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CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
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JULY 29, 1992
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers,
239 4TH Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, July 29,
1992, at 5:30 p.m., with Council President Lynn Horton
presiding. Council members present: Lon Overson, Richard
Neville, Eileen Fitz, Hank Waibel, C. R. "Tiny" Collins,
Morrie Dawkins, A1 Colvin and Russ Johnson. Also present were
Acting City Attorney Leila Mills and City Clerk Kathleen
McCluskey.
The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by
Council President Horton and Invocation given by Reverend Gary
Fogelquist of the Seventh Day Adventist Church.
President Hotton announced Agenda Item 7D was pulled for one
week; and Council will adjourn to a Study Session immediately
following the Council meetin~ where Cecil McConnell will make
a presentation on a "change in the form of government".
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Minutes of Meeting - July 15, 1992
#AB92-185
B. Bid Award Recommendation - Ductile Iron Pipe
Awarded to U.S. Pipe & Foundry Company As Per
Unit Prices Stated In Bid Tabulation
#AB92-186
M/S/C/U(Waibel/Dawkins) to approve Consent Agenda as
presented.
CLAIMS/WARRANT REGISTERS
Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as
required by RCW 42.24.080, and those expense reimbursement
claims certified as required by RCW 42.24.090, have been
recorded on a listing that had been made available to the
council.
M/S/C/U(Overson/Colvin) on July 29, 1992, the Council does
approve for payment those vouchers included and further
described as follows: 153695 - 153698, 153702, 153869 through
154185 in the total amount of $1,335,757.11; and asked that
several checks, as outlined on the printout, be clarified by
the City Clerk; and Retirees Payroll for the period ending
July 31, 1992, in the amount of $89,992.09.
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COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT8
Mr. Colvin thanked President Horton for encouraging him to go
on the NIMITZ Cruise, held July 28. He expounded on how well
everyone was treated on that cruise, how courteous the crew
members were and how thrilled they all were with flight
operations landing and taking off of aircraft.
Mr. Dawkins reminded everyone of the upcoming Kitsap County
Fair - Swine & Roses.
Mr. Collins reported he delivered flyers to residents in the
Montgomery/Callow area announcing a meeting between the U.S.
Navy and affected property owners in the Callow/Montgomery
area. This meeting is scheduled for August 11, 1992, 7:00
P.M., in the City Council Chambers.
Mr. Overson stated he was glad to see progress being made to
connect the Turner Joy to the boardwalk.
Mrs. Fitz echoed Mr. Colvin's comments about the USS NIMITZ
cruise. She was very impressed with the young crew members
manning the flight deck and recovery of the aircraft. Three
different types of aircraft were landed on the ship. She
thanked the Captain and crew of the USS NIMITZ for a great
trip. Mr. Colvinreported they had an emergency on board the
ship that day, a lady went into "labor", which necessitated
the crew members to clear an area to handle the emergency. He
noted this was one instance where the young crew members were
not quite sure how to handle that situation.
Mrs. Hotton reported on a meeting on held Monday evening at
the County Fairgrounds and convened by the Kitsap County
Commissioners, to discuss policy issues for growth management.
Responses from people attending that meeting indicated it
turned into a "city bashing" and primarily a "Bremerton City
bashing". She felt that was totally uncalled for and it did
more to damage relations between the County and cities.
Growth issues could have been handled in a way to take the
animosities out of annexation...that did not occur. She
believes the County is perpetuating the issue and animosities
and at some point that must stop.
Mayor Louis Mentor made the following report on the 1992
budget, in response to President Horton's request for a
detailed solution to financial issues needing to be resolved:
The adopted 1992 budget calls for General Fund Revenues of
$18,397,412 and General Fund Expenses of $18,361,084, for an
ending cash balance of $36,508. In January it was realized
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the City would lose approximately $120,000 because of low
interest rates. In addition to scaling back travel, capital
expenditures and hiring, the administration has aggressively
pursued other sources of revenue and efficiencies that will
bring some immediate benefit in 1992 and increased benefits in
1993 and beyond.
After six months of actual operating, it is predicted the City
will end 1992 at a deficit of $18,426 instead of a surplus of
$36,508. On the surface this appears to be a $54,754
shortfall.
Due to significant spending restraints by the Administration
and departments, a savings of $208,381 in salaries is expected
by year end, most of which will be realized in the second half
of the year. This well turn $18,246 deficit into a $115,927
surplus.
In addition to those funds, Mayor Mentor provided a breakdown
of four additional funding sources for 1992, two of which have
already been implemented (community services program and
changes in the Probation System - $23,000 cost savings). The
other two programs to be presented to Council involve a gross
receipts tax on parking and providing a portion of the Public
Defender work in-house. Projected additional revenues in 1992
for those two programs amount to $52,000. These four programs
will help the 1992 budget by approximately $75,000, which
coupled to the savings previously mentioned of $115,927 gives
the City an estimated ending cash total of $190,927 for 1992,
that is up $154,419 from the budgeted ending cash of $36,508.
Projected revenue growth/savings of $75,000 in 1992 and
$483,000 in 1993 fall within six areas: 1) Implementation of
a gross receipts tax of 12% on parking (use of these funds
being limited to transportation issues); 2) community service
in lieu of jail time; 3) fleet garage to in-house operations;
4) increase fees and collections efforts in probation while
reducing staff; 5) in-house public defender; 6) increase ALS
transport fees.
Cost savings attributed to not filling vacant positions
amounts to $208,381 in 1992, and $369,065 in 1993.
When the cost of boardwalk mitigation is confirmed, the Mayor
will suggest that funding be obtained from Golf Course revenue
and Real Estate Excise Tax. Golf Course profits are currently
used for Parks Department projects and using this source of
funds would not jeopardize the construction of the additional
eighteen holes.
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At this time, the Mayor projects a cash surplus of $190,927
for December 31, 1992. He wishes it could be more, but due to
inflationary costs f doing business combined with a nationwide
recessionary spending mode, this is a "best" estimate.
PUBLIC RECOGNITION
Betsy Harris, Bremerton Animal Control Officer, presented the
,,pet-Of-the-week"...Charlie, a three month old male puppy,
possibly an english sheep dog/bearded collie(?). She noted he
is well behaved and is good with children.
Robert A. Ackerman, 3706 Arsenal Way, expressed concern over
large potholes and worn off pavement on llth Street, 6th
Street and Kitsap Way. He questioned if the City had enough
money in the 1992 budget to fix some of these roads? He also
raised a concern that he had spoken about previously, about
moving the yellow line over two feet on Preble Street so
vehicles do not have to cross the yellow line while traveling
down that street.
Floyd Kern, 320 White Pine Drive, expressed his displeasure
over the recent rock concert held at the Kitsap County
Fairgrounds. He had the opportunity to view the area where
the rock concert was held the following day and observed a
tremendous amount of garbage, needles, crack cocaine, tubes,
and marijuana littered all over the place. He was concerned
that a second concert was scheduled for August 8. Mr. Kern
seemed to believe that the City had some authority to stop
this type of event. President Hotton explained to Mr. Kern
that function was sanctioned and approved by the Kitsap County
Commissioners and not held within City limits and the City had
nothing to do with the event in any way. Mr. Kern stated he
realized that, but he wanted to ask the question ..."can't we,
County residents, do something to stop such an activity from
happening again"? He noted Mayor Mentor included a statement
on the Water billing asking residents if they would be willing
to pay an additional $30/per year on their water bill to help
fight crime. He believed rock concerts brought in more drug
dealers and impacted our young people in a very negative way.
He hoped there was someone in the City or County who could put
a stop to such events in the future. President Hotton stated
she believed Mr. Kern's best avenue was to go to the Kitsap
County Commissioners with his concern.
Del Knauss, Olympic Avenue, raised the following questions:
(1) why is the first thing to be cut in the budget is "parks"?
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(2) How did the Mayor fund the purchase of his new City
vehicle after the City Council denied his request?
(3) Why on 6-12-92, 2:00 PM was a City of Bremerton vehicle
license #11080D, parked at the State Liquor Store on Callow
Avenue with Mayor Mentor inside the store? He expressed
concern over a City vehicle being used for non-City business.
(4) Did the City dedicate the proceeds from the sale of
Roosevelt Field to support the Pendergast Regional Fund, as
stated in the Environmental Check List? To his knowledge, no
action dedicating such proceeds had been taken. President
Hotton stated the City's $500,000 contribution toward the
Pendergast Regional Park came from either Hotel/Motel Tax or
Real Estate Excise Tax. She assured him Council had not
addressed distribution of proceeds from the Bremerton Lumber
site.
(5) Why doesn't the City go city-wide with 2-hour parking
rather than posting it section-by-section? City residents can
obtain two unrestricted time parking stickers per household
and that would stop shifting commuter vehicles from area to
another and force them into commercial lots.
(6) Who will pay for the hotel/motel/convention center
feasibility study for the Bremerton Lumber site? Does it come
out of the funds gained by the City from the existing parking
lot at that site once the property trade is complete?
President Hotton stated Council has not specifically addressed
the source of funding although it will be a cooperative effort
between public and private ventures. The City's share of the
cost of that study may come from revenue earned from parking
on that site. Mr. Knauss questioned if the City would be in
violation of Ordinance No. 4320 if funds from the parking
revenue was utilized for the study?
(7) Is the City in violation of its own Zoning Ordinance
allowing an Espresso Cart to lease two parking spaces in a
City parking lots?
(8) Everyone has been working to improve downtown...Admiral
Theater, waterfront boardwalk, etc. He felt it was time for
the downtown business people to take over downtown and the
City direct itself back into the neighborhoods.
President Hotton stated she would provide a written response
to Mr. Knauss's questions.
Cecil McConne11, Almira Drive, stated "I'm back"!
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6A - POLICE DEP~RTMENTeS COMMUNITY SERVICE PROGRAM, #AB92-187
On July 15, 1992, the City Council approved establishment of
a Community Service Program by the Bremerton Police
Department, with a funding cap of $25,000 per year. As part
of that approval, written guidelines and organizational
structure information for this program was requested to be
presented at the July 29th City Council meeting as an
"Information Item".
The attached information outlines the intent of the program,
organizational responsibility, and goals and objectives.
Mayor Mentor stated the documentation included in the Council
Agenda packet covered the guidelines and goals of the
Community Service Program. He had nothing further to add and
would standby for any questions. He noted the program just
started this date and provided for four individuals performing
community service type tasks.
Mr. Collins questioned if something had been done to determine
the man days or nights of incarceration so there is a
separation between the Police Department and the Courts?
Mayor Hentot stated they would be keeping track of how many
people are being sentenced to Community Service verses days
they would be spending in jail. Mr. Collins emphasized
Council needs to know how much it is costing for the Police,
when they incarcerate someone and we need to know how much the
Courts are costing and then the amount of funds being saved by
having the Community Service program. Mayor Mentor emphasized
the cost of the Court won't change - instead of sentencing
someone to three days in jail they would be sentenced to some
Community Service time. Mr. Collins stressed what is needed
is to accumulate...so many people on community service
multiplied by $46.00 per day is a known factor, but what isn't
known is how much it costs for the Courts, for people who are
put into incarceration by the Court nor how much it costs for
people being incarcerated by the Police Officers. Mayor
Mentor stated statistical information can be broken out as
suggested by Mr. Collins, however, that had nothing to do with
the Community Service program. President Hortonquestioned if
Mr. Collins was asking when the Court sentences someone how
much the Court involvement costs? Mr. Collins states yes -he
wants to know how many people the Courts are putting into
jail. He wants to know it by different identities. Mayor
Mentor stated he would meet with Mr. Collins later to get
clarification as to what he is wanting as far as statistical
information.
Mr. Waibel stated it is easier to skip out on community
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service than to skip out of jail. If someone skips out of
community service, they would go back to the Courts and the
City may save significant amount in terms of jail costs but
may have a slight increase in Court time. He questioned the
type of work to be taken on by the community service workers?
In two places in the supporting information it states "other
work assignments may be used as appropriate and whenever a
project is requested within the bounds". He was concerned
that there is no real definition what those bounds are, but it
does say it should not involve special equipment. He felt the
area of jobs should be more clearly defined before the
coordinators are asked to make those decisions.
President Hotton stated when the Mayor comes back with update
information she would like a sense of whether or not the
people on community service are actually doing their job. She
believes this program could be valuable beyond keeping people
out of jail in that a lot of people have never had to work
before and do not know how to work, which is part of the
problem. She views this as an opportunity for someone to
develop skills and experience, even at a menial level, that
would help them to get a job and in the long run turn out to
be a preventative method. Mayor Mentor stated he did not know
that people will be trained, however, hopefully getting people
actively involved may help them develop some self-worth and
can contribute to society.
Mr. Johnson stated he believed the Mayor was on the "right
track" with this program. He questioned if the Court would
segregate information as to what the jail time would have been
if community service had not been available? Mayor Mentor
stated he would try to keep track of as much data as possible
to monitor the program. Mr. Johnson felt that information
would be important at the time of final evaluation of the
program.
Mr. Overson stated it was his understanding the City use to
have a community service program and that it stopped because
of some quasi legalities and questions over some of the
projects? Mayor Mentor pointed out other areas, such as
Kitsap County, have community service programs. He was not
aware of what happened in the past. Mr. Overson questioned
who was the actual coordinator of this program? Mayor Mentor
explained the program falls under the Police Chief and it is
administered by a retired Police officer along with two
retired City employees. Mr. Overson stated the document
provided did not give a great amount of detail on projects
selected. Apparently, there is a proposal for departments to
submit projects and then it would be up to the coordinator to
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either select or reject proposed projects. Mayor Mentor
stated first he plans on keeping everything simple and tasks
will be limited to clean up activities throughout the City.
Mr. Overson pointed out a current City ordinance states City
businesses are responsible for cleaning up in front of their
own area. Mayor Mentor also pointed out that ordinance states
City residents are responsible for cleaning up to the side of
the street, however, that is not always done. Mr. Overson
stated he hoped there would not be a problem with "menial
labor" complaints. Mayor Mentor reaffirmed other areas have
similar programs that are working.
7A - APPOINTMENT TO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION -- CAROL
JOHNSON, #AB92-188
There is a vacancy on the Parks & Recreation Commission and I
recommend it be filled by Carol Johnson.
Mayor Mentor stated Carol has been very active in sports in
the community for quite a long time and serves on the Andy
Pendergast Committee. She has been active in the women's
soccer program at the State level and recently put together a
soccer program for the Parks Department. He felt Carol had
lots to contribute to the Parks and Recreation Commission and
urged Council to confirm her appointment.
Mr. Neville reported he had worked with Carol and found her to
be a very hard working, energetic, hands on person. He felt
Carol would be a welcome addition to the Parks and Recreation
Commission. He also pointed out even after Carol's
appointment the. Commission would be one member short. He
urged citizens to come forward and fill out an application for
that position.
Public comment - none.
#1435
M/S/C/U(Waibel/Colvin) to confirm the appointment of Carol
Johnson to the Parks and Recreation Commission.
7B - AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN CONSERVATION GRANT AGREEMENTWHICH
WILL UPGRADE LIGHTING AT LIONS FIELD #2, #AR92-189
This Puget Power Conservation Grant will assist the Parks and
Recreation Department in the completion of the Field lighting
renovation project at Lions Field. The lighting retrofit on
Field #1 was completed in May of this year at a cost of
$19,252.21. With the $5,737.22 reimbursement from Puget
Power, the City's total project expenditure was reduced to
$13,514.99. A similar savings is expected on the second
portion of this project.
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Vloki Vanneman, Parks and Recreation Director, reported
earlier this year Council authorized the City to proceed with
the Conservation Grant with Puget Power to upgrade lighting on
Lions Field #1. She had planned to upgrade Lions Field #2 at
the end of the softball season in October, however, at this
time there is a window of opportunity in early August to
complete Field #2. The upgrading work would be completed in
time for the co-ed season, which starts in August and ends the
end of September. She has already checked on availability of
fixtures, Communications Department staff to do the work, the
boom truck and Puget Power for this project. She noted one
citizen has commented that one of the new light fixtures in
Field #1 is poorly aimed and causing some problems on her
street in west Bremerton, across the water from Field #1.
Many good comments have been given by neighbors nearby the
field. She will look into the complaint about the miss-aimed
light. The proposed project is budgeted out of the Athletic
Fund (107) and is not a General Fund expenditure. The actual
source of funding for both of the projects have been team fees
and player fees.
Mr. Waibel also pointed out the City was not only getting the
grant to offset the cost of renovation, but also the cost
savings in energy savings. Ms. Vanneman stated had the
project waited until October, there would have been some cost
savings history from Field #1, with the replacement of 196
fixtures with 32 fixtures.
Mr. Neville stated he has heard from the players that they are
really happy with the new lighting system.
Mr. Dawkins questioned if the upgrading of lights on Field #2
will allow for a few more games prior to the rainy season?
Ms. Vanneman stated the potential is there for the same number
of games, however, the players will not have to wear their
batting helmets out in the outfield to prevent being hit.
Public comment - none.
#1667
M/S/C/U(Waibel/Fitz) to approve signature of the Conservation
Grant Agreement with Puget Power.
Mr. Overson questioned what would be done with the old light
fixtures once they are replaced. Ms. Vanneman explained the
fixtures that are still functioning will be retained as
replacements parts for lighting on two youth fields - Manette
and Warren Avenue as well as the tennis courts at Lions Field.
Mr. Overson questioned if it was planned to upgrade the
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remaining field areas with the energy efficient lighting? Ms.
Vanneman stated it was their intent to proceed as is
affordable to relight to a more efficient system all of the
lighted facilities in the Parks system. That proposal is
noted in the Parks Comprehensive Plan.
7C - TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR DWI TASK FORCE, #AB92-190
The three year grant from Federal Highway Safety funds for the
DWI Task Force terminates September 30, 1992. It appears a
Washington Traffic Safety Commission grant will be available
in the amount of $17,000 for the period October 1, 1992 to
June 30, 1993. This grant must be matched by $2,000 from each
of the cities and the county. Council Committees indicated
support for the DWI Task Force program but prefer to consider
the City's contribution during the budget.
Our current Traffic Safety Coordinator is leaving the program
at the end of July. Approval to hire a temporary employee,
Mr. Lester Pope, through September 30, 1992 is requested. Mr.
Pope comes to us with extensive previous experience in this
area so there will be little training time involved. In
addition to administering the DWI Task Force, Mr. Pope will
pursue the grant and public entity funding necessary to
continue the program.
Kathleen McCluskey, City Clerk, stated Mr. Pope has the
experience to walk in and take over the responsibilities of
this position. The funding issues does leave the City hanging
a bit, however, Mr. Pope will be working on that issue and
will come before Council before the end of September with a
recommendation and final information on the grant. What she is
proposing at this time is to hire Mr. Pope as a temporary
employee on an hourly wage for two months. At the worst case
scenario, Mr. Pope would be closing out the program and in the
best case would be presenting a request to Council to continue
the program.
Mrs. Fitz stated for clarification funding for Mr. Pope would
be paid with funds included in the current grant.
Mr. Overson questioned since there is no formal contract, by
default is there something that outlines the tasks and
responsibilities Mr. Pope will be asked to carry out? Ms.
McCluskey stated she had prepared a contract, however, the
City Attorney suggested that because this was for only a two
months period Mr. Pope could be hired on as a temporary hire.
The hire slip describes the position, which is Traffic Safety
Coordinator and that description incorporates all of the
#1986
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responsibilities for that job. If this position is retained,
there will be a contract prepared and presented to Council.
Mr. Colvln questioned if temporary hires were hired without
notice to the public that the City is looking for a temporary
person or are they chosen as we see fit? Ms. McCluskey stated
the City does not go through a formal hiring process for a
temporary hire due to it not being cost effective for short
term hires, who may be hired off existing lists. In the case
of Mr. Pope, the City went looking for someone specifically in
this field who had worked with this program. There is no
requirement for going through a particular process for short
term hires.
Public comment - none.
Mr. Johnson noted Mr. Pope had excellent credentials and it
was great that he could step in and fill this position for the
City. It was his hope that funds could be found to extend the
program. He was disappointed how the jurisdictions are
operating on the funding. He felt correcting some of the
inequities would change Bremerton's contribution ...it doesn't
seem right that the smaller cities, such as Port Orchard, are
having to pay in as much as the County government or
Bainbridge Island.
M/S/C/U(Johnson/Colvin) to approve temporary hire of Mr.
Lester Pope from July 27, 1992 to September 30, 1992.
Lester Pope stated he was pleased to be in Kitsap County and
would soon be moving his residence to the peninsula; and he
was looking forward to working with the City Council.
#2060
8A - ORDINANCE NO. 4384 (SECOND READING) AMENDING CITY HALL
OFFICE HOURS, #AB92-173
Public comment - none.
M/S/C(Waibel/Fitz) to pass Ordinance No. 4384, on second
reading, amending BMC 2.02, City Business Hours.
Vote on motion:
In Favor: Overson, Neville, Fitz, Waibel
Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson, Horton
Opposed: Collins
9A - PUBLIC HEARING AND RESOLUTION NO. 2399 -- SIX YEAR
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM 1993-1998, #AB92-192
RCW 37.77,010 requires the City to Update its Transportation
Improvement Program annually and file a copy of the adopted
program with the Secretary of Transportation.
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Projects utilizing STP, TIB, or arterial street funds must be
on the approved Improvement Program before funding can be
considered.
Dan Eisses, Acting Assistant City Engineer, stated the
proposed plan is made up based on data gathered and updated
every two years. This plan is basically the same as last
years with a few changes: (1) every other year the City can
apply for TIB funding and two projects have been added
utilizing those funds - 11th Street coming down the hill
between Chester and Warren Avenue and Kitsap Way from Weslon
Way out to Auto Center Way; (2) local project - Lower Marine
Drive has been moved up and will be the first local project to
be undertaken (Lower Marine Drive to Sundown Drive).
President Hotton questioned the addition of McClain Avenue?
Mr. Eisses stated McClain Avenue project was designed and
expected to be completed two summers ago, however funding was
not available, so it was brought back onto the Plan for 1993.
Mr. Waibel requested an explanation of the relationship
between the TIB supplement and the Plan itself. Mr. Eisses
stated the State Transportation Improvement Board (TIB) wants
to see the complete Six Year Transportation Improvement Plan
as well as proposed projects on a separate sheet. The TIB
Supplement is not part of the Six Year Plan.
Mrs. Fits requested an explanation of the meaning of TIB. Mr.
Eisses stated the TIB is the Transportation Improvement Board,
a State agency who helps the City fund major arterial streets.
They usually fund 80% of a project and the City has to come up
with 20% matching funds. The other source of funding is the
Surface Transportation Program (STP), a new Federal program.
Funds received from those two sources are utilized for major
arterial street projects. The most recent City project has
been Kitsap Way. The 20% matching funds are funded out of the
City's Arterial Street Fund. The only funding source for
local access streets is from the Gas Tax.
Mr. Overson noted Items #3 and #4 are not funded even though
they are a high priority. One of those projects, the Central
Business District One Way Traffic System, has been proposed by
this City since 1984, yet nothing has happened due to lack of
funding. He felt this was a contradiction of terms and could
be accomplished by simply moving the dollars up two levels on
the Plan. He questioned what was meant by "Warren Avenue Off-
Ramp"? Mr. Eisses explained the Central Business District
One-Way Traffic project was positioned on the plan for 1991 or
1992, shortly before or after when the Gorst-Bremerton
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Connector project came about. It is hoped to link the two
projects together and utilize Federal funds to help finance
them. The Warren Avenue Off Ramp (on the north side of the
Warren Avenue Bridge) would allow vehicles traveling south on
Wheaton Way to exit to Callahan Drive by taking a right turn
and circling underneath the bridge. Mr. Overson pointed out
that project was also not funded. Mr. Eisses stated that
project has been on the Plan for approximately four years, it
is designed and there is a cost estimate.
Maynard Hoffman, South Marine Drive and representing a group
of people in attendance from the South Marine Drive area,
stated they are concerned about a deplorable road and wanted
to know where it rated on the Plan. President Hotton noted
South Marine Drive is rated at a 1.5 level, putting it on the
low end of the scale.
Mrs. Lund, South Marine Drive, stated she has lived on South
Marine Drive since 1950 and her husband resided their since
1932. It was her understanding that South Marine Drive was
not paved until 1935-36. She referenced a letter she wrote to
the City regarding conditions of that road in 1988. The
City's response to that letter stated the residents were
required to form a L.I.D. program and provide funding. She
questioned if everyone on Marine Drive had to form a L.I.D.
Program in order to get their road paved? Since 1935-36, she
questioned where were these six year periods?
Les Salmon, 1542 South Marine Drive, stated he has resided at
this residence since 1950. About 1955-56 they were wooed into
annexing into the City and at that time they were told they
would have improved police and fire protection and improved
maintenance of roads. Over those many years, they have been
pleased with the police and fire protection, but truly
disappointed with the treatment they received as to upkeep of
roads. Currently, South Marine Drive is full of potholes and
most of the way is a one-way street due to trees having grown
into the road. He believed the street was not only dangerous
to drive but also for walking. He believes the City owes it
to the residents on South Marine Drive to consider doing
something prior to 1996.
Elizabeth Bus11, High Avenue, questioned if the Warren Avenue
Off-Ramp would necessitate removing some of the Scotch broom
that is currently growing in that area? Mr. Eisses stated
yes, some of it would be removed.
Robert Ackerman, 3706 Arsenal Way, questioned when the City
took over part of Arsenal Way and Marion Avenue was it annexed
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only to build apartments but ignore road conditions? Streets
need to be repaired and improved before the City invites more
people to come into the City through annexation.
Maynard Hoffman questioned if resurfacing of any road or
street come under the Street Department budget item "Supplies
and Services? He questioned what item would such work come
under in that budget? Mr. Eisses stated no. President
explained the information Mr. Hoffman had was the Street
Department's total budget which includes everything from doing
work on manholes to reaming out side areas for stormwater.
She was not sure where the breakdown is for resurfacing
streets. Mr. Hoffman pointed out it has been nearly 60 years
since South Marine Drive has been touched. Dave Baker, City
Engineer, stated in looking at the Street Department budget
breakdown, under the main heading of "Construction" is where
this type of work would normal fall. It does take "personnel"
to do construction and "supplies and services" would include
asphalt, crushed rock, etc. Mr. Hoffman pointed out the
Street Department Budget went from $275,000/1990 to
$351,000/1991 and decreased to $80,000/1992. Mr. Baker stated
the City has about 118 miles of street and in past years there
has been enough money (for non-arterial streets) to do perhaps
two blocks per year. Until funding becomes available, the new
construction of streets won't happen. The State of Washington
requires that everyyear the City puts together what it hopes
to do in the next six years. There is a certain amount of
money available, some Federal, State and Gas Tax. Normally,
that money goes to priority #1 or perhaps #2 and maybe there
is enough left over to do one of the off-system streets. Each
year that plan is updated and a new year added on. When there
is not enough funding to do projects listed on the 1991
program, they get pushed to the next year - 1992 program and
onto the next. The Six Year Plan is developed after all
streets are surveyed, their condition is determined ( rating
1-5) and then those streets with the lowest number are
selected along with streets that are used the most.
Mr. Collins requested an explanation of the restrictions put
on City Street crews as to how much of this type of work they
can do before it has to be contracted out. Mr. Baker stated
there are State requirements and regulations that City crews
can do up to $35,000 worth of work in a year, Beyond that the
City runs the risk of losing all State and Federal funding.
He noted $35,000 in today's economy won't buy very much
street. City crews can do more maintenance, but construction
is limited to that $35,000 figure. Mr. Collins pointed out
there is a very sensitive point where it leaves the category
of "maintenance" and becomes "construction". Mr. Baker stated
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any time they are looking at a 3/4 inch lift of asphalt from
that on up is construction... maintenance would include
sweeping and taking care of sanitary sewers, etc.
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Mayor Mentor reported last year the City funded four blocks on
13th Street, 2-3 blocks of 15th Street, approximately two
blocks on Thompson and 2-3 blocks on Weslon, 2-3 blocks on
Fir, several blocks on Magnuson. Due to funding, the ability
to do construction changes each year. He stressed 1992 is a
bad year for funding due to Federal funds being cut off.
Mr. Overson pointed out it was the Mayor's decision as to what
he funds and this year he did not proposed much for streets.
So, it is up to the taxpayers to get the attention of the
people who propose the budget.
Roy McInnis 2711 Maple Street, pointed out a correction to
Mayor Mentor's comment about improvements made to Fir Street
in 1991 - there was not any improvements made to Fir Street
but there was improvements made to Fir Court. He started
complaining about the condition of Fir Street when the Maple
Manor Apartments were built several years ago; and at that
time a promise was given that Fir Street would be redone from
the corner of Callaban down to Magnuson. The same thing was
promised when another apartment complex was built on the other
side of Fir Street. He planned to keep complaining until
eventually funding can be found in order to get the needed
construction.
Floyd Kern cautioned it is less costly to repair a small hole
or problem than to wait until it becomes an even bigger
project that becomes too costly for funds available.
Councilman Johnson left the City Council Chambers at 7:15 P.M.
Mr. Colvin questioned when could the South Marine Drive
residents get some relief to their poor street conditions?
Mr. Baker stated as far as reconstruction of the street there
are two possibilities: (1) wait for funding;(2) to form an
L.I.D., whereby the property owners pay for the major portion
of street construction. At this time, the City can promise
those residents that the City will patch potholes. Even with
pothole patching, eventually that patching comes out and will
need to be reconstructed.
President Hotton stressed the issue is not as easy as it
sounds. When the City is facing a tight budget, as it is at
this time and on into 1993, there are all sorts of people
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vying for services of the City. When you have people talking
about areas of crime and fire protection, those issues have a
higher priority than potholes. Our highest priorities are
life safety issues. Mayor Mentor will be proposing to Council
to impose a 12% parking tax on gross parking revenues. She
suspects the intention will be to divert that money into the
Transportation Program at one end and pull it out at the other
end to float the General Fund. She personally will not
support that if that is the intent. If Council votes to tax
people more, a product needs to be provided. If the City does
not start taking care of City streets we're going to be
driving on dirt. And, the only way to assure that maintenance
will be done is to dedicate funds every year to specific
projects. Mr. Eisses stressed 1992 was not a good year for
street funding, however, indications are that 1993 will be a
much better year. One of the big questions still unanswered
is the current Kitsap Way job - the State is being asked to
help fund that project since it is now a State highway. If
the City receives a good answer from the State, we will get
some good work done next year. President Hortonquestioned if
Mr. Eisses had taken into account the revenues from the
Parking Tax? Kathleen McCluskev, City Clerk, stated the funds
Mr. Eisses is referring to are arterials monies, not General
Fund monies.
Mr. Overson raised the possibility of canceling Items #6, 7,
13 and put the money into South Marine Drive? And, he
questioned what was included under the "Miscellaneous Traffic
Control Device" category? Mr. Eisses stated the Engineering
Departments deems road conditions on Mead Avenue to be in
worse shape than Marine Drive. He believed Mead Avenue was
listed according to its rating. In reference to Miscellaneous
Traffic Control Devices, it is something that is needed. The
estimated $40,000 is not a firm cost and depends on what
happens with signals that year. President Morton questioned
what kind of signals are being upgraded? Mr. Eisses stated if
they have to do a new coordination run - putting permissible
left turns in a few locations, i.e., Kitsap Way and Oyster
Bay). That signalization would allow people to turn left on
a left turn arrow, which guarantees them on coming traffic
will be stopped; and also after that left turn arrow goes off
it gives them a green ball where they have the option to make
a left turn when there is on coming traffic. President Morton
stated if we are looking at signalization upgrades at $120,000
is there any possibility of diverting some of those funds to
other projects? Mr. Eisses stated if Council decides to move
South marine Drive up on the list as money comes available it
could be done. Currently, he has Lower Marine Drive
designated as the first project for 1993. At this time, it is
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not known exactly what signalization work will be done. He
stressed Council needed to make a decision as to whether or
not they want to move South Marine Drive up on the list. Mr.
Collins stated he would hate to see any of the very small
amount for both Items #11 and 13 pulled out. He pointed out
Mead Avenue is generally thought of as an alley because it is
a bower of blackberries and it would probably be in a location
where someone would say "that's where an alley should be".
He hoped that project would not get deleted as it was very
needed.
President Hotton noted Lower Marine Drive is on this list and
it is witnessing development and potentially witness more
development to come. She questioned the use of a
Transportation Benefit Authority, a mechanism whereby you can
tag onto late comers for improvements. Mr. Baker stated you
could tag onto developments for improvements prior to their
approval. President Hotton questioned what if Lower Marine
Drive is fixed and then a development comes in and benefits
from that improvement, can the City go in for late comers
fees? Mr. Baker stated we probably could if there was an
agreement at the time of the permit, but he was not sure what
was agreed to at the time of permitting. President Hotton
stated there is no permit, but there is a piece of property
being discussed as potential development. Mr. Baker stated he
has seen some drawings on such a proposal. President Hotton
stated Council did approve development of 16 houses plus there
is additional property that is being considered for future
development. If the City goes in and makes improvements to
Lower Marine Drive and it benefits the private development,
can the City go in and ask for late comer fees to help recoup
the cost of improving that road, which would give the City
additional funds so it could add on South Marine Drive? Mr.
Baker cautioned that the City Attorney and Planning Director
should be posed that question. Leila Mills, Acting City
Attorney, stated she would have to take that question and
research the answer. Mrs. Fits stated at the time the
development for 16 homes came before Council, the developer
was to improve the street up to where Lower Marine Drive makes
the corner. If someone else has a piece of property to
develop, then Council, at that time, could possibly say that
street improvements must be made. That type of discussion
brings to her mind "Impact Fees". President Hotton stated what
she is referencing is not Impact Fees. She requested the
Acting City Attorney to check into the issue of late comer
fees for road improvements.
Mrs. Fits pointed out 13 streets listed on the Plan needing
repair are located in her District. She has travelled over
all of those streets and she agrees they are all in bad shape.
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South Marine Drive is a road that serves a number of people
and is in really bad shape. She did not believe that South
Marine Drive had ever been blacktopped. She supported moving
South Marine Drive as far forward as possible. President
Horton stated she could see pushing it somewhere, however,
the Engineering Department has already identified streets in
worse condition.
Mr. Wai~el stated we broached the "I" word...Impact Fees and
one of the things the City has to recognize is that the State
gave the City the ability to asses Impact Fees. There are a
lot of "strings" attached to that authority but it now gives
the State an excuse to say "if you cannot collect fees to fix
your roads we're not going to fund them any more". Council
must consider that even though it may get worse before getting
better unless the City is willing to "bite the bullet" and do
all the work it takes to getting Impact Fees in place and
recognizing the impact of Impact Fees on the developer.
#0742
M/S/C(Collins/Neville) to adopt the 1993-1998 Transportation
Improvement Program and attached Resolution No. 2399.
Vote on motion:
In Favor: Overson, Neville, Fitz, Waibel,
Collins, Dawkins, Colvin
Opposed: Horton
Mr. Dawklns questioned could Mr. Baker and the Street
Department look at the South Marine Drive area and see if
there was anything that could be done to improve their
situation.
Mr. C01vin thanked the residents from South Marine Drive for
sharing their concerns with Council and invited them to "keep
the pressure on". President Hotton pointed out there was also
another option of a L.I.D. and/or a possibility of a 50-50
split with the City. If a slit L.I.D. was negotiated,
possibly some of the funds identified for signalization could
be used for that project. There is no reason, on the local
street portion, why Council couldn't come back mid year and
amend the plan. Mr. Eisses stated the Street Superintendent
does get money that is similar to the arterial street fund and
is earmarked for local projects but not required for local
projects. Those funds could be made available without having
to do a Plan amendment.
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With no further business meeting adjourned at 7:40 P.M.
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