg[HSSIONER SCIDNF~N
1) Council mot regarding the parking meters on Washington Avenue between 4th and 6th Sis;
tile fact that the four-laning has been completed, the Council agreed that meters in this area
shonld he removed with no parking between Burwell and continuing clear through to llth and
Pacific: that there is a traffic problem there with two lanes approaching Burwell Street at the
light and then having to converge into one lane; have had some difficulties there.
Commissioner Clark asked why meters weren't on the lower part of Pacific? Commissioner Schone-
man said the contractor bad put in posts that were too short and they were in tile process of
being replaced.
2. Was out to the Golf Course clubhouse this morning and contractor is putting up the
plasterboard and working under cover and they are moving along very rapidly.
3. ~t with Erv Ileath this morning and suggested placing signs on the Old Belfair lligh-
way, one indicating the distm~ce to the entxance of the golf course, and one approximatley 500
feet from tile entrance to iudicate slow to those needing to make a turn. Ilopefully, if that
portion of the watershed mmership comes into the City, the City will put in a third lane for
turn movements, because then the highway would be under City jurisdiction.
4. Have stockpiled sand and salt mixture for ice and snow emergency and the City is mak-
ing its mm sand this year.
(HINIrI'ES - CHh' COUNCIL ~ETING, NOVF3~IER 10, 1971, Cont.)
5. The treatment plant construction moving along rapidly, with new design on the chlorina-
tion chamber and outfall extensions: and ]las reviewed both sites with Mr. llarrmann, the st~ervisor
and the f;eneral Contractors are making good progress; tile completion date is some time in January.
6. Also. notes the new restrooms under construction with no one working at the Jarstad
Park site. City Clerk explained that he has left a message for the contractor to contact him
because the contract was to have been completed the early part of this week. The contractor also
had appl ied for a third payment of $10,000, which was adjusted to under $3,000, due to the per-
centage of completion.
7. Pacific Avenue - [lave had rain conditions all week causing another delay; that there are
only two portions to pour and can't pour in the rain, and so probably will ask for additional ex-
tension. This is the lOth day of their 12 day extension.
REPORTS - Attorne7 ramps
1. Sewer Distr~ct # 1 Agreement was largely Mr. Parker's efforts.
2. Hr. Walgren and himself attended the City Attorney's Meeting last Friday and Saturday,
which was very interesting, particularly in the area of conflicts of interest for part-time City
Attorneys. ,~fr. Sexton was unable to attend due to the Buel case. This case started on 2]mrsday
and continued through Friday and Monday. The .Judge, in his rnling, etc., ruled in favor of the
City. Fir. Kamps gave further information concerning the ruling and Mr. Sexton discussed the
CaSe.
3. Butler vs. the City of Bremerton appears to be going up to the Court of Appeals. Hr.
Sexton discussed the cost of transcription if the City decides to go on full appeal. Hr. Schon-
eman questioned the fact that one person is paying for the case and appeal (Bud).
BILLS
~ by Hayor pro tern Clark and Comnissioner Schoneman to pay ali bills that are approved by
t e-~jority of the Comnission, carried unanimously.
RJiPoIYrS - Con~nissioner Clark
Reported on the use of the newly installed fine-o-meter boxes, and stated that from August 24,
through November S, 4,294 parking tickets were paid, of which, 2,408 were put in these boxes,
which is 56% of all the tickets.
The ~layor, Comissioner Schoneman, City Clerk Yeadon and Comnissioner Clark attended the opening
of the Job Fair at the Sheridan Park Comnunity Center. This program has heen worked on for about
eight weeks by many people, including the Commissioners and the Mayor, and including many Veteran
organizations. 'rhere were a substantial number of employers and potential employees out this
morning, and the opening appears to be a success. This is the second Job Fair in the State of
Washington, the first having been held in Tacoma, which was successful, and believes ours will
be too. 'l'bis is aa attempt to help Veterans find employment
Fer~us Presby commented that Jeanette llolman, a veteran, was the first person hired. She was
hired by Peninsula Volkswagen on a part-time basis to work into full-time.
bleeting adjourned 1:04 P.bl.
APP ROVED: G. C'~~C~ ~
· YEAF~, SR., ~ty Cler~
t;I,ENN K. JARSTAI),