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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/16/92TAPE #1057 UNAPPROVED DRAFT CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES #0022 SEPTEMBER 16, 1992 The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers, 239 4TH Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, September 16, 1992, at 5:30 p.m., with Council President Lynn Horton presiding. Council members present: Lon Overson, Richard Neville, Eileen Fitz, Hank Waibel, C. R. "Tiny" Collins, Morrie Dawkins, A1 Colvin, Russ Johnson. Also present were City Attorney Ian Sievers and City Clerk Kathleen McCluskey. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council President Horton and Invocation given by Jim Bemis, Dean Of Relations Star Of The Sea Catholic Church. President Hotton announced Item 6A had been taken off the Agenda and rescheduled for October 7, 1992. CONSENT AGENDA A. Minutes of Meeting - August 26, 1992 #AB92-222 B. Minutes of Meeting - September 2, 1992 #AB92-223 M/S/C/U(Waibel/Fitz) to approve Consent Agenda as presented. CLAIMS/WARRANT REGISTERS Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as required by RCW 42.24,080, and those expense reimbursement claims certified as required by RCW 42.24.090, have been recorded on a listing that had been made available to the council. NONE COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS Mr. Overson welcomed his niece and her mother-in-law, who are visiting from the Southeast. He was sorry to see two businesses close in the downtown area, but was pleased to welcome a new business at the corner of 6th and Warren Avenue. Mr. Neville reported on September 10 he attended a Steering Committee meeting for the Campus/Evergreen Neighborhood and another meeting is set for September 16. The next public TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 2 of 15 meeting for the Campus/Evergreen Neighborhood Plan is scheduled for September 24. Over the weekend he attended a seminar, Vision Kitsap, which he found to be very informative. He thanked the Seattle Symphony for an outstanding performance on September 15, at the Bremerton High School. Mrs. Fits announced anyone within her District who might be interested in serving on the Ad Hoc Committee that will study the City's form of government to please give her a call. She also attended Vision Kitsap seminar and learned "planning" can be exciting and it really was a vision for what a community can be. She hopes something similar can be done on a local basis so that others can see what can be done in planning new housing and developments. Mr. Walbel noted last week he celebrated his 50th birthday and this week he extends a special "Happy Birthday" to his oldest daughter, Heather, who turns 16 today. Mr. Johnson announced the tentative target date for the newly formed Ad Hoc Committee is September 29. He requested those who have appointments to make to that Committee to please have their names submitted to Council's Legislative Assistant by the week of September 21. Mr. Colvin raised the point that a deadline had not been set for filling the positions on the Ad Hoc Committee. President Hotton pointed out Mr. Johnson just announced that meeting will be held September 29 and it was Mr. McConnell who had requested that date, not Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson also noted such appointments are not restricted to only within a Council members District. Mr. Colvln announced anyone within his District who would like to serve on the Ad Hoc Committee to please contact him. He questioned the actual numbers of people attending the Black Berry Festival? He reported on a very successful District i meeting, held September 10, and thanked everyone who helped put on that meeting. Those attending that meeting indicated they would like more meetings of that kind. President Hotton reported almost 900 people toured the Turner Joy the day of the Black Berry Festival. Mr. Dawkins congratulated all the voters on their getting out and exercising their right to vote. Mr. Collins thanked the Black Berry Festival Committee for a fantastic job. He had never seen that many people in downtown Bremerton at any one time. His wife and friends made 30 black berry pies, which were sold in less than 11/2 hours and 100 berry tarts were sold out in one hour. He also conveyed "a i TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 3 of 15 fantastic job" to Paulette Mentor, Chair of the Black Berry Festival. In reference to the meeting schedule for the AD Hoc committee, he felt too short of notice was given considering most of the members have not yet been selected. He recommended extending the date for that first meeting into October. Ceoil McComnell, Provisional Chairman of the AD Hoc Committee, explained the first meeting will be just the organizing meeting; and he would be out-of-town for approximately two weeks in early October. He announced two groups had already selected their representatives to this committee, the League Of Women Voters and BACON; and the Chamber of Commerce is in the process of selecting their representative. Mrs. Hotton reported she participated in the Vision Kitsap seminar, which entailed viewing and rating 240 slides depicting various areas, including a large number from Kitsap County. The result from that exercise was a consensus vision of what was desired for Kitsap County to become. She also would like to see a similar program offered on a community wide basis. She felt this seminar showed that even though people came from divergent parts of the County and had different ideas of what individual communities ought to be, there was respect among the communities and support for the visions for those individual communities. She also congratulated the voters and winners of the Primary election. PUBLIC RECOGNITION MaYor Louis Mentor congratulated the City of Bremerton for passing the Fire Levy with approximately 80% "yes" vote. He commended everyone who worked on promoting the levy ballot measure. He noted a news article in today's Sun cited the heroic effects of Aaron Rankin administrating CPR to a grade school teacher who suffered a heart attack. He congratulated the winners of the Primary and also those who didn't win. He announced the new Kitsap Lake Elementary School will be dedicated on Saturday, September 19, 11:00 AM. On September 17 the YWCA will hold its Woman Of The Year Award Banquet at Olympic College. The Bremerton Area Chamber Of Commerce Installation Of New Officers will be held on September 22. In reference to the attendance at the Black Berry Festival, approximately 20-25,000 people enjoyed that event. He extended a special "thank you" to everyone who worked on that event, including the members of the Committee, Parks Department personnel, members of the Navy, Street Department, Bremerton Main Street Association, Police Department, etc. He enjoyed being part of the District #1 meeting. He reported the State Auditor's reviewed the Overwater Park project and deemed that everything was done properly. He referenced a news #1080 TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 4 of 15 article in the Independent Business Magazine in which three winners and six runner-ups, nationally, were selected as outstanding Main Street stores and retailers. He was proud to announce that one of the runner-ups was artist Amy Burnett, who helped convert Bremerton into a cultural center after renovating an empty building. Lastly, he announced the 1993 Community Block Grant Program applications are available and may be picked up at the Community Development Department, 286 4TH Street, with a due date for submittal of October 2. Mayor Mentor presented the following Proclamations: 1. Proclaimed September 27, 1992, "GOLD STAR MOTHERS REMEMBRANCE DAY" , and was accepted by Nancy Moen, VFW Post and Auxiliary #3694. 2. Proclaimed September 18, 1992, as "PRISONER OF WAR AND MISSING IN ACTION REMEMBRANCE DAY", and was accepted by Bob Sauter, Ret. Sgt. Major. Don Larson, Kitsap Diving Association, announced his group will hold a meeting on September 17, at Olympic College - Humanities Room 104. Fred Fellowman of the American Oceans Campaign will be guest speaker at that meeting. On September 26, 10:00AMto 5:00 PM, Kitsap Regional Library will host the show "Beneath Puget Sound". In October people For Puget Sound will sponsor Kids Day" event that will include the involvement of the Bremerton Parks Department, Kitsap Regional Library and Kitsap Diving Association. More information on this event can be obtained by calling 1-800-PEOPLE-2. 7A - APPOINTMENT TO CABLE COMMUNICATIONS ADVISORY COMMITTEE - JACK D. RIGGS, #AB92-225 There is a vacancy on the Cable Communications Advisory Committee. It is recommended the vacancy be filled by Jack D. Riggs. Mayor Mentor reviewed Mr. Riggs education background, work experience and community involvement. He urged Council to confirm his appointment of Mr. Riggs to the Cable Communications Advisory Committee. Public comment - none. M/S/C/U(Neville/Colvin) motion to confirm the appointment of Jack D. Riggs to the Cable Communications Advisory Committee. 7B - LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF BREMERTONAND NORTHWEST STEELHEAD & SALMON COUNCIL OF TROUT UNLIMITED (BREMERTON CHARTER), #AB92-226 · . } #1147 1 TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 5 of 15 This is a lease agreement between the City of Bremerton Department of Municipal Utilities and Bremerton Chapter of the Northwest Steelhead & Salmon Council of Trout Unlimited for the use of an abandoned water storage facility (Reservoir #2) located in the Anderson Creek Drainage System. This lease agreement provides for the utilization of the facility by Trout Unlimited for raising freshwater fish for stocking purposes. Bill Dully, Utilities Director, reported the referenced reservoir is available and has not been used since prior to World War II. Use of the facility would be to raise fresh water fish with the intent to release them primarily in Kitsap County and predominately in Kitsap Lake. Public comment - none. M/S/C/U(Johnson/Colvin) to approve the lease agreement between the City of Bremerton and Bremerton Chapter Of the Northwest Steelhead & Salmon Council of Trout Unlimited and authorize the Mayor to execute said agreement subject to City Administrative Policies and Procedures. 8A -RESOLUTION NO. 2405, DESIGNATING PURCHASING SUPERVISOR AS PRIMARY CONTACT WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL ADMINISTRATION, #AB92-227 The 1991 Washington State Legislature adopted RCW43.19A. Its intent is to substantially increase the procurement of recycled content products by all local government agencies. Under this legislation, local governments are required to designate a procurement officer to serve as primary contact with the State Department of General Administration. This requirement applies to local governments with F.Y 1989 supplies expenditures exceeding $500,000.00 exclusive of Capital goods, electricity, water or gas. Public comment - none. Mr. Johnson stated he talked with the City's Procurement Officers, Gil Johnson, about updating the City's Procurement Policy with regard to purchasing products made of recycled materials. Council did previously pass a Resolution authorizing purchase of products manufactured from recycled materials. Mr. Gil Johnson indicated he would attempt to have a revision to the City's Procurement Policies the week of October 3, so that it would coincide with "Recycle Week". #1231 M/S/C/U(Johnson/Dawkins) to pass Resolution No. 2405, TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 6 of 15 designating the Purchasing Supervisor as Primarily Contact with the State Department Of General Administration for compliance with RCW 43.19A. 8B - RESOLUTION NO. 2406, ~PPROVING ~SSIONMENT OF ~ SECURITY INTEREST KMD ~SSETS OF OLYMPIC CKBLEVISION TO F~LCON VIDEO, #),B92-228 Ordinance #4385 passed August 19, 1992, approving the transfer of franchise from Olympic Cablevision to Falcon Video. Falcon has requested adoption of proposed Resolution. This Resolution contains specific language regarding the transfer of assets necessary to complete the sale. Mr. Waibel pointed out that the item (2) under "Be It Resolved" was basically a sub-franchising of the franchise. He questioned if that was the intent? Ian Sievers, City Attorney, he believed the assignment of the interest, if they would foreclose on those interest, would still need Council's approval. This proposal allows Olympic to assign the franchise along with their other assets. He referenced the fact that the City allowed the YMCA assignment of their lease for financing purposes, which is similar to this proposal. Mr. Waibel questioned the City'S intent to do that? Mr. Sievers stated he was not sure if Mr. Waibel was asking for a clarification on that point. President Horton stated the question is does the City want to "leave the door open" to allow that possibility, with Council approval, or do we want to exclude that possibility. Mr. Waibel stated at the very least there should be some language that specifically states further Council action would be required in order for this to be official. Mr. 8levers stated he did not believe such wording would defeat what the City is being asked to do. Mr. Johnson emphasized that the suggested language would change it so that there would never be a transfer from Falcon to anyone else without City Council approval. He questioned if Falcon had agreed to continue to support public educational and government access television program. Kathleen McCluskeV, City Clerk, stated yes. Mr. Colvin questioned the net affect this proposal will have on the viewers? Mr. Sievers stated none, this is just some technical things needed in addition to the original transfer. Impact on viewers are covered by the prevously adopted Master Franchise Ordinance. Public comment - none. #1400 M/S/C/U(Waibel/Colvin) to pass Resolution No. 2406, affirming TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 7 of 15 that Olympic Cablevision was the current cable television franchisee on the date of approval by City Council Ordinance #4385, and approving the assignment of a security interest in the cable television system, its assets and the franchise in connection with the financing and operation of the cable television system; with the insertion in Paragraph (2) of the Resolution of some wording that will address the requirement of City Council action for any further transfer. President Hotton requested the City Attorney provide Council with a copy of the amended Resolution. 8C - RESOLUTION NO. 2407, CITY/COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT ISSUES, #AB92-229 Kitsap County actions in various planning activities indicate disagreement with the spirit of the Growth Management Act and the County-wide Planning Policies regarding location of urban development. Don Pratt, Director Of Community Development, stated over the last Legislative Sessions the State adopted Growth Management legislation. One of the primary elements of that legislation is the requirement that cities and counties plan together for their common areas and to identify, within their County, where urban and rural areas should be. Included in the Growth Management legislation is a requirement that the County, as lead agency, undertake a collaborative process with all of the cities within the County to determine how some County-wide Growth Management Policies should be developed. The Growth Management legislation also designated the County as the unilateral adopter of such policies. It did not require any approval subsequently by the cities for the policy adopted by the County. Kitsap County and the cities created the Kitsap Regional Planning Council (KRPC), which is comprised of elected officials of each of the jurisdictions to review and recommend County-wide planning policies for adoption. Some of the policies that were subsequently recommended by this group in June of 1992, included one which states: "That all urban arowth should be encouraged within urban growth areas and not permitted outside of an adopted urban arowth area except for new fully contained communities as authorized by the Growth Management Act". That policy was subsequently adopted by Kitsap County. In addition to the policies recommended by KRPC, Kitsap County chose to include annexation processes within the County-wide planning policy and they also chose to delete a direct quote from the State Growth Management Act, which states: "urban level services are typically provided by I TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 8 of 15 cities". Recently, Kitsap County had before them the opportunity to concur with the Dyes Inlet Watershed Management Plan. The City recently concurred with that Watershed Management Plan. One of the items Kitsap County refused to concur with was the statement that would require urban, commercial and residential development to be located in urban areas. Kitsap County objected to the use of the word "urban areas" and requested that it be deleted. The Plan is going forward, with the City's concurrence with those words but without the County's. Whether or not it is now an applicable plan is in question. The Growth Management Act did build in a method for appeal if anyone had objection with any of the County-wide policies; and cities are included as eligible appellants. Two items that seem to have merit for appealing are: (1) the inclusion of annexation procedures in a County-Wide Policy document relating to development (the subject of appeal is whether or not it is proper to include annexation procedures within the Policy document); (2) the County's refusal to concur with the Dyes Inlet Watershed Plan calling for growth to occur in urban areas. The appeal action, if the City chooses to take it, needs to be filed within a 60-day time period from the time it was adopted. The proposed Resolution asks that the Mayor and City Council President review the situation with professional staff and other cities in Kitsap County and to discuss the possibility of a joint appeal. No action on behalf of the city is authorized in this Resolution and if Council wishes to add such authority then wording needs to be included as an amendment. Ian Sievers, City Attorney, stated he would have to give further investigation into the "drainage program". In reference to the Growth Management policy, they are definitely appealable and there are certainly reasons for trimming out things that are not mandatory and that may be in excess of the County's authority of adopting these policies. In one instance, the policies call for some future agreement for the Boundary Review Board on its invoking jurisdiction. However, if that agreement does not come to pass, the Boundary Review Board is required to look at these adopted policies in its review of future annexations. So, it is important to take any unnecessary policies out of the Plan. RoY McInnis, 2711 Maple Street, stressed his concern for the need to "knock off" the dissention between the cities and the County. President Herton explained she, Councilman Overson and Mayor Mentor sit on the Kitsap Regional Planning Council along with representation from all the cities and two tribes as well i TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 9 of 15 as the three County Commissioners. What some counties and cities have done, who are working on the Growth Management Act, was to required city concurrence with the Growth Policies before being adopted by the County. In Kitsap County, the County let the other jurisdictions know that they were in the "drivers seat" and they intended to make use of that unilateral ability. As far as annexation, this is a Planning Policy - good planning should go on irrespective of jurisdiction and annexation disagreements or agreements. By includingAnnexation procedures in these Policies, it creates more disagreement than agreement. An important part of the Growth Management Act is for the jurisdictions within a county to work in concert to plan for growth and manage growth appropriately. She believes the cities of Port Orchard and Poulsbo will join the appeal. The Tribes may also be interested in joining the appeal. Mr. Johnson stated he fully supported the proposed Resolution because: (1) all counties and cities must uphold State law. State law and Growth Management Act dictates high densities in urbanized areas, which does not make City residents happy in many instances. And, State law also states that when you get outside of those areas you are suppose to have lesser densities and stop growth. (2) Annexation is a side issue and not the main issue. If the City is going to be upgrading densities, annexation may or may not become an issue and if it does then it should be treated separately. Council needs to look at redevelopment in the City. As long as it is still OK to keep expanding out into the County, there is not much incentive for a developer to go into the redevelopment business. State law states specifically there is nothing in the Growth Management Act that should detract from the land use capabilities of a city. He emphasized what is coming out of the County is not what is in the law. Mr. Colvln stated he would abstain from voting on this issue because there is some dissention. There are always two sides of a story and at this point he did not know which one is the right story. He understands that the County Commissioners are willing to get together with the City and discuss this situation. President Hotton pointed out one of the elements in this process is to bring both sides together and provide mediation to those entities. The cities do have some disputes with the County and she was sure the County has its view on those situations, however, what is needed is an impartial mediator who has interpreted the Growth Management Act and can help wade through those differences. What is proposed at this time will start that process of obtaining mediation from the Growth ManagementAppeals Board. Mr. Colvinquestioned if the TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 10 of 15 City was at that kind of impasse that there are no other alternatives? President Horton stated she believed so. One of the passages in the Growth Management Act talks about urban services should be provided by cities. The wording in the County's growth policy talks about "because historically Kitsap County has had other entities provide services.then we ought to be able to carry on that practice". Mr. Johnson pointed out all three County Commissioners sit on the KRPC and were involved in negotiations. However, as soon as that meeting was over, they returned to their own meeting and adopted what they wanted regardless of input received. Mr. Colvin stated he did not believe the County Commissioners would arbitrarily not follow State law. Mr. Waibel stressed they were doing it on purpose. President Hotton stressed the appeals process was set up by the State to arbitrate such impasses between cities and counties. Mr. Colvin questioned if the County agreed that arbitration was needed? President Hotton stated no, the County would like to let the policies stand as written even though the cities believe they counter what the Growth Management states. Mrs. Fitz stated she felt this proposal was a way to stop where we are before there are any more hard feelings or accusations on either side. This will place it in someone else's hands to make a decision about who is interpreting the law correctly. Mr. Overson stated he strongly supports this proposal and tried to work with the County through the KRPC, but the County has demonstrated they want to continue development of Silverdale to where it takes over the whole County. The intent of Growth Management is to stop sprawl and to retain some open space without having to buy it. The cities have to do something to turn around the development. Mr. Colvin may abstain from voting, but that is exactly what the County wants to happen ... to just lay back and let them do it! Mr. Colvin stated he will take a stand on any issue, however, all he wanted was to make sure every effort was made to cooperate with the County. President Hotton reported Phyllis Meyer of the Suquamish Tribe has been working on the Dyes Inlet/Clear Creek Water Quality Plan and will offer comments on this proposal. One of the things talked about in growth management is a hierarchy of density where there are higher density areas like the City of Bremerton and maybe ultimately Silverdale, with the next strata being Poulsbo, Bainbridge Island, Port Orchard, followed by a lower strata like Kingston, Southworth area and Seabeck. The County would not concur with the Dyes TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 11 of 15 Inlet/Clear Creek Water Quality Pan even though in the KRPC Policy it speaks to putting higher density, commercial development in urban areas. Kitsap County is not following the policy where it relates to water quality. Phyllis Meyer, Suquamish Tribe, stated she is a fisheries biologist and manages the environmental program for the Suquamish Tribe's Fisheries Department. She has been involved in developing the Dyes Inlet/Clear Creek Watershed Plan for three years. The whole planning process has been conducted in accordance with the Washington Administrative Code that outlines the process in developing a plan with representation of all the affected agencies and citizen groups. When completed, the plan is sent out for concurrence by the implementing agencies. This process was completed and did involved an amount of "give-and- take", and one of the things important to the Tribes was to protect fisheries resources and fish habitat, i.e., Chico Creek. is a valuable resource that way. During development of the Plan, there was discussion about having minimum setback requirements and development standards that would apply to specific areas that were especially environmentally sensitive. The Kitsap County Commissioners would not agree to those requirements and in the end areas were designated that would not be developed, i.e., Chico Creek Sub-basin. This dispute has not yet been resolved. Basically, what the committee asked the County to do was to commit not having new planned communities within Chico Sub-basin and they declined to agree to that stipulation. Ms. Meyers believed that was a strong indication the County would seek to get approval for a new planned community in that basin. She felt it was premature to say their position is "premature for them to commit to that because the growth management process has not been concluded and the schedule for growth management planning has a later end date then the deadline for the committee work on that plan. Mr. Johnson stated as he understands it the result is to not have a reoccurrence of what happened to Clear Creek happen to Chico Creek. Ms. Meyers stated prevention is the best cure. President Hotton stated the County was right in that we still have part of the process to go through. If the County had stated "we would concur with this plan provisionally until we get our growth management agreements and urban growth boundaries established so we know where development should and should not occur", then she believed it would be easier to go along in that direction. But, by simply not concurring between now and the time the agreements and boundaries are in place, there could be a lot of damage done to that area that will never be able to be undone. She strongly believed the momentum must be stopped and to look at what is being done. Ms. Meyers stated one of the gray areas in the watershed planning process is what exactly happens at TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 12 of 15 the end. She had the Tribe's attorneys review State law which included one statement that ultimately gives the State the authority to solve outstanding issues of non-concurrence. She believed the State's approach to this issue was to encourage all the participants on the committee and the County to work together to seek resolution on these two issues. The County may say their non-concurrence isn't final and she did notknow what position the State would take in that instance. She was not sure how "final" other. players in the process consider their response to be, however, there was discussion of release of funding already for the other actions in the plan, which in her opinion would take out the "clout" of the committee. Mr. Collins questioned if what he is hearing is the bureaucratic answer or has the "point-of-no -return" been established by the County Commissioners? Don Pratt stated the proposed Resolution mandates no specific action, but it does ask that the Council President and Mayor review the situation and discuss it with other cities. The reason for the Resolution was to: (1) to get on the record how the City Council, as a group, feels about the issue. Council has a choice of adding a specification or authorizing an action if deemed warranted or leaving it open for subsequent action later. (2) There were several issues in the Watershed Management Plan that the City agreed with the County: (a) City feels it is important urban growth area planning take place within the KRPC forum rather than being forced to identify some urban areas and to set aside some areas within the drainage basin planning, which we did not think had adequate representation to make those issues. The specific issue the City contests is within the drainage basin management plan is the County was proposing to delete the designation of urban areas for new commercial and residential development. It may be theCity would agree on some other issues with the County, and it may be that Chico Creek is within an urban growth area and needs to take development but subject it to significantly higher development standards. The City is on the record saying that the Chico Creek area to the railroad tracks to the west is within the urban growth area that is already on the ground in Kitsap County. To that end, the City would approve of some new commercial and residential development. What we don't approve is to delete the words "urban areas" for new commercial and residential development and seeing that development happening in other areas where subsequent negative impacts can happen on other stream basins that are currently outside of the urban growth areas. Mr. Johnson stated ChicO Creek from Kitsap Lake and beyond would become a sensitive area and become part of the mapping growth management process. Mr. Pratt stated there needs to be different development #2965 TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 13 of 15 standards for sensitive stream areas within urban areas than there will be in rural areas; and we do not deny we need to have significantly higher development standards in stream basins that are in urban areas. The point of contention is that we don't want to see development happening outside of urban areas and that is what the County has objectively refused to sign on to in the Dyes Inlet study. President Hotton noted in response to Mr. Collins question, at the last meeting Commissioner Eider was present and represented the County's position. Mr. Waibel stated the County has not taken a position that they can't back away from, but at this time they see no need to change because there is no one with any authority to require them to change. Under the law,.the City does not have the clout to make them respond, therefore, it is prudent that the City get the County into a forumwhere they will respond. Mr. Colvin questioned if the City was putting the County "on notice" that if we cannot get together we will go through the appeal process? President Hotton stated yes. Mr. Colvln stated he felt that was proper. He wished that County representatives were present during this discussion to expressd their view point. President Hotton emphasized the County has their view and the cities have their views and we both think we are right. Now, there is a need for an impartial party who knows the Growth Management Act and can let us know where we broke down and how to get back together again. M/S/C(Waibel/Dawkins) to pass Resolution No. 2407 Vote on motion: In Favor: Overson, Neville, Fitz, Waibel, Horton, Collins, Dawkins, Johnson Abstain: Colvin Motion carried. 8D - ORDINANCE (FIRST RE~DING) AMENDING THE MANAGEMENT AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF COMPENSATION PLAN, #AB92-230 Various titles in the Management and Professional Staff Compensation Program are not consistent with the titles of the classification specifications of the position. The attached ordinance removes incorrect titles and adds the correct ones. Caroline Marshall, Personnel Director, stated this proposal is a correction to the existing ordinance. Some of the titles in the ordinance that provides compensation and benefits for the people in the positions listed are inconsistent with the job descriptions and other documents. This is the first attempt to establish a master list of correct titles. President TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 14 of 15 TAPE #1058 Hotton questioned why are the names being changed, i.e., "Assistant City Engineer" to "Engineering Manager"? She questioned why are we going from a title that is straight forward and easily understood to something that is more like bureaucratic double talk? Ms. Marshall explained in her position relating to "Personnel", it does not sound like bureaucratic double talk - it has meaning in its classification. Back in 1991, Council went through and reviewed a binder full of job specifications as special adjustments in this group and included in that binder were reports and recommendations to change the titles and classification specification for those positions. President Hotton re-emphasized why is this being proposed? Ms. Marshall stated because job duties have changed and the new classification specifications reflect the real work that is being done by the individuals in those positions. President Hotton stated for clarification then the job currently performed by the Assistant City Engineer no longer reflects the duties of an Assistant City Engineer. Ms. Marshall stated yes, the job description that applied to the Assistant City Engineer has altered. A job description was developed to reflect actual functions within that position area. Mr. Waibel stated some of this would make more sense if Council had the entire package and we can't get into the entire package until the definitions are clearly identified. Mr. Overson questioned if the intent of Ordinance #4305 is that the City have an established list of management and professional staff? If so, why would anyone submit a budget that did not include those titles? Ms. Marshall stated yes, the budget process and classification process has been connected. The difference between the two documents reflect the fact there are times when we do work now and try and fix it later due to time pressures and budget process. She stressed a better job was being done each year. She admitted there needs to be increased coordination. Mr. Overson questioned what titles will be included in the 1993 budget? MS. Marshall stated the ones listed in this proposal. Any future changes would have to come to Council and amendments would then be made to this master list. Mr. Overson pointed out then that would preclude any surprises happening. Mr. Johnson stressed if a manager title/position is not listed on this list, it will never get out of Fiscal and Budget Committee. Mr. Dawkins requested an organizational chart be provided showing the titles/positions at the time of second reading of the ordinance. Ms. Marshall emphasized if someone's title is #0167 TAPE #1057 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes September 16, 1992 Page 15 of 15 changed or they receive a salary increase, this document would have to be amended by the City Council. Mr. Colvin questioned if there would be any impact on the budget if this proposal is approved? Ms. Marshall stated no. Mr. Collins questioned the change in the title of Director of Personnel/Labor Relations to Director of Personnel? And, in the following documents on the Director of Personnel job description he could not find that Labor Relations was specified. He questioned who would be handling labor relations responsibilities? Ms. Marshall stated she would be handling Labor Relations. She emphasized this was a good example why titles change. Her department is called Personnel/Labor Relations and her official job description states Director of Personnel. Public comment - none. M/S/C/U(Collins/Waibel) to pass Ordinance, on first reading, amending Ordinance #4305, Section 1 (BMC2.50.020(a). With no further business meeting adjourned at 7:12 P.M. KATHLEEN L. McCLUSKEY, 'City Clerk T , Council President City of Bremerton KLM/LH/me cc: Normal Distribution File/Vault