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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/20/89 TAPE ~673 UNAPPROVED DRAFT CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 20, 1989 The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers, 239 4TM Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, September 20 1989 at 5:30 p.m., with Council President Spencer Horning presiding. Council members present were Lon Overson, Shirley Marry Crutcher~ Lynn Morton, Morrie Dawkins, C. R. "Tiny" Collins, A1 Coivin, Russ Johnson and Hank Waibel. Also present were City Attorney Ian Sievers and City Clerk Kathieen McCluskey. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council President Morning and Invocation was given by Captain Tom Morrow of the Salvation Army. CONSENT AGENDA A. Minutes of Meeting - August 30, i989~ $AB89-258 B. Minutes of Meeting - September 6, 1989, #AB89-259 ,025 M/S/C/U(Waibet/Crutcher) to approve Consent Agenda as presented. CLAIMS/WARRANT REGISTERS Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as required by RCW 42.24.080, and those expense reimbursement claims certified as required by ~CW 42.24.090, have been recorded on a listing which has been made available to the council. ~040 M/S/C/U(Coivin/0verson) on September 20, 1989 the Council does approve for payment those vouchers included and further described as follows: 100012 through 100147 in the total amount of $$658,305.28. COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS Mr. Crutcher congratulated those candidates who survived the Primary Election. Mr. Waibel stated Bremerton has an opportunity during the next 60 days to hear a lot oi good plans and ideas presented by the nopefui candidates. Mr. Collins reported last Saturday evenlng there was an outstanding civic event~ which was not as well attended as he would have liked - the Symphony Concert to the Centennial of the shipyard, if a better turnout to such an event can be planned, there will be another Symphony Concert next year. He noted the Shipyard is a part o~ the City and to become i00 years old is a milestone and to be as viable as it is. Me urged the Council and City to become more involved in the Centennial and in the work that is going on toward it. And, he announced that everyone, including Council members and those in the audience~ as well as the T¥ audience, are invited to a 60th birthday celebration f6r Deli Fields at Bremerton Auto Parts uhis evening. Mr. Colvin congratulated the survivors of the Primary Election. He thanked the Street Department for their response to a request by neighbors on Willow Street to clean up the sidewalks. Also, he was approached by several concerned citizens about an area on Lebo Blvd., where the street had dropped below street level and they were concerned the bus would drop through it. This iniormation has been passed on to Ken Brees for further investigation. Mr. Jonnson thanked the Mayor and staff for the recent paint job of City Hall. in watching the Primary campaigns he felt they were well conducted by all the candidates and those who did not make the finals he urged to not give up on participating in government, in TAPE $673 City Councll Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 2 of 18 regard to some things that were written in the newspaper, there were a couple of comments that concerned him: (1) the form of City of Bremerton Government. He pointed out there are not many cities who have something other than Mayor/Council form of government...Bremerton is not doing an "odd ball thing''. (2) In some of the editorials it talked about the need for the Mayor to say NO to the Council...havinG Gone through a couple of Mayors that is usually not what happens from either the Mayor or Council. If it is a budget discussion, it is a Given as to how much money will be spent. An issue may arise as to where monies are to be spent but it does not come down to "no you can't do that'~ Most o~ what comes to the Council are administrative proposals based on the budget. Mr. Horninq extended congratulations to everyone involved in the Primary Election and commended Kitsap County for their recent actions to clean up "BerG's" on the Navy Yard Highway. PUBLIC RECOGNITION Roy McInnis, 2711 Maple Street, expressed concern over Council's recent rezone action on a piece of property on Clare Avenue. He pointed out that he hoped the City would not use the complaint of one person to stop them from following through with a reasonable zoning process for a particular area. He was not sure if City staff talked with this one individual regarding what benefit it would be to her if her property were included in the requested rezone. He stated the entire area surrounding two small pieces of property was already zoned Commercial and it would have been logical to take the two remaining residential properties and make them Commercial zoned. And, he also was Glad to see something being done with the "Berg" property and hoped if and when Sinclair Baptist Church is annexed into the City action will be taken by the City to help clean up an eyesore that exists in that area. Mr. Waibei questioned if recent questions raised by citizens had been answered? President Homing stated normal procedure is for City staff to respond directly to the people who pose the question. Kathleen McCiuske¥, City Clerk, stated in response to Mr. Parypa's question regarding the dumpster in front of weir's on 4th Street, was that the dumpster is placed in front of the bay doors adjacent to the repair facility on Monday and Wednesday evenings for garbage pick up and they are retrieved on the following mornings before starting their work day, about 8:00 AM. The owner of Weirs indicated that to his knowledge no one had been told they could not park at a parking meter - dumpsters were not located in front of the parking meters. Also, the owner stated that Brem-Air~ Inc.~ will not pick up Garbage in the alley because the alley is too narrow for the trucks. The owner was advised to make sure the dumpster was not blocking any parking meters or taking any street space. The owner also indicated that the placement and pickup of the Garbage dumpster has been the same for three years. President HorninG stated he did have a response for the question raised by Ms. Davies and he will forward that response to her directly. 6A - REQUEST TO APPROVE AMBULANCE RATES - BREMERTONAMBULANCE, INC. ~AB89-260 ,Bremerton Ambulance, Inc., is a new ambulance company that has applied for a City license. The attached rate schedule for services needs to be approved by Council prior to operation. Comparisons to rates for other ambulance services are attached. Paula Johnston, License Inspector, stated Bremerton Ambulance had completed their application - having appropriate insurance coverage and ambulances inspection. The licensing process requires TAPE #673 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 3 of 18 that before a license is granted the City Council must approve ambulance rates. Ms. Johnston stated the owners of Bremerton Ambulance are Graylee Johnson, Paul Soiberg and Chris Norton. Chris Norton, owner~ noted the charge rate is only $5.00 over the previous Ambulance Company (Olympic Ambulance) - the reason being they are a new budding company, which does not have a large equity. The employees of the company are still working for Olympic Ambulance. Mr. Waibel stated the proposed rate schedule did not include "advanced life support" and questioned if it would be added in the future? Mr. Norton stated they would be staying with basic life support and do not plan on moving into advanced life support. Mr.Overson questioned what are the credentials for starting an ambulance company? Mr. Norton explained that City of Bremerton has a chapter in the BMC that requires employees of an ambulance company have a minimum certification level of Basic First Aid and all of his employees at this time are Emergency Medical Technicians, which requires schooling of 150 hours of Advanced First Safety, and exceed this requirement. This requirement is set forth by the State. Mr. Overson questioned there are now two emergency vehicles responding to any accident with the formation of Bremerton Ambulance does this mean there will be three emergency vehicles responding? Mr. Norton explained when another ambulance company works in the City a month- on rotation process is established~ which allows for only one ambulance besides the City's emergency vehicle~ responding to a City emergency call. Mr. Colvin questioned if there is enough business in the City to support two ambulance companies? Mr. Norton stated they will be depending as well on private calls from the hospital, nursing homes, and other businesses. At this time it is hard, due to their being a new business, to determined if there will be sufficient calls. Mr. Colvin questioned who would be responsible for making sure that the credentials are accurate and qualifications are up- to-date? Ms. Johnston stated through the license process all of the qualifications are reviewed and the City also licenses each ambulance driver (individually), and their credentials are reviewed at every renewal period. The ambulance vehicles are inspected twice a year by the Police and Fire Departments. Mr. Johnson questioned if there were a rotation system established does Bremerton Ambulance have the equipment and staff to respond on a 3-shift basis? Mr. Norton stated they staff three basic life support aid vehicles, as does Olympic Ambulance. Mr. Johnson asked if the rotation subject had been brought up with CenCom, hospitals and other ambulance company? Kathleen McCluske¥~ City Clerk, stated not as yet only the rate acceptance has been requested. ~r__._ Johnson pointed out that Bremerton Ambulance rates are probably based on a 6 month rotation process and Olympic Ambulance has probably based their rates on a yearly basis. President Homing noted if there is a change in rates by Olympic Ambulance they would have to come before the City Council and explain why such rates are being imposed. Mr. Waibel questioned if Bremerton Ambulance does not provide advance life service during the months they would be responsible for calls would ambulance services, which do provide advance life support, be required? Mr. Norton stated the advance life support in the City of Bremerton is provided by City paramedics and if life support services are contracted between hospitals it is his understanding they would be provided by Olympic Ambulance. Mr. Johnson questioned if the rates would hold up as presented if there was no "rotation" process? Mr. Norton stated he believed so. TAPE #673 City Council ReG. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 4 of 18 Nr. Overson expressed concern that an increase, even a $5.00 increase, would be a hardship on residents and questioned how long they would be in business if the City requires that rates be level with the existing company? Mr. Norton stated there is only $5.00 difference and he could not speak for Olympic Ambulance Company whether or not they would have to or need to raise their rates. And, if the City mandated rates be dropped by $5.00 then it would be done. He did note that due to the most call volume in Bremerton (484 DSHS and Medicare) the rest of the tax payers have to make up the difference. Mr. Overson questioned where Bremerton Ambulance's business office is located? Mr. Norton stated their office is based at the same office as Olympic Ambulance - 1231 Campbell Way. And, if a rotational system is established they will provide the staffing for Olympic Ambulance. Mr. Overson cautioned the Council that the rates proposed is an increase and he would not support the proposal. Mr. Crutcher pointed out that it is competitive business. 866 M/S/(Crutcher/Johnson) to approve ambulance rates as presented by Bremerton Ambulance Company. Mr. Johnson requested clarification of ownership and staffing between Bremerton Ambulance and Olympic Ambulance. Mr. Norton stated Bremerton Ambulance provides staff of employees which are then leased to Olympic Ambulance for their services during their designated rotation months. Mr. Johnson questioned who owns the ambulance vehicles? Mr. Norton stated they are leasing their vehicles from Bill Littlejohn Inc. Mr. Johnson noted this sounded like there is only one ambulance company. Mr. Norton stated Bremerton Ambulance is owned by three individuals and would be leasing Mr. Littlejohn staffing for his services during his rotation periods. What this provides is employee security because they are not taking over another company. Mr. Norton indicated he had worked in the City for seven years under Olympic Ambulance and KPS and he wants to keep his job secure. And, Mr. Littlejohn is wanting to get out the ambulance business and Mr. Norton hopes to buy him out someday. President Horning stated it sounded like the citizens will be paying for the extra leasing costs and it would have an impact. Mrs. Horton stated when Olympic Ambulance requested a rate increase a few months ago there was another proposal that indicated Olympic Ambulance would be staying around for a long time and wanted some reasonable assurances from Bremerton that would happen and now the City is being told Mr. Littiejohn wants to Get out of the ambulance business. She expressed concern that the whole story is not being told and it appears that the rate increase would have an effect on both companies. Mr. Dawkins questioned if the City's Ambulance Committee is active and would this be something they should look at. Ms. McCluske¥ stated they are active as an advisory committee but they do not typically deal with new ambulance company applications. Because the standards in the Code Book for License do not include that review or recommendation~ they do not go to that committee. However, if Council had some specific questions to look into the ownership arrangement then they could deal with that. Mr. Dawkins noted competition is healthy but he was not sure what is being proposed is competition and further review should be Given and brought back to Council explaining exactly what is happening. Mr. Colvin stated ne was more concerned about the quality of service than the rate increase and questioned how is the City going to Get the qualitative of service or better? Ms. Johnston stated these ambulances are licensed with criteria they have to meet at TAPE %673 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 5 of 18 the State and City level. The people working for Bremerton Ambulance have already been giving the City private ambulance care (they are the same individuals), so the care would be consistent. She could not guarantee the quality but it would be consistent with what has been given in the past. 220 M/S/C(Waibel/Dawkins) to table this item for two weeks for further review. Vote: In Favor: Horton, Waibel, Collins, Dawkins. Coivin, Johnson, Overson, Horning Opposed: Crutcher President Horninq requested direction from Mr. Waibel as to what issues would be addressed during this review. Mr. Waibel stated it was pointed out that a rotational system would be in effect and that Bremerton Ambulance company would have the responsibility for one month and then would lease employees to Olympic Ambulance the next month...this would not be workable under the system because advanced life support will still be needed, how they will work with CenCom, who is available for what runs, and identification of Bremerton Ambulance as a separate entity. Mr. Norton explained that from his experience ALS calls out of the hospital do not get dispatched through CenCom - they go straight from Harrison Hospital to the ambulance company. President Homing _ pointed out the majority of calls would be dispatched and Council desires to know how Bremerton Ambulance will handle that and what exceptions will be made. Also, they will have to work with Bremerton Police and find out if they will comply with that...if they say no then there is a major problem. Mr. Johnson requested the City Attorney and License Inspector to look into the business structure, type of corporation and how it is determined on a given day who is working for who. Mr. Crutcher pointed out the Council responsibility was to approve rates and he did not feel it was appropriate for City staff to be asked to look into other aspects such as organization, etc. President Horninq stated the rates were not approved due to the "tabling" motion, and the Council has an obligation to tell Bremerton Ambulance why they were not approved. 6B - PARKING PLAN, $AB89-235 The plan is submitted by the Citizens Parking Plan Committee in joint effort with input from Bremerton Main Street Association, Bremerton Area Chamber of Commerce, Flagship, and Bremerton/Kitsap County Visitor & Convention Bureau. Upon passage, the Parking Committee will work with the Advisory Board to prepare the proper ordinances and resolutions pertaining to this plan. Recommendation is to form the Parking Advisory Boaro consisting o~ a resident from each of Bremerton's nine Council Districts and one Bremerton Area Chamber of Commerce member, one member from the Central Business District and one at-large member from the Bremerton business community. These members will be nominated by their respective Council members and organizations. Duties and terms of office are included in the Parking Plan. This committee will include one non-voting City Council member and will have non- voting staff support from the City Treasurer. City Engineer and Police Department and non-voting staff support from Kitsap Transit. Mrs. Horton stated after the Council's Study Session the Parking Committee met and incorporated some of the comments and suggestions, such as: (1) the Council member who is on the Advisory Board would not be the chair .... this was removed, however, the TAPE #673 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 6 of 18 Committee did feel they wanted the members nominated by their respective members and organizations rather than go through the regular process for obtaining members for boards and commissions. Once the Plan is approved, the Parking Committee will bring back to Council all the resolutions and ordinances needed for implementation. The Parking Committee agreed overall on the proposed plan and endorsed it even though each individual member may have had an item or more that they personally did not like. During the Study Session, two of the major issues brought up were the computerized enforcement system and consolidating the funds. The City Auditor conducted an in depth study of the City's current parking system and two of his recommendations are: (1) acquire a computerized parking system; (2) to consolidate the parking funds so as to give a clear idea of actual income and costs. Mrs. Horton requested that Council consider consolidating the parking funds for at least one year on a trial basis. In regard to the computerized system, discussion brought out that it may not be desired to spend money on such a system at this time - in the opinion of the Auditor it was felt that it would pay for itself in a matter of months and according to cities who have used such a system they back up this point and have had very good results. What is being requested is not that the City purchase such a system but that one be acquired either through time payments or leasing. Any action to acquire such a system would have to come back before the Council for approval, as well as a demonstration. Del Knauss, 139 Olympic Avenue, Parking Committee member~ pointed out that the Committee gave a great deal o~ attention to the issue of commuter parking in residential areas and has been rewritten to make it a "test area'' if it can be approved by 604 of the residents in a particular area. He stated he fully supports the plan as presented and urged the Council to approve the plan. Lawrence Soriano, 3006 Cherry Avenue (Attorney at 509 4TH Street), Parking Committee member and representative to the Committee from Bremerton Main Street Association, stated that the comments he would be making had the backing and unanimous approval of the Bremerton Main Street Board. First of all, generally Main Street and he endorse the plan as it is being presented, however, he did have several items which were "a minority opinion" that particularly address the downtown or central business area. He conducted an informal survey of current businesses open in the downtown area and discovered between 6th Street to First Avenue and Park Avenue to Washington Avenue there are businesses, offices and enterprises totally 194. He did not include City Hall nor J.C. Penneys, old Bremers' Department store, U.S. Post Office, hotels or apartments buildings. Therefore, downtown is not deserted, not dead and it is important to the City to have a viable downtown. Issues of concern to Mr. Soriano are: (i) Commercial Parking - the 10 hour zone as it applies to the central business district is inappropriate. There are quite possibly areas around town, particularly in residential areasr where 10 hour parking may be appropriate. He cited existing businesses, such as Woolworth, do not have parking available either in front of their establishment or relatively near by. He questioned if this gives those businesses the message that "Bremerton does not care" whether they do business downtown or not? Mr. Soriano requested when the Council adopts the Parking Plan that they amend the portion of Commercial Parking Plan to state that 10 hour on street metered parking would not be allowed in the central business district. He questioned by what authority gave the City Treasurer authority to make the decision to change two hour parking meters located on Burwell between Park and Pacific to 10 hour parking? He noted that TAPE #673 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 7 of 18 he was informed the 10 hour meters located between Park and Warren Avenue were at a higher rate per hour than those located between Park and Pacific and questioned how this came about. There are at least 24 businesses between 4th Street and 1st Street on Pacific - businesses that are directly affected by people who can come down and park in the Burwell area and do business in the downtown. In addition~ there are another 14 offices in that area...making 38 businesses that could be affected. He also requested that the Council direct whoever was responsible for making the two hour meters to 10 hour meters to look at it again and return them to two hour meters. (2) 7-Day and 24-hour enforcement - Mr. Soriano stated ~owntown is directly affected by this section, specifically on Sundays and holidays. Currently Sundays and holidays are free parking and he did not care whether or not they remained free but they should be regulated to the two hour parking for on-street parking. It should eliminate non-regulated parking on Sundays and holidays except those on which stores are not open (Thanksgiving). On any Sunday one can come down to the downtown area and find the metered parking spaces filled. Hank Clark, 129 Sheridan Road, Parking Committee member~ noted that to his knowledge the Committee had corrected Mr. Soriano's concerns during their recent review of the plan. Also, he noted that membership of the Committee included representation and input from every area in Bremerton. He pointed out parking loads will be increasing in the future and two major areas need to be addressed~ enforcement and getting the publics' cooperation. He suggested a "hot line" for traffic concerns be established by the City. This would provide a source of information for someone to call in and ask questions such as "what do I do when i see an infraction",rather than calling 911. And, he also questioned where were the new parking tickets reflecting the increased parking infraction fee and changes in parking laws? Kathleen McCluske~, City Clerk, stated that the tickets have been ordered and should be available in about two weeks. She indicated ordering was delayed until it was clear as to the direction the City would be taking...whether or a hand held computer system would be obtained and that form of ticketing would be used, whether or not to change the format of the current tickets being used. Then, the City Attorney had some language changes he wanted because he felt the current tickets needed some clarification and it took awhile to sort through the options and without a dollar amount attached to the options they decided to print the tickets with minimal changes to them other than the increase in prices. Marshall Miller, Bremerton Area Chamber Of Commerce and Parking Committee member, stated the parking plan is basically a consensus of business owners, business landowners, residential landowners and others. The intent of the plan is to provide residential parking in residential areas, provide short term parking for retail businesses and provide long term commuter parking areas. The plan also suggests an increase in City meters and City lots. The City streets and parking lots are assets of the City and rent from these assets should not be subsidized, therefore, they believe the parking meters and parking lots should be at a competitive rate similar to those of private lots. The plan also eases construction requirements - smaller privately owned lots. They hope this will stimulate construction of smaller lots so that it can improve off street parking so it can eliminate some of the on street parking congestion. The Chamber of Commerce endorses the plan and it hopes its implementation will improve the looks and values of the neighborhoods, improve the short term retail parking and improve long term commuter parking facilities. Wayne Estes, 1604 Gregory Way, Parking Committee member, stated TAPE #673 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 8 of 18 basically the Parking Plan is very good but he does support Mr. Soriano in his plea for short term parking in the downtown area. If there is to be a viable downtown shopping district vehicles must be kept moving. Parking meters were established in the 1930's and the sales pitch at that time was to "keep cars moving"...it was not to make money but they soon found out it was a "gold mine" and that became the most important issue. Parking meters should be treated as a means of parking control. Don Brittin, 1520 Elizabeth Street, questioned what has the City Treasurer's office have to do with changing parking meter hours and price? He did not support taking all the 10 hour parking meters out of the central business district. He works in the shipyard and prefers to drive to work because of crime and unsafe conditions on the streets and appreciates being able to park at the 10 hour meters. Mrs. Horton stated in response to Mr. Soriano's statements, the way the 10 hour meters evolved was the Treasurer's Office (who are responsible for the meters (taking care of reconfigurating them, collecting 5he monies~ etc.) tracked the use of the meters and it was determined that they were not bringing in a reasonable amount of revenue, indicating that people were not using the two-hour meters. In Committee discussions, as well as a walk about of the whole downtown area, they felt there were areas right now that could sustain long term 10 hour meters. The idea of the whole Parking Plan is flexibility and as business comes into the downtown area then meters can be changed to provide short term parking. The Committee felt there are large stretches of areas where there are no businesses located and those would be ideal for long term downtown employee parking. In response to Mr. Soriano's second question about undercutting the City's lot by having the 10 hour meters at a reduced rate, the Committee is asking that the meters be raised back to the fair market value so there is no undercutting of the City's own lot or private enterprise. The Committee is recommending that the short term meters would remain as they are, staying the same 5 and 10 cents with the inclusion of a free zone from 1st to 9th on Pacific and Park to Washington on 4th Street and the Callow Avenue area. President Homing questioned if there was discussion for non- enforcement on Sundays? Mrs. Horton stated no, all along the comments were to keep Sunday enforcement included. ~PE #674 Mr. Collins stated he wholeheartedly concurred with the bulk of the Parking Plan and he applauded the people who worked very hard on this proposal. But, there is one specific area which he took exception to and that was the establishment of a 12 member Parking Advisory Board to deal with parking. He strongly recommended that the Advisory Board De changed to the Bremerton Transportation Commission and the reason being is that the City has many things impacting the City that are on wheels. He also believes this Commission should have all of the same stature as the Planning Commission or the Parks Board, Civil Service Commission, that they should be recommended by the Mayor and approved by the City Council. Mr. Colvin questioned if the City did have reduced rates for the 10 hour parking meters on Burwell and if they are he could not understand how the Committee could not see that this would be in error? Mrs. Horton stated one of the things this Committee is trying to do is to make sense of the parking system and that is why the recommendation in the plan is to raise long term parking meters to fair market value. Mr. Colvin questioned if Mrs. Horton believed the 10 hour meters near Pacific and Burweii belonged there? TAPE #674 City Council Reg. MtG. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 9 of 18 there? Mrs. Horton stated the basis for putting the long term meters in was that the short term meters were tracked and the Treasurer found that people were not parking at those meters under the two hour limitation. Mr. Waibel stated for clarification what is being attempted to implement is provide night parking on a long term basis and business hour parking on a short term basis. It is impossible to set up a meter to do this but it is not impossible through other technologies, such as a computer, etc. It should be stated, as direction, that we not cause those two to conflict. It makes sense to have 10 hour parking for shipyard workers during night hours but it does not make sense to have that same parking spot 10 hour during the day when a business close by is trying to operate. Mrs. Horton stated, in response to the suggestion of a ~'ransit Commission, it was felt by the Committee that in an informal setting people are more willing to air their complaints and work toward a resolution. What happens when a more formal process is established, such as a Planning Commission, people become afraid and turned off by the whole procedure. Mr. Waibel stated he did not believe it would be necessary for a City Council member to sit on that board. He supported the "informal" idea but thought having a Council member might keep people away. Mr. Collins stated one of the major things this Council has accomplished is the Zoning Ordinance, Zoning Map, Comprehensive Map, and Comprehensive Plan, which was accomplished by the Planning Commission. He believes that a Transportation Commission must have the same type of staff support as the Planning Commission, such as the Planners. Mr. Crutcher stated the Plan looks Good and he supports the 10 hour parking meters on Burweil between Park Avenue and Pacific. After several businesses closed down that were located between Park and Pacific the area turned into a "parking area", otherwise the space was not used at all. Mr. Soriano stated the 10 hour meters do not encourage new businesses to locate there and the City has to look to the future and not be short sighted today. Mr. Overson pointed out that more care should have been Given 40 years ago by downtown businesses to provide their own parking needs rather than just taking profits out of the City. He stated he could not support the staffing of the Advisory Board and suggested the wording, " and will have access to non-voting staff support from the City Treasurer ..... "and suggested the wording (on page 6 of the Plan) "Decisions regarding parking meter time changes will be made administratively by the responsible City staff and approved by the Mayor with a 10-day .... Mr. Johnson stated in regard to Sunday parking due to Seahawk Games in Seattle - that cannot happen at a max more than eight times out of 52 weeks per year. He liked the idea and philosophies that are in the plan but there are a couple fatal flaws and for that reason he may not support it: (1) he does not like the funding; (2) it sets up 24 hour day - 7 day per week enforcement as a priority for this City. When he inquired about this as to next year when drastic budget measurers and cutting back on enforcement services and letting personnel Go he was told "we really aren't Going to do that were just going to do that when the Police Chief thinks he will do it" If the plan says there will be 24 hour day - 7 days per week enforcement and the citizens are promised it will be done - then do it and fund it. If enforcement is not going to be carried out then tell them that as well. He wished the City could spend 1/2 the monies being discussed on law enforcement. He noted the City will be funding people to Give mothers tickets on Mothers' Day and Santa Clause's tickets on Christmas Eve but will not be funding Police Officers. I do appreciate the work of the Committee, there are some excellent ideas in the Plan. TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 10 of 18 Mr. Dawkins stated as a downtown businessman he has to agree with Mr. Soriano that 10 hour parking meters do not belong on the east side of Park Avenue, any where on any streets (5th, 4th and Burweli). He supported the plan overall and also supported enforcement on Sundays to protect those businesses wishing to stay open on Sundays. Mrs. Horton explained the intent of the Committee was to provide for enforcement on high peak times - shift turnovers in the shipyard. They did not ask for enforcement during the periods of time that it is known people would not be parking there. They are asking for Sunday enforcement to provide businesses in the downtown area to open if they desire to. If parking is a problem during Sundays due to Seahawk games, enforcement can be "as directed by the Police Chief" - that is why this was included. As far as the City's priorities to hire a Police Officer verses a Parking Regulator~ the number one problem Bremerton has at the moment is the decline of commercial and residential areas due to the parking problem. If the parking problem can be alleviated, there will be an increase in businesses locating in the downtown area, increased residential usage and that equates to dollars in the general fund that can be used to hire more Police protection for the community. Parking is a very big problem right now. President Homing _ stated for clarification that on Sunday enforcement this allows Sunday enforcement whenever it is necessary and questioned what happens on regular Sundays? Mrs. Horton stated they are requesting Sunday enforcement because there is a parking problem during this time. President Horning encouraged that if Sundays are to be enforced that it would include "every Sunday". Mrs. Horton noted that as the parking problem abates then people can be pulled off and tracking parking patterns would identify if the need returns to again institute enforcement. Mr. Colvin urged that any 10 hour parking meters be removed that are located east of Park Avenue. Kathleen McCluske¥, City Clerk, stated all the plan says in regard to 10 hour meters is that will be determined and brought back to the Council. The work to determine where the meters will be located ultimately has not yet been done - the plan does not specify location and it should be kept as a general statement within the plan. Mr. Overson questioned how soon would Council see the program to put 10 hour meters on Burwell? Mrs. McCluske¥ stated she believed that would be looked at with all of the downtown business district. ~ Overson pointed out those meters were changed without Council input and questioned if they can be put back as they were? Mrs. McCluskey stated the recommendation of the Committee was not to put them back to 2-hour parking until this overall review is complete and get a parking configuration of 2 and 10 hour meters in place and then make the change. How long that takes depends on how quickly this is set up. Mr. Johnson requested that they include some shorter term parking (15 - 30 minute) for corners near pharmacies, Post Office, etc. .102 M/S/C/(Horton/Waibel) to adopt the Parking Plan and to start implementation as soon as staff time allows and funding is provided through the budgetary process, including the following changes: (page 5 of Plan) "....and will have access to city staff .... "and (page 6 of Plan) "Decisions regarding parking meter time changes will be made administratively by responsible City staff and approved by the Mayor within a 10 day .... ". Vote: In Favor - Waibel, Collins, Dawkins, Colvin, Oversonr Horning, Horton Abstain - Johnson, Crutcher TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 11 of 18 182 M/S/(Horton/Colvin) to approve establishment of a Parking Advisory Board consisting of the membership as outlined in the Parking Plan. Mr. Waibel stated he would not support the motion because the Parking Advisory Board, as outlined, does not contain all the information to constitute it. He questioned if the nominee from District 3 is nominated by the Council member from that area or nominated by the Council members at large? Who nominates the member from Bremerton Main Street - Council members at large or one Council member? Until some of these questions are answered the issue of an Advisory Board should not be adopted. 300 M/S/F(Collins/Crutcher) an amendment to the motion that the Parking Advisory Board consist of nine members proposed to the Council by the Mayor and affirmed by the City Council, that it have by-laws as the Planning Commission as well as the same stature as other City Boards and Commissions and that it be a Transportation Commission that is able to deal with any transportation problem. Mr. Overson stated he did not feel a full commission would be appropriate at this time and involvement of those developing the Zoning Ordinance was done by boards made up of people from the Planning Commission and other districts plus the Errors and Corrections Board was part of that as well. Therefore, maybe this is the time to start a board and to later evolve into a Commission. President Horninq questioned how will the details be addressed? Mrs. Horton stated the Committee will develop a set of by-laws, which will be brought to the Council for adoption and at that time a Resolution on how it will be formed will be prepared. Mr. Crutcher stated he agreed with Mr. Collins because parking is not the only issue...it should include traffic, ferries and the City as a whole, and it should have the full authority similar to the Planning Commission. President Horninq questioned if the membership would operate under the same condition that it be citizens of Bremerton only? Mr. Crutcher stated yes, just like all the other Commissions unless the positions cannot be filled by residents. Mrs. Horton stated the intent of the Advisory Board was to have an informal setting where people could come and discuss their problems and try to come to an informal meeting of the minds without going through a lot of channels. The citizens still have that available to them but what is being asked for is a low-key group and to get as much citizen participation as possible. Also, she noted City Boards and Commissions go begging for participation and she did not want this one to be one of those difficult to fill. She strongly supported an "informal board" at this time and maybe long term a Transit Commission would be appropriate. Vote On Amendment In Favor: Collins, Johnson, Crutcher, Opposed: Overson, Horton, Waibel, Horning, Dawkins, Colvin Motion Failed. Mr. Waibel stated, in reference to the original motion, there is in existence an active and good committee and before an Advisory Board is adopted detailed information as to how it will be formed is necessary and can be developed by the current Parking Committee. 518 M/S/C(Waibel/Coivin) an amendment to the motion to eliminate the City Council member from the proposed membership. Mrs. Horton stated after hearing hours of testimony from the citizens she believes a Council member is vital to this board at this time. The concern that "people are not heard" has been shared and with a Council member on board that the message will filter to the Council and if later it is desired to turn it into a TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 12 of 18 Transportation Commission then she would be willing to remove the Advisory Board. Mr. Crutcher stated by doing this it would dissolve the Parking Committee because it says the Council members will appoint someone from their districts to that Committee. Mrs Horton stated.what is being asked is that the Parking Committee work in conjunction with the Parking Advisory Board. Mrs. Rorton withdrew the original motion and Mr. Colvin, as second on that motion, concurred. 627 M/S/C/(Horton/Colvin) moved to table the ParKing Advisory Boar~ portion of the Parking Plan for two weeks. Vote: In Favor: Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson, Crutcher, Horton, Waibel, Collins, Horning Opposed: Overson 8 - PUBLIC HEARING - TO ACCEPT COMMENTS AND TO CONSIDER A ZONING REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION PERTAINING TO THE ZONING OF A SINGLE LOT AT THE SE CORNER OF NINTH AND BROADWAY (SHAW ZONING REVIEW), ~AB89-263 The owners of a single lot at the southeast corner of Ninth and Broadway requested a zoning review in accordance with the "Corrections of Errors" process. The subject property is currently zoned Central Bremerton Residential (CBR) and includes a 9-unit apartment building. The Zoning Review committee conducted its review on May 30, 1989, and has forwarded its recommendation to the City Council. This public hearing is to accept additional public comments and to consider the recommendation of the Zoning Review Committee Mr. Dawkins stated he felt he must step down on this issue due to a conflict of interest. President Homing asked the "Appearance Of Fairness/Conflict Of Interest" question with ali Council members except Mr. ~awkins being seated. Ron Hough, Planning Manager, provided a view graph showing the location of the Shaw property - single lot at the southeast corner of 9th and Broadway. The property is in a residential neighborhood one block west of Warren Avenue and is zoned Central Bremerton Residential (CBR). The applicant currently has a 9-unit apartment building on the 7,436 sq. ft. lot and feels the multiple-family zoning is appropriate because he is near an MX zone. There are several apartments in the block and there is commercial zoning down the street. The subject property is located within a central Bremerton residential neighborhood. The immediate vicinity consists primarily of single-family homes with some multiple-family structures scattered throughout and a medical office structure fronting on Warren Avenue. In the Comprehensive Plan the subject property lies within an area designated "Residential, 7-15 units per acre", which is a medium density category. The single-family, duplex and CBR zoning districts are consistent with this Plan designation. Higher- density residential zones, such as the MF or MR districts allow densities higher than 15 units per acre, but may also be appropriate in some limited applications. TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 13 of 18 The previous Zoning Map shows the subject property was previously zoned "R-I", low density residential. The R-1 zone allowed single- family and duplex structures. A nine-unit apartment building would have been considered a "nonconformity" under that zoning. If the applicant's 7,400 sq. ft. lot happened to be vacant, the old R-I zoning would have allowed either a single-family or a duplex to be constructed on it. Upon adoption of the new Zoning Ordinance and Map, the subject property was included in the Central Bremerton Residential (CBR) zoning district. This zone allows single-family homes~ duplexes and triplexes, as well as a variety of small businesses and offices that are considered compatible with residential areas. The CBR zone requires a land area of at least 3,000 sq. ft. per dwelling unit. A lot of 9,000 sq. ft. or larger would be required for a triplex, 6,000 sq. ft. for a duplex, etc. The CBR zone would permit a duplex on this 7,400 sq. ft. lot but would not permit nine units. The existing building is considered a "nonconformity" in the CBR zone. That simply means that it does not conform to the current code requirements. However, it is a legal use and can remain indefinitely. It can also be repaired and modified provided additional units are not added. It can also be rebuilt after a fire, provided less than 75 percent of the structure was destroyed. Basically, the structure's nonconforming status is the same in the CBR zone as it was in the previous R-1 zone. The City does not have a zoning district that could be applied to this lot to make it totally conforming. The Zoning Review Committee reviewed this on May 30~ 1989, and they felt the neighborhood had been rezoned for CBR and the City should not create a high density plot zone for this one property nor woula it be justified to consider a larger zone include this property. Therefore, their conclusion was that there was "no error" made in the zoning of this property and the Committee's recommendation to the Council was for ~'no change" to the City Zoning map. Kathleen McCluske¥, City Clerk, read into the record a petition which was signed by 45 people who concurred with the Zoning Review Committee's recommendation. Public comment was requested - none received. Mr. Overson stated as the Errors and Correction Committee reviewed this item they could not find a basis for changing the zoning or considering the possibility that staff should have seen the need for a differen~ zoning when it was zoned. Mr. Johmson questioned if the medical facility was a also a non- conforming use? Mr. Hough stated certain non-residential uses are included in the CBR zone including office structures. .969 M/S/C/U(Crutcher/Coliins) to conform the Zoning Review Committee's conclusion that an error did not occur and make no change to the Zoning Map for the subject property. Mr. Dawkins returned to the meeting. 6C - CONSIDERATION OF ANNEXATION REQUEST: TO CONSIDER A 10~ NOTICE OF INTENT TO COMMENCE ANNEXATION, SUBMITTED BY PUGET WESTERN, INC., FOR A SINGLE PARCEL WEST OF GORST, ~AB89-26t Puget Western, Inc., has submitted a Notice Of intent~ requesting the annexation of a ten acre parcel to the City of Bremerton. The property is located west of Gorst and immediately south of SR-3. TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 14 of 18 The property abuts the City limits of Bremerton on its west side. RCW 35.13.125 requires the City to meet with the applicant and to decide whether or not to proceed with the annexation, whether to proceed with planning and zoning for the area, and to decide whether the property will assume any or all of the City's indebtedness. Ron H~u~h, Annexation Coordinator, stated the property is on the west side of the unincorporated community of Gorst, is on the south side of SR-3. The area includes one 10.11 acre parcel which abuts the City limits of Bremerton along its western edge. Most of the area east and north of the subject property is low density residential neighborhood. There are quite a few vacant lots in the area as well as a few mobile homes and a church. A ten'acre parcel to the south is wooded and not developed. To the immediate west is a 20 acre parcel that is also mostly wooded with the exception of a 2,000 sq. ft. meeting hall. This property is presently owned by the City of Bremerton but may soon be acquired by Puget Western for future expansion. The Planning Commission conducted a hearing on the land use and zoning issues on September 19, 1989, which was well attended by residents of the area. There was also input from Kitsap County Department Of Community Development - good suggestions on some options on pre-zoning and rezoning of the adjacent property. The intensity of the County's Comprehensive Plan was looked into and existing zoning in the Gorst area ... factors such as soils, slopes, access, etc., and the Planning Commission developed three motions to be presented to the City Council in the form of Resolutions. The first of the three Resolutions will deal with the Comprehensive Plan of the area...right now it is a utility surplus area and will be changed to a more developable category: the second Resolution will deal with the rezone of the City's 20 acre parcel at this location; and the third Resolution will recommend the pre-zoning of the Puget Power property upon annexation. An environmental review was conducted and a DNS was issued on September 1, 1989. Public Comment was requested - none received. Mr. Waibel questioned if the request to annex this property was initiated by the property owner? Mr. Hough stated the Notice Of Intent was signed by the property owner and he assumed it was initiated by the owner. There is an exchange of properties between the City and Puget Western and he was not sure how that requirement came about except Puget Western is interested in acquiring the property next door to it to the west which is in the City limits, which would place both properties under the same jurisdiction and under the same zoning. Mr. Johnson pointed out that maybe the boundary should be squared off and include an adjoining piece of property? President Horninq stated generally the people who own property are part of the annexation procedure and to his knowledge the owners of that piece of property had not been consulted at all. Mr. Waibel questioned we had a 10~ intent to annex would the assessed valuation of the parcel in red (shown on a view graph) constitute more than 104 of the entire parcel Mr. Johnson was addressing? Mr. Hough stated the parcel (in red) is the annexation area and constitutes one parcel. Mr. Waibel stated if it does constitutes more than 104 of that entire area it could be the first step and he felt it was worthwhile looking into the possibility as it may give the City a TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 15 of 18 better position in getting the annexation approved. Mr. Colvin questioned if Mr. Hough had inquired of the adjacent property owners if they would be amenable to annexation? Mr. Hough stated he had thought about it but after further discussion with other staff members he determined this particular property is owned by an owner who owns other forest lands, with the property not having good access, terrain is heavily forested and it did not seem to make good sense to include that for industrial purposes. He noted it may be easier to explain to the Boundary Review Board why it is best to exclude that particular piece of property than to include it. Mr. Collins requested clarification as to what was meant by land being swapped. Mr. McCluske¥, City Clerk, stated this was part of the land trade with Puget Power for the old Puget Power building on 4th Street. Mr. Sievers stated one of the conditions in the real estate agreement that Council did approve was that they would submit their property next to the piece of property they are acquiring from the City for annexation which they have complied with. The annexation does not have to go through completion; Council can deny it now and Boundary Review Board could up set the apple cart later but it does not upset the real estate exchange. 634 M/S/C(Crutcher/Dawkins) to accept Puget Western's Notice Of Intent to annex and direct staff to proceed with the next tasks needed to complete the annexation. Vote: In Favor: Overson, Crutcher, Horton, Waibel, Horning, Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson Abstained: Collins 650 M/S/C(Crutcher/Horton) request a zoning recommendation from the Planning commission for the subject site. Vote: In Favor: Overson, Crutcher, Horton, Waibel, Dawkins, Colvin~ Johnson, Horning Abstain: Collins 1668 M/S/C(Crutcher/Horton) require the applicant to assume the City's current indebtedness. Vote: In Favor: Overson, Crutcher~ Horton, WaiDei, Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson, Horning Abstain: Collins 7A - ORDINANCE (FIKST KEADING) AMENDMENTS TO UNIFORM SIGN CODE, ~AB89-262 Signs defined in Chapter 14 of the Uniform Sign Code are exempt from the building permit process by the same code. The only purpose of Chapter 14 was to define temporary signs. Recent amendments to the zoning ordinance have adequately addressed temporary signs. There is no longer a need for Chapter 14 of the Uniform Sign Code. Dick Mum%ma, Building Official, stated when the City adopted the Uniform Sign Code there was not a sign ordinance in affect at the time that clearly defined "temporary signs", however, there was a definition for temporary signs included in the Uniform Sign Code. By definition, temporary signs in the Uniform Sign Code, are exempt from the requirement of a Building Permit, so the only purpose for this Chapter was to define temporary signs. Now that the City has an ordinance that defines temporary signs, we have no need for this chapter and in fact it does present some conflict to the Zoning Ordinance definition of temporary signs. Therefore, he ecommended that Chapter 14 be deleted from the Uniform Sign Code. TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 16 of 18 Public comment was requested - none received. Mr. Johnson stated he did not remember the City's ordinance covering the cloth signs (banners) and questioned if this was covered elsewhere? Mr. M~mma stated there is some language in the current code that says a sign of any size may be installed for a period of seven days without the need for a permit in the Zoning Ordinance but it does not address the way the sign is hung. There should be other language in the Uniform Sign Code that addresses the installation of banners. Mr. Waibel stated he believed Mr. Johnson's question needs to be addressed because the Uniform Sign Code, Section 14.02 does spell out how a banner is set up, how long it can be up, how many holes have to be in the cloth~ etc., and he suggested repealing Section 14.01 but not 14.02. Mr. M,,mma stated there are sections of the Uniform Sign Code that address Chapters 25, 26, 27 and 28 of the Uniform Building Code~ which has been adopted by the City Council into the Bremerton Municipal Code and it says that wood, concrete, steel, aluminum or other members shall conform to the requirements of these chapters and those chapters deal with wind loads, seismic conditions and other structural considerations in structures and signs. Mr. Waibel questioned if this is addressing temporary signs and cloth signs? In the City's definition of temporary signs there was no identification of what constitutes a temporary cloth sign. Mr. Mumma stated that was a point well taken and he would look into that further. Mr. Johnson commented that before this comes back for second reading he would consider it an insignificant change if it was determined that all of Chapter 14 be eliminated. 994 M/S/C/(Waibel/Crutcher) to approve ordinance, on first reading to eliminating Section 14.01 of the previously adopted Uniform Sign Code so the language on the ordinance would only address Section 14.01 and not the entire Chapter. Vote: In Favor: Johnson, Dawkins, Collins, Horning, Waibel, Horton, Crutcher, Overson Abstain: Coivin 7B - ORDINANCE ~4237 {SECOND KEADING) AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF LEWD CONDUCT AND REGULATIONS OF EROTIC DANCE STUDIOS, ~AB89-215 068 M/S/C(Johnson/Horton) to pass Ordinance #4237, on second reading, amending definition of lewd conduct, and regulations of erotic dance studios~ and amending Bremerton Municipal Code 9A.44.070 and 5.96. Vote: In Favor: Overson, Crutcher, Horton, Horning, Dawkins Colvin, Opposed: Johnson, Collins, Waibel 7C - RESOLUTION ~2266, COMPREHENSIVE PARK 7 RECREATION OPEN SPACE PLAN AND C.I.P., ~AB89-264 The Bremerton Park & Recreation Department~ City staff, Bremerton area residents and the Parks & Recreation Board formed a steering committee in 1988 to complete the proposed 5 Year Comprehensive Park & Recreation Open Space Plan. The plan was created with citizen involvement through community surveys and public meetings. The plan outlines the community planning areas, existing facilities, 6 year Capital Improvement Plan, demands and needs, goals and objectives and the Action Plan. ~PE #675 Vickie Yanneman, Assistant Parks Superintendent, stated the document is the result of an 18 month long process, chiefly the TAPE #674 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 17 of 18 work of a Steering Committee and City staff. A consultant was hired last spring to complete the drawings and organize and produce the document. Without the efforts of the Steering committee, which was comprised of Parks Board members, local residents and City staff from the Planning Department as well as Parks Department, this document i its present form and with the limited funds available would not have been possible. The goal of the project was to build a plan around the recreational needs of the community and through an extensive surveying processes she believed they met that goal. This process commenced Spring of 1988 with the formation of the Steering Company and their developing two survey forms, conducting complete inventory of parks, developing the goals and objectives and determining the direction the Committee needed to take to ensure that this plan spoke to the needs of the community. During the spring and summer of 1988, surveys forms were passed out, they met with every type of group including 17 service organizations, PTA groups, Neighborhood Associations that were active at the time, BACON, a number of Bremerton High School Social Studies students, Olympic College students, etc. Over 6,000 short term surveys were mailed out in the Utility bills and asked that residents return them along with their payment. The City received back 1,304 responses to that survey. The findings and efforts were based on the input received back from the surveys. The results of both surveys were very similar - identifying three areas that the community feels should be developed: (1) more athletic fields and facilities; (2) more family oriented facilities, namely picnicking, playgrounds, passive areas; (3) increased public access to waterfront. Spring of 1989, a draft of the plan was submitted to the Flagship Subcommittee on Parks and Recreation for their review. During this spring and summer the first two drafts were presented to the Parks Board for comments and their approval. On June 27, the Parks Board held a public hearing to allow public comment on the plan. The first draft was submitted to IAC (Interagency Council) on July 14, which was reviewed and met very favorably with IAC staff. The final step in the process is the adoption of the Plan by the City Council. Mr. Overson questioned is the plan a wish list or is it a plan that identifies or recognizes that the Parks and Recreation Department will have to operate at a reduced funding situation for at least the next 5-10 years and does the plan realistically accept that? Ms. Yanneman stated that possibly the C.I.P. should be separated from the plan in addressing Mr. Overson's question. The Comprehensive Plan itself is a realistic approach to what the citizens would like to see. What has been done is to list proposed features, what could happen at each of the sites the City currently has, it does not list specific dates for development or funding sources. Mrs. Horton questioned how the priority listing of the capital improvements will be dealt with, especially in reference to funding sources? Ms. Vanneman stated it is her understanding that funding is not the only consideration when prioritizing a list of projects and when this list was compiled it included what the community would like to see developed. Mrs. Horton noted this community has a long history of rejecting Park Bonds and unless there is a Park Bond passed a lot of the items would just be a "wish list"; and this would not be concrete enough for her to base a plan for future. She would prefer to know what items are fundable, identifying those things that can happen and separate them from those that may never happen. Arvilla Ohlde, Parks Director, stated the City may come into a situation where they, as citizens, want to support the Parks system through a Park Bond issue~ those citizens can now step forward with the document as developed. And, TAPE #675 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 20, 1989 Page 18 of 18 the plan would provide a blueprint to work with if they now wanted to attach funding to those lists. The plan is not something that says that the citizens are now mandated or held to this pian...it is saying, from them these are the things we want to do, this is where we think the park system will go. if those same citizens do not feel they want to financially.support it - that is their choice. Mrs. Horton questioned if the City decides to go with a Park Bond and it fails - what happens to the Plan? Ms. Ohlde stated just funds cannot be attached to the plan, as work progresses on the blueprint it gives the staff direction. Funding may be identified from several sources. Money can't be the only reason why an area develops. Funding sources and levels are changing and right now the legislature has over 8 million dollars for off-road trail systems for motorized bikes and she does not believe the Comprehensive Plan or a plan should be written around only those areas which have funding currently available. Mr. Collins pointed out there were a number of capital improvements which were not a high dollar figure for costs and could even be developed through organizations or individuals. Mr. Waibel pointed out that the Capital Improvement Plan contains a lot of symbols which need to be identified and suggested that a legend be included. Mr. Johnson stated that it is better to have important, unfunded projects at the top of a priority list if in fact citizen need is there. And, if it has a high cost to develop then effort will be made to pursue grant funding. Ms. Ohlde pointed out that the prioritizing is used, as well as the plan, when applying for grants and 1/4 of needed points can be based on the Parks Comprehensive Plan itself. Mr. Johnson raised the question about "bike path" comments in the plan and stated he hoped duplicate effort was not being undertaken as the previous Bike Path Advisory Committee, now inactive, had developed significant plans which are still usable. In reference to lower NAD park he noted it was a beautiful plan but he was not sure if the current activities and security requirements would support those type of secluded picnic tables and benches and questioned if this had been reviewed relating to security needs? Ms. Ohlde stated no. Mr. Johnson stated in reference to upper NAD Park the plan talks about trail expansion and he hoped that would be limited to sprucing up the old trails. And~ there were three parks left out of his District and he hoped this was an oversight: (1) Kitsap Lake Park; (2) SR-3 Park; (3) Otto Jarstad Park. ~564 M/S/C/U(Waibel/Horton) to continue this item for one week. With no further business the me~ting was adjourned at 9:11 p.m.  KATHLEEN L. MCCLUSKEY, CITY CLERK c~C~ ~em~e t~n~cil President KLM/SH/me F cc: Normal Distribution File/Vault