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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/15/92TAPE #1039 ) UNAPPROVED DRAFT CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES #0015 JULY 15, 1992 The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers, 239 4TH Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, July 15, 1992, at 5:30 p.m., with Council President Lynn Horton presiding. Council members present: Richard Neville, Eileen Fitz, C. R. "Tiny" Collins, Morrie Dawkins, Russ Johnson. Council members A1 Colvin, Lon Overson and Hank Waibel were absent. Also present were City Attorney Ian Sievers and City Clerk Kathleen McCluskey. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council President Horton and Invocation given by Reverend Luther D. Perdue of Trinity Missionary Baptist Church. CONSENT AGENUA A. Minutes of Meeting - June 24, 1992 #AB92-175 M/S/C/U(Johnson/Collins) to approve Consent Agenda as presented. CLAIMS/WARRANT REGISTERS - NONE COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS Mr. Colvin stated he was pleased to be back in Bremerton after visiting San Antonio, Texas, where he attended his 52nd High School Graduation reunion. During that visit, he had the opportunity to meet the Mayor and City Council and observe the workings of their government. He was very impressed with the City's "River Park", which draws thousands of users. He extended an invitation to the Mayor and Council members to visit Bremerton and experience the beautiful northwest. Upon his return, he received a letter, which he shared with the Mayor and City Attorney, regarding a complex planned south of Sylvan Way. The concern expressed in that letter was that the road was not adequate considering the fact children currently have to walk in the roadway as they walk to school and adding to the traffic impact to that neighborhood would be detrimental unless something is done to improve the road. Mr. Collins reported on Tuesday, July 14, he and Council members Eileen Fitz, Lynn Horton and Morrie Dawkins participated in a KBRO radio round table discussion type TAPE #1039 UNAPPROVED DRAFT program. There was lots of lively discussion and he looked forward to future programs. He thanked KBRO for presenting that type of program. President Horton thanked her fellow Council members for participating in this program. She received very short notice of the scheduled program and was pleased that Council members made time in their busy schedules. Mr. Neville reported on Monday he participated in a cruise about the USS Texas, which he found very enjoyable. He extended a special "Thank You" to Captain Brennan and his crew, who were very friendly and informative. He thanked the Parks Department, Police Department and Fire Department for their part in the Bike Rodeo held on Friday, July 10. This was a great program for the youth and his son, who volunteered, also learned a lot about bike safety. He reported the Lady Eagles sponsored a Teen Dance on Friday evening which turned out to have a very low attendance. This group is willing to try putting on such an event next month and are looking for more support and participation. He hoped such an event could be coordinated with the Parks Department to help assure a bigger success next time. Mrs. Fits stated she was also glad to be back from her vacation in Albuquerque, New Mexico. While driving around that City and observing new construction, she felt they could use some type of growth management in order to stop "sprawl" and utilize the building lots that were available within the City. She also observed lots of streets torn up extending utility services to the new areas being developed. She believed someday they would find it very costly to maintain the miles and miles of utility lines. Mrs. Horton displayed a Tee Shirt bidding Roosevelt Field goodby. These tee shirts, available in a wide variety of colors, are on sale at the Parks Department and at Pop's Inn for $10.00. Mr. Collins questioned if the Parks Department would have a booth at the Farmer's Market? Vicki Vanneman, Parks and Recreation Direction, stated that was a very good question and she would look into the possibility of setting up something through the Kitsaper's Old Timers Association, who produced the shirts. There will be a booth set up during the Parks Department's week long special events for Roosevelt Field. Mrs. Horton reported she participated in a field trip with several board members of the Bremerton Housing Authority, their Director Merrill Wallace and Carol Dickinson from the City's Community Development Department. The tour included new affordable housing units in Gig Harbor, Port Orchard, Silverdale and Bremerton. These units were very nice and if these were examples of what Housing Authorities can produce she did not consider them "all bad". However, to her the rents being charged were not affordable...starting at $500/per TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page3 of 17 month and going up to about $900/per month. She believed there are lots of people in the Bremerton area who could use some type of housing less "affordable" than the units they toured. The units were very nice complexes and included economic mixes. She encouraged her fellow Council members to participate in such a tour as it was very informative. Mayor Mentor reported he attended the following events: Bike Rodeo; Tahuyah Parade; USS Texas Cruise; Vocational Skill Center Style Show; "Farewell" event for Assistant City Engineer Jan Stemkoski, who will be the new City Engineer for the City of Centralia. He reminded everyone of the Concert On The Dock on Thursday (6:00 - 7:00 PM) and Farmer's Market on the boardwalk. The next Concert In The Park will be Tuesday, July 21, 7:00 PM. President Horton reported her daughter was participating in a sculpture/pottery class at the Parks Department and she was greatly impressed with the items the young people created. She encouraged anyone who has children or even themselves to look into the summer program being offered by the Parks Department. PUBLIC RECOGNITION Betsy Harris, Bremerton Animal Control, presented the "Pet-Of- The-Week" - BLUE, a 3-yr. old neutered male Airedale mix. He is house broken and is wonderful with children. Animal Control also has lots of kittens available for adoption. Don Atkinson, Bremerton Main Street Association, reported on the tremendous response by the public to the Concerts on the Dock, Farmer's Market and general viewing of the boardwalk. The next Concert on the Dock will be held Thursday, July 16. Don Larson, 135 Rainier Avenue - President of Kitsap Driving Association, stated he was pleased to learn the City is considering artificial reefs north of the Turner Joy in lieu of mitigating on Evergreen Park. In his research on artificial reefs, the use of surplus ships or aircraft have proven to be very beneficial to sea life and provide interesting areas for scuba divers. He was not as enthusiastic about the proposal to build Bremerton's reef out of concreterubble and hoped the City would seriously consider some other type of reef structure. Chad Thomas expressed concern over the Bremerton Police Department's policy on making complaints against the police. He believes the present policy discourages people from making such complaints. He personally experienced a very lengthy TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page4 of 17 process whereby he had to wait several hours before a Police Office came in from patrol in order to take his report. He questioned why that responsible wasn't under Police administrators, who were more readily available and thereby providing citizens with better service. He urged the Council to look into the Police Department's policy. President Hotton requested Chief McNeal talk with Mr. Thomas on this issue. Vicki Vanneman, Parks and Recreation Director, announced the Fun Run held on Saturday drew 175 runners and lots of friends and families cheering them on. She expressed special "thanks" to KPS Health Plan for their corporate sponsorship amounting to $1,000; to Bremerton Central Lions Club sponsoring a pancake breakfast; Mariner Moose, who handed out awards and delighted kids and adults; to the entire staff of the Parks Department who all contributed toward its success. She announced a week long special event at Roosevelt Field, which will provide the opportunity to enjoy the field one last time before it is turned over to Olympic College. Activities will start on July 25 with an Old Timers Association softball game and festivities; July 27-28-29 is the final slow-pitch district tournament for women; July 30 a little girls fast- pitch game and men's fast-pitch Pop's Inn, which is Bremerton's premier fast-pitch team against a fine team from Olympia; July 31 starts off with an ice cream social sponsored by the Senior Center, a youth carnival between 1-3 PM, dunk tank, and at 5:30 PM the last softball game at Roosevelt Field will be the Parks and Recreation staff verses City "employee" staff. The Bremerton Central Lions Club will be supporting this event with a BBQ (5-SPM). There will be additional activities for families following the ball game at 6:30 PM, ending with a "Dance Under The Lights" before turning off the lights. Ms. Vanneman announced the "guns" on Roosevelt Field will be moved to Hal's Corner on August 3. Mr. Colvln stated he referred several complaints he received to Mayor Mentor after the Mayor indicated he wanted to receive complaints and comments from citizens. Don Larson, 135 Rainier, announced on July 16, 7:00 PM the Kitsap Dive Club will meet at Olympic College, Humanities Room 104. He invited anyone interest to attend that meeting and the guest speaker at that meeting will be Rick McNicholas, who has been working on cleaning up Sinclair Inlet Watershed. 6A - CO~D~UNITY SERVICE PROGI~,~, #AB92-176 This is a pilot project to give the Court another alternative in sentencing. People will be sentenced to community service time. TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page5 of 17 There will be three temporary part-time employees hired for coordination of the program. They will monitor the people and track the time worked. Community service work will range from helping with City department needs of minor work to clean up of streets. All work will be monitored by the coordinators. Mayor Louis Mentor explained this program was discussed about a year ago and considering the fact it costs the City $46.00 per day to keep a person in Jail, it is hoped this program will eliminate some of that jail time. This program would not include anyone who was considered "dangerous", but individuals who have social behavior problems, unlawful driving practices and outstanding tickets. It was felt the City would benefit by putting those individuals to work cleaning up and beautifying the City and assisting departments in various tasks. The City would save the $46.00 per day Jail cost and fund someone to oversee the community service workers. The program will start off on a small scale to see how it works and hopefully will develop into a full fledgod program that saves dollars and provides a service to the City. Mayor Mentor emphasized these individuals would not be replacing regular City employees, but rather doing things that are not currently being done, i.e. clean up, weeding, etc. In reference to who would be responsible for the individuals in the event they get hurt, the City would provide Labor And Industry Insurance for them. He pointed out the City is responsible if someone getting hurt in jail and must pay for medical services. He felt the City would be getting more in return for the dollars spent than if the individuals just sat in jail. He also believed the people who chose community service would benefit as well. He highly recommended that Council approve this proposal. Mr. Johnson pointed out the City would not be just as responsible as if a person was in jail. If someone was injured on the job they would be covered under L&I. But, the City's liability would be less responsible for other times like tooth aches, medical treatment and meals. He wanted to make sure this program was thoroughly thought out and coordinated through Municipal Court, Probation, that legal check- offs as to hours served was set up, that a list of jobs that qualified for this type of manning was developed. He did not want any City employees being fired to keep community service workers working. He did not have a problem if the community service worker was able to do a job that took the place of the City hiring a temporary employee, i.e. temporary laborer for the Parks Department. TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page6 of 17 Mr. Colvin stated he supported this type of program. He questioned if the individuals would have a choice of either going to jail or doing community service? Mayor Mentor stated originally he thought they did, however, the Judge can actually sentence community service. President Hotton emphasized if that individual does not perform that community service they could be sent to jail. Mayor Mentor stated hopefully the details have been worked out with the Court system and Attorney and he felt sure there would be some adjustments needed considering it is a new program. Public comment - none. Mr. Collins stated he was whole heartily and completely in favor of this program, however, he could not support this proposal at this time because there are so many things that are assumed and there is nothing that states the context of the program, how it will function, etc. He has heard staff state they will write it up after getting started. Mr. Collins felt that would not happen and had a tendency to deteriorate. If there isn't a plan to work from we don't how if anything is being accomplished. Fiscal and Budget Committee recommended a $25,000 maximum to be expended on the program but what are we going to measure this against. Currently, Council does not know how much it is costing for the people who are incarcerated as a result of Court action. He believes there has to be a written plan so that everyone knows what is being done. If staff could bring back a draft of how this whole plan is to be carried out or how it will be handled on going, he will support the proposal. He recommended delaying this item until staff brings back a plan that identifies all departments involved and how the program is to be handled. M (Collins/ ) to table this item for two weeks until staff provides a written plan and organization. Motion died for lack of a "second". Mr. Dawkins agreed that the proposal is a good program and felt the Parks Department and Street Department would be the prime users of these individuals. He supported approving the proposal at this time and allow the Police Department 30 days to put together some guidelines. Mr. Neville stated the Fiscal and Budget Committee did support appropriating $25,000 for the program, however, they also requested an on going record to show the "checks - and - balances" of the program. Staff assured the Committee they TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page7 of 17 would provide that information and the Committee assured them they would monitor their progress closely. Mr. Colvin questioned what category of infraction will this involve? Ian Sievers, City Attorney, stated it would not involve infraction as those are not jailable offenses. The only criminal misdemeanor or gross misdemeanor that the Court does not have the option for community service is for a "DWI". Mr. Colvin questioned if there was any impact if Council delayed approving this program for one week? Mayor Mentor stressed the success of the program will be determined if we can keep people out of jail and doing something for the good of the City. It will not be determined by how many streets they sweep or how many weeds they pull, but it will provide a benefit to the City as well as the individual. He was not sure how that can be identified in written formnor how it can be measured. Possibly, after the program has been underway for awhile there will be some way to judge the progress. He felt having staff spend a considerable block of time was a waste of time. He was focusing on getting the program underway on a small scale and see how it works. Mr. Collins pointed out there is not way to measure how much the program will cost or how much is being saved because every dollar spent at the Jail is in the Police budget in one "lump" sum that says "Incarceration". Mayor Mentor stated when the Judge sentences someone to community service time he could be requested to record how much jail time they would have been given in lieu of community service. Mr. Co111ns stated Mayor Mentor's last statement took up his argument because there isn't anything written down that tell us how the program can be measured. President Horton questioned if the $25,000 cap will come out of the "Incarceration" line item of the Police budget? Mayor Mentor stated yes. Mr. Collins questioned if retired City employees are used to supervise this program, is their retirement reduced by the amount they are being paid, such as Federal retirees? Mayor Mentor stated he did not believe so. Mr. Colvinquestioned if the Mayor already had someone in mind to hire to run this program? Mayor Mentor stated yes, he has three people who are willing to take on this responsibility. President Hotton stated she will support this proposal and she wanted it made clear getting weeds pulled and streets cleaned was great, but the bottom line for her was that this program had to generate at least a break even. She felt the program needed to be monitored closely and if not, there could be a TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page8 of 17 gap of dollars because Jail time was not reduced and the funds expended on the program would have to be made up somewhere. MaYor Mentor stated he and staff believe this program can save the City money and the added benefit is the clean up and beautification of the City. Mr. Collins questioned if L&I costs and safety equipment would be coming out of the $25,000? Mayor Mentor stated yes. Mrs. Fitz stated she works in the school system and is aware that many students do community service when they have been sent to Court for various reasons and this type of program works very well for them. She supports the City having a similar program. Mr. Johnson emphasized he felt the program'idea was excellent, however, he was concerned that what the City will have is three part time employees without job descriptions, operating procedures or desk guides; nor does Council know who will act as their direct supervisor. He would like to see enough guidance for those three individuals outlining basic information. He would like Council to be provided a copy of such written guidance within two weeks as an "Information Item" and an update report within one month. #2079 M/S/C(Fitz/Dawkins) to approve hiring of temporary part-time employees for monitoring and coordinating the Community Service Program with a cap of $25,000, and a written report submitted to Council as an Information Item in two weeks and an update report in one month and monthly reports thereafter. Vote on Motion: Motion carried. In Favor: Neville, Fitz, Colvin, Johnson, Horton Opposed: Collins President Hotton stated she applauded Mayor Mentor's efforts to undertake alternative methods as a cost savings measure for the City. She hoped the Mayor would find other kinds of programs that could be implemented that bring about results but costing less and are of benefit to the community. 6B - CONTRACT FOR ALS BILLING SERVICES, #AB92-177 The City has completed an RFQ process and subsequently negotiated the attached contract for ALSbilling services with Systems Design, Inc. The contract is for three years and is extendable up to 10 years. Compensation is a percentage of the amount billed. TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page9 of 17 Rich Hanna, City Treasurer, reported the City received three responses to the RFQ, which were reviewed by City staff who made a unanimous selection of Systems Design as the most qualified firm based on the responses received. Following that process, A1 Duke, Medical Officer of the Fire Department, and he entered into a period of negotiations which resulted in the proposed contract. A three-year time period for the contract is proposed with the possibility for extensions. The only significant change from the previous contract was to specifically reserved the right to renegotiate the percentage of the gross billings that would be due to the contractor in the event of a rate change for ALS services. President Hortonquestioned how the proposed contract compared with the current contract? Mr. Hanna stated the percentage of gross billings was the same...providing 4 1/2 years where the same percentage has been in effect. Mr. Dawkins questioned if this firm had a Bremerton Business License? Mr. Hanna stated the firmalready was licensed under the City. #2421 #2488 Public comment - none. M/S/C(Johnson/Colvin) to authorize the Mayor to sign the contract for ALS billing services. Vote on motion: In Favor: Johnson, Colvin, Collins, Horton, Fitz, Neville Opposed: Dawkins 7A - ORDINANCE NO. 4381 (SECOND READING) AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MRP OF THE CITY OF BREMERTON FOR PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH OF PEARL STREET AND WEST OF WHEATON WAY (SETTERLUND REZONE), #AB92-169 Public comment - none. Mr. Neville reaffirmed his opposition to this proposal based on the fact there is no transition between General Business and residential district and preferred to see some other type of zoning. Also, the City street is not up to General Business standards. Mr. Collins stated he echoed Mr. Neville's position and considered it to be a "spot" zone. M/S/C(Dawkins/Colvin) to pass Ordinance #4381, on second reading, amending the Official Zoning Map of the City of #2566 TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Pagel0 of 17 Bremerton for property located north of Pearl Street and west of Wheaton Way (Setterlund Rezone). Vote on motion: Motion carried. In Favor: Dawkins, Colvin, Fitz, Horton Opposed: Collins, Neville Abstain: Johnson 7B - ORDINANCE NO. 4382 (SECOND READING) AMENDING THE 1992 BUDGET, #AB92-174 Public comment - none. M/S/C/U(Johnson/Fitz) to pass Ordinance #4382, on second reading, amending the City's 1992 budget. 8A - PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT - TO CONSIDER A REOUEST TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM LOW- TO-HIGH DENSITY ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF RIDDELL ROAD WEST OF THE PRESENT CITY LIMITS; APPLICANT: IRVIN PARKHURST, #AB92-178 This proposed Amendment to the City's Comprehensive Plan Map was initiated by Irvin Parkhurst, the owner of property on the south side of Riddell Road, west of the City limits. The Study Area included both sides of the Riddell corridor and extended beyond Pine Road. Mr. Parkhurst would like to construct a 70-unit apartment complex on his property. The Kitsap County Comprehensive Plan allows up to 30 DU/Ac. but the City's Plan allows 0-7 DU/Ac. Although Mr. Parkhust has already received a rezone and PUD approval from the County, he can't build because Bremerton provides water service to this area and, since the proposal President Hotton asked the "Appearance Of Fairness/Conflict Of Interest" question with all Council members being seated. Ron Hough, Planning Manager, stated this was a type of growth management issue - an area outside the City limits but within the Comprehensive Planning area. Mr. Parkhurst owns a four- acre parcel located just outside the City limits and is in the County's Comprehensive Plan designation as "Semi-Urban", which allows 30 units per acre and is zoned R-5, allowing five units per acre. The City's Comprehensive Plan beyond City limits in the subject area is designated low density, up to 7 units per acre. When Mr. Parkhurst initiated development plans on his property in the County's jurisdiction in accordance with the County's Plan, everything was fine and the County processed his Planned Unit Development (PUD) by approving the PUD, approving the apartment complex and rezoned the property to R-18. TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Pagell of 17 The City has a fairly recent official policy not extending City utility services beyond the City limits to projects not in compliance with the City's Comprehensive Plan. This project being a high density residential development in an area where the City is planning for low density residential results in a conflict, so water service could not be extended to the subject site. Mr. Parkhurst found himself in a dilemma and could do the following: (1) down size his property to seven units per acre instead of 18; (2) find another source of water; (3) ask the City for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment. Since the County had already planned that area for up to 30 units per acre they felt it was a good place to put higher density residential and they approved his project as well as several other projects. Mr. Parkhurst felt this was a realistic proposal to ask the City to bring its Comprehensive Plan up in density and into conformance with the County's so both entities would be "playing on the same game board". When considering Comprehensive PlanAmendments, the City does not do comprehensive planning for one lot at time but rather larger areas. So, it was decided to look at the entire corridor between the City Limits and Pine Road (also a little farther than Pine Road to the west) and north and south of Riddell Road. The original study area was expanded and notification was sent out to property owners within a radius of 300 feet inviting them to a neighborhood meeting. Mr. Hough believed all of the residents directly affected by the proposal were County residents. A neighborhood meeting was held May 14, at the Sheridan Community Center, where the affected residents voiced their concerns (approximately 10 people). Their main concerns related to traffic on Riddel Road and its condition, noise, additional high density development north of David Drive, which is a low density subdivision; property values; possibly increasing property values and increase taxes. He noted the area within the City Limits of the designated area is mostly commercial development. He pointed out toward the north there is a fair sized hill which acts as a good break between commercial and residential uses. It was felt that "commercial" should stay within the City and around the Wheaton Way corridor and not extending over to the Pine Road corridor. The City's current Comprehensive Plan shows the subject area as low density residential. When this plan was adopted in 1986, apparently the City felt that area would be suburbs and developed as single family subdivisions. What has happened is the development of 4-5 parcels in to PUD's to develop apartments. The result of that is increased traffic and Riddell Road becoming a more intense corridor. The City does TAPE #1039 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Pagel2 of 17 not have control over most of that traffic since it is coming from beyond City Limits. Through this process, the Planning Commission looked at several alternatives: (1) went well beyond Pine Road to look at larger vacant pieces of property; (2) looked to the north side of Riddell at large parcels who might someday develop retirement homes, etc.. Since this area is all identified in the County's Comprehensive Plan for up to 30 units per acre and a different water system serves everything north of Riddell, it may not be as critical issue on the north side. It is, however, a critical issue on the south side because that is the side the City's utility serves. The issue here is not so much the utility issue but the Comprehensive Planning issue as to what exactly does the City want to happen along the Riddell corridor. Is this area suitable for higher density or should it be kept low density residential single family basis and let the traffic increase and see if it develops in that way. After the Planning Commission reviewed all the information, they felt that it was a good corridor to have high density due to the easy access into the City, shopping, etc. And, that it was a good place to have higher density to back up to the single family residential to the south; and it does not directly front other low density residential developments. Therefore, the Planning Commission conclusion was to recommend the approval of a Comprehensive PlanAmendment to increase the residential density from low to high on this corridor from the City Limits westward to Pine Road (not beyond Pine Road nor north of Riddell). Mr. Hough read into the record a letter received from Ron Ross supporting the proposed Comprehensive Plan Amendment. Mr. Ross felt in view of the Growth Management Act, it would seem almost necessary to zone the entire undeveloped area of the City to medium or high density. TAPE #1040 Irvin Parkhurst, applicant, stated previously he thought North Perry Water District served his property, however, they were limited to serving just north of the subject site. When he learned this, he had to come to the City to request hooking up to the City's water utility. His development will be serviced by the Kitsap County Sewer District. He believed Mr. Hough had presented his request and did not have any additional information to present. Mel Case, affected property owner, stated he was opposed to this proposal. He hears people talking about the traffic TAPE #1040 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page 13 of 17 problem in that area, however, neither the County nor the City are addressing that issue. If Mr. Parkhurst's project is built it would put approximately 100 more vehicles in that area. He did not like the idea of increased density, but his biggest problem had to do with safety. He has observed lots of children walking to school, who have to walk along the roadway since there are no sidewalks. Currently, his wife walks down to the shopping center and has great concern for her safety due to the volume of traffic. Mr. Johnson stated he believed Mr. Hough was correct when he said this was a "growth management" issue, however, he did not present any of the growth management issues in his presentation. As he understands growth management, utilities are suppose to come from cities and cities are suppose to be ringed by some type of buffer, which means it is suppose to get less and less. The only way the City could do that and accommodate this proposal is if the City boundaries were well beyond Riddell - which is not thought well of by the County. The County's Comprehensive Plan is just the opposite and they have acted to ring the City with extremely high density and high commercial development. He questioned if there is an Annexation Agreement part of this proposal? Bill Dully, Utilities Director, stated generally there is such an agreement on all situations such as this. However, he believed Mr. Parkhurst may have applied for availability of water predating some of the City's more recent ordinance changes. He will have to review that and did not have a specific answer at this time. Mr. Johnson stated if that area is to remain outside the City Limits and growth management states the County will have a buffer around the City, he will not support this proposal. Mr. Colvin suggested delaying this item in order to give Mr. Duffy time to present his response. He pointed out that the County was responsible for increasing the density in the subject area, not the City. He also believed attention needed to be given the issue of sidewalks and the lack thereof. Mr. Duffy emphasized at this time the focus needed to be on planning beyond the corporate City Limits. Whether or not Mr. Parkhurst is required to have an Annexation Agreement or not is strictly a technicality with respect to the time he applied for his availability of water. If that is not the case and he is not required to have one, the City really needs to consider the whole area and other parcels so that the City is prepared if the situation arises again. President Hotton questioned the meaning of "availability"? Mr. Duffv explained the property has petitioned the Utility TAPE #1040 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page 14 of 17 for availability of service - a written letter making a promise that service would be available to him when he developed his plans under certain conditions of flow and pressure. Since that time, the City has added conditions, i.e., street standards and Comprehensive Plan compliance. There have been cases that have been grandfathered in prior to the City's new ordinances. President Horton stated at the time the Utility sent a letter of availability that area was designated single family in the City's Comprehensive Plan and now Council is being asked to change that Plan and a change would negate prior agreements. Mr. Duff~ stated no, at that time the City did not have a Comprehensive Plan compliance requirement and he did issue a letter stating for that parcel water was available. Mr. Co111ns stated he had a hard spot with Riddell and Pine Road conditions not having changed since the shopping center was a dairy and the church was an apple orchard. He acknowledged neighbors in that area are concerned with traffic problems but no one is addressing that issue. He believed Mr. Parkhurst's development was good and located in a fine place, but he could not in good conscious support increasing the density in that area without some type of improvement being made to Pine and Riddell Roads. Mrs. Fitz stated the City had previously visited an issue were the County had approved a project right on the City's border. She questioned if there was anyone in the City talking with the County in order to come to some kind of mutual understanding of what is satisfactory for the City and satisfactory for the County? Mr. Hough stated yes, to some extent. For the past several years the County and City have been exchanging project proposals located along borders. Typically, they comment on issues like traffic, streets, lack of sidewalks, etc. Because it is in the County jurisdiction, they can accept the City's comments and do something with them or simply reject them. So, in some cases changes are made and not in other cases. We are entering a phase of growth management and within the next year or two the City and County will be developing largely new Comprehensive Plans and Urban Growth Management Agreements that will allow better coordination of such proposals. In reference to road conditions, the City is allowing projects along roads that are sub-standard. The staff report does say that Riddell Road is a sub-standard road, i.e., lacks sidewalks, curbs, gutters, not proper width, etc. The County has made improvements at the intersections of Pine Road and Riddell Road and Wheaton Way and Riddell Road. He noted a two lane road can handle a lot of traffic. President Hotton raised the issue of TAPE #1040 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page 15 of 17 concurrency - she knows people are trying to do away with the word "concurrency" or to "soft peddle" it, but the fact is this is an area that does need upgrading and she believed the County had passed interim impact fees, which are to be used for roads and parks. She did not know if that was something Council could address at this time, but if there are impact fees on this project and the County is going to demand their participation in a L.I.D. or to develop sidewalks, that may help Council's decision. Mr. Houqh stated he had no idea if the County was intending to improve the road. President Hotton raised thequestion shouldn't that matter and shouldn't Council be discussing that issue? Mr. Johnson stated absolutely. President Hotton stated she felt the subject area was good for high density due to it being on two thoroughfares that are serviced readily by transit and commercial. Those are the things that make high density ideal in an area and acts as a buffer for single family residential neighborhoods. But, without Council knowing if that area will be improved it is difficult to make a change to the City's Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Hough stated transportation and land use will flow together in the Comprehensive plan, but right now they don't because they are dealing only with the land use issue on the Comprehensive Plan and this is a Map Amendment request and transportation is a separate element of the plan. There are also other elements that need to be coordinated. He pointed out Perry Avenue, Riddell Road, Sylvan Way and Pine Road are all sub-standard streets and if there is no development approved along those streets until they are improved, the City will never get anywhere. President Hotton stated the City of Poulsbo requires developments come up to their standards, i.e. sidewalks, curbs, gutters, etc., before they permit extensions of their utilities. That may be something the City may want to start considering. Mr. Colvin stated he had not heard Mr. Hough state there are no plans for any sidewalks. Mr. Hough stated there are no plans for a sidewalk. President Hotton questioned Mr. Parkhurst if he was being charged for impact fees? Mr. Parkhurst stated at this time he did not know. At this point he has not submitted plans for the buildings due to having to pass the City's Comprehensive Plan Amendment process first. If he cannot obtain water for his development, he is not spending $200,000 on a set of plans. President Hotton pointed out obtaining water may solve his immediate problem, but it will not solve the overall problem how the City takes care of the infrastructure as developments are established. Mr. Parkhurst pointed out there is a dental clinic being built very near his property and he TAPE #1040 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page 16 of 17 questioned what plans were made for them to put in sidewalks or make upgrades to the road? President Hortonquestioned the source of water utility for the dental clinic? Mr. Dully stated he has noticed the building going up and as of this date had not been contacted about providing water service. President Hotton stated if the dental clinic is being built in a location designated as a residential area, they would have to come to the City. She questioned if they could sink a well? Mr. Dully stated that site still resides in the County. In all of these, the City is attempting to get the Comprehensive Plan up-to-date so we can respond to such requests. President Hotton pointed out the dental clinic is on the City's side of Riddell Road. Mr. Duffy stressed it was still in the County and if they request water service from the City they will have to comply with the Planned Use Comprehensive Plan. If this proposal is not passed at this time, he expects Council would have to go through the same process for the dental clinic project. President Hotton noted all of this comes "after-the-fact" and for us not to accept them as a Comprehensive Plan change they either sink a well or obtain a signed agreement from the City that they could obtain water service from North Perry Water District. Mr. Duffv stated they may very well not get water from Bremerton. He stressed that development could not obtain water service from North Perry Water District because of an exclusive franchise for that area and there is a boundary agreement with North Perry where the City serves south of Riddell Road and west of Pine and they serve north of Riddell and east of Pine. Mr. Dawkins stated he noted the conclusions from the Planning Commission include many of the issues Council has been discussing. They note Riddell is an arterial road, currently a two lane road, and was expected to be improve eventually. Mr. Duffy stated we need to get the Comprehensive Plan up-to- date for all areas surrounding the City so that when the public requests service they can be given good answers as to what they can and cannot do. President Hotton suggested tabling this item until questions could be answered. Mrs. Fitz stated long- term very important decisions have to be made about the roads and sidewalks. She agreed it needed to be tabled for a week in order to get some answers. Mr. Parkhurst expressed concern over any lengthy delay as it may result in his losing his financing. He questioned if approval is given and the project is built and the County #0742 i TAPE #1040 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes July 15, 1992 Page 17 of 17 decides to change Riddell Road wouldn't they assess the property owners that live on that road? President Hotton stated not necessarily. M/S/C/U(Johnson/Colvin) to continue this item for one week. With no further business meeting adjourned at 7:35 p.m. KATH McCLUSKE~Y, City Clerk LYN~HORT6N, Council President City of Bremerton KLM/LH/me cc: Normal Distribution File/Vault