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CITY COUNCIL FLEETING MINUTES
JANUARY 15, 1992
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers,
239 4TH Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, January 15,
1992, at 5:30 p.m., with Council President Lynn Horton
presiding. Council members present: Lon Overson, Wayne Estes,
Eileen Fitz, Hank Waibel, C. R. "Tiny"Collins, Morrie Dawkins,
A1 Colvin and Russ Johnson. Also present were Acting City
Attorney Leila Mills and City Clerk Kathleen McCluskey.
The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by
Council President Horton and Invocation given by Reverend
David Biles of St. Luke's Methodist Church.
President Horton announced the Study Session, scheduled
following the Council meeting, on Municipal Court, was
canceled and rescheduled for Wednesday, January 22. And, the
advertised Executive Session on "personnel" would be heard as
a "Study Session" issue.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Minutes Of Meeting - December 30, 1991, %AB92-009
%0033 M/S/C/U(Waibel/Colvin) to approve Consent Agenda as presented.
CLaIMS/WARRANT REGISTERS
Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as
required by RCW 42.24.080, and those expense reimbursement
claims certified as required by RCW 42.24.090, have been
recorded on a listing that had been made available to the
council.
%0049 M/S/C/U(Colvin/Dawkins) on January 15, 1991, the Council does
approve for payment those vouchers included and further
described as follows: 141992, 141994, 141995, 141996, 142354
through 142357, 142539 through 142748, 142750 through 142752
in the total amount $1,240,568.18.
COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS
Mr. Johnson reported the completion and opening of the AMPM
Mini-Mart at 6th and Naval. He had been watching the progress
of construction on this project and felt everything promised
by that corporation happened and hoped the mini-mart and
surrounding neighbors would become good friends. In regard to
solid waste, when the City negotiated the new solid waste
contract one of the factors used was to make sure the
Bremerton area received less costly garbage service than in
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Seattle. This date, the Seattle City Council was presented
proposals, from all Seattle Utilities, which include an 18-20%
increase in solid waste rates as well as lights, storm water,
etc.
Mr. Colvin noted during Public Recognition two representatives
from NARF would be speaking about their "volunteer tax
service". He announced Mr. Walker Wilson and Mr. David Lewis
Jr., will accept the Martin Luther King Proclamation that will
be issued by Mayor Mentor. In connection with the Martin
Luther King's observance he quoted the following: "May
strength and courage abundant be given to all who work for a
world of reason and understanding, that the good that lies in
every man's heart may by day be magnified and that men will
come to see more clearly not that which divides them but that
which unites them that each hour will may bring us closer to
final victory, not nation over nation but man over his own
evils and weaknesses".
Mr. Collins reported he recently visited the local recycling
center and was pleased to see so many people using that
facility. He believes the citizens of Bremerton are~receptive
to recycling.
Mr. Overson welcomed a new downtown business - Weefolk
Empire, 619 4th Avenue.
Mr. Estes reported he received quite a lot of "flak" over
parking issues and wanted the public to know that parking was
under the Mayor's jurisdiction. He urged citizens, who had
such concerns, to contact the Mayor's office directly. He
also urged citizens to have patience and give the downtown
parking validation program an opportunity to work.
Mr. Waibel stated he received a lot of sympathy during his
bout with the flu and now has empathy for others after having
experienced it.
Mrs. Horton reported she received a flyer and letter from a
group of High School students and their advisor inviting the
Council and general public to a Gospel Rama 1992 at Bremerton
High School Performing Arts Center on January 25, 7:00 PM.
Admission - Free. This program is designed to bring the
community of Bremerton together in harmony and will feature
many of the area's choral groups as well as musically inclined
performers. Today she attend the Kitsap Regional Planning
Council meeting. Future meetings of this group will take
place on the first Wednesday of each meeting. In conjunction
with the one hour parking in the retail area, she knows there
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are people who are unhappy about the new restrictions, but she
has also heard from many of the downtown business and their
response is very favorable. She doubted the City would ever
be rid of all its parking problems unless the automobile was
outlawed!
PUBLIC RECOGNITION
Mayor Mentor announced on January 20, 1992, at 12:00 P.M., the
Ebenezer AME Church located at 9th and Park will celebrate
Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Films about Dr. King's life will
be shown every two hours beginning at 2:00 P.M. A church
service will be held from 12:00 - 1:00 P.M. Lunch will be
served on a first- come- first- serve basis and all are
welcome and there is no charge.
Mayor Mentor read a Proclamation recognizing the significant
contribution Martin Luther King made towards bringing a new
and higher dimension of dignity to the Black experience and
accumulated political power for blacks beyond any they had
every possess in their history in the United States. And, he
proclaimed Monday, January 20, 1992, as MARTIN LUTHER KING,
JR. DAY in the City of Bremerton. Mayor Mentor noted that Mr.
David Lewis had been recommended by A1 Colvin to receive this
proclamation. Mr. Lewis had served for many years as
Secretary of the Bremerton Branch of the NAACP and has been a
long time advocate of good citizenship. Mr. Lewis promoted
active participation in civic affairs to improve community
relations and the quality of life. He is also an advocate of
citizens registering to vote and be info£med of civic social
issues. David Lewis Jr., standing in for his father David
Lewis who was ill, accepted the proclamation. He noted his
father is recovering from a bout with cancer and had he been
able to attend this meeting, he would have expressed his
appreciation for the City's acknowledging his endeavors over
the past years. Walker Wilson stated he was sure David Lewis
· appreciates the comments made by Mayor Mentor. He related
some background of the kinds of involvement Mr. Lewis had in
years past. He also encouraged public participation at the
black-eyed pea dinner at the Ebenezer Church.
Mayor Mentor stated in reference to a comment made by a
gentleman at the last Council meeting that related to the type
of rebar being used in the overwater park project, the steel
being used is as described in the contract. He noted a more
in depth report on this issue would be provided by the City
Engineer Dave Baker later on in this meeting. In reference to
the Pre-Release Prison facility proposal, he felt there was
some confusion as to where such a facility might be located
and provided a map showing where the Department of Corrections
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was considering placing such a facility. He explained about
1 1/2 year ago he appointed a committee of 12 citizens to look
into a prison site. This group visited several existing
prison sites and it was determined at that time that there was
not a suitable site available in the Bremerton area. Then,
about six months ago, at the request of a Council member, he
took another look at two other sites, which the Department of
Corrections decided were not appropriate. Next, in June,
1991, a letter was sent to Council Present Horton, from the
Department of Corrections, requesting a list of 10 people who -
would consider working on an Advisory Committee. To his
knowledge the Council President did responded with several
suggested names of Bremerton residents. He' stated he was
against placement of such a facility at the proposed site near
the Pope and Talbot property.
Joyce Libsack and Lucille Ki~d explained the volunteer "Income
Tax Counseling For The Elderly" program, which is sponsored
under American Association Of Retired Persons (AARP) together
with the Internal Revenue, along with the assistance of NARF,
(National Association Of Retired Federal employees). This
program will be available at the Sheridan Community Park
Center starting February 3, Mondays and Fridays from 12:00
PoM. to 4:00 P.M., with the exception of Washington's Birthday
holiday. This service is given at no charge and is not
limited exclusively to the elderly. The NARF organization
does not accept any payment for this service, however, AARP
does reimburse the counselors for mileage and incidental
expenses. Mr. Collins questioned if they had extra forms
available? Ms. Libsack explained they have all a master list
of all necessary forms.
Betsy Harris, Animal Control Officer, showed off another
puppy, a male cocker spaniel/pekinese mix, about 3-months old
and announced he was available for adoption. Betsy also
announced they have a beautiful 2-year old Siberian Husky
(black/white) that is also available for adoption, along with
the "pointer" they featured last week. Cost of adoption fee
is $5.00.
Rob Schnidler, President Of Kitsap Physician Service (KPS),
expressed concern over some information give out by the Fire
Department to the City Council during a Study Session that
related to collection of ambulance fees. The information
intimated that Kitsap Physician Service was slow in responding
to billing on ambulance charges. Mr. Schnidler gave a brief
review of the history of Kitsap Physician Service within the
community. When the City Fire Department decided to go into
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the ambulance billing business, KPS provided some services to
the City helping to set up that system and provided provider
services support to the billing department as well as
providing their electronic claims submission activity to the
City so the City could bill all their insurance claims through
KPS to any insurance in United States. As of this date, KPS
had not received any calls from the Fire Department relating
to "slow pay" or any other reason. Mr. Schnidler provided a
handout showing the total billings received ($11,050.00);
billings disallowed (1,827.87); allowed by KPS ($9,222.13);
and patient responsibility (deductible/coinsurance) ($325.00);
paid by primary insurance ($4,700.00); and those paid by KPS
($4,197.13). President Horton assured Mr. Schnidler that the
staff report presented to Council on this issue did not come
in the form of a "problem", rather it was simply explaining
demographics of who pays for the service rendered, i.e.,
Medicare, private carrier or the individuals themselves. If
the news article portrayed that the information was in the
fo£m of a complaint, she assured him that was not correct.
Mr. Johnson pointed out that in the report given by the Fire
Department personnel, the State of Washington was the agency
that was the "bad guy" in responding to billings. Mr.
Schnidler stated he had informed City personnel when they
first thought of undertaking the ALS Ambulance Service that
the State of Washington will never pay the full amount of
charges. They decide how much they will pay and the City
would have to write off the difference. In most cases that
amounts to 50 cents on the dollar and if the City wants to
collect the full amount of charges then those uncollected
costs need to be shifted to other payers, like KPS, and they
end up carrying the load for what Medicaid does not pay. Mr.
Johnson emphasized that KPS has been one of the best business
interests in the City and one of the City's shinning stars and
he was pleased to be working locally with an insurance
provider. President Horton related several complimentary
comments made about KPS at the time the City's contract with
KPS was approved.
Don Larson, 135 Rainier Avenue, President of Kitsap Dive Shop,
reported the Vancouver Maritime Museum contacted him
concerning the Kitsap Diving Association's proposal for an
underwater park in Bremerton using old US Navy inactive ships.
James P Delgado, Executive Director of the Vancouver Maritime
Museum, has extensive experience diving in areas where
inactive ships had been used for creating an underwater park
and strongly supported such a proposal for Bremerton.
Recently, Mr. Larson attended a meeting of the National
Oceanic Hemispheric Administration (NOHA) and learned they are
considering two marine sanctuaries for Washington State, one
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in the San Juan Islands and one on the outer coast of
Washington.
6A - BREMERTON OVERWATER PARK UPDATE, ~AB92-012
Dave Baker, City Engineer, reported Monthly Report %3 was
distributed to Council last week. He emphasized the project
is on schedule and the reinforced concrete deck planking from
the First Street Dock to in front of the pump station on
Second street is in place. The concrete retaining walls that
go between the overwater structure and the parking lot are
pretty much in place, so that portion of the dock is looking
very much like a boardwalk. The 18" piling, which will be
driven from the pump station at the end of 2nd Street to the
Turner Joy, are in Seattle being painted and fitted with
driving shoes and scheduled for delivery to Bremerton the week
of January 20. Pile driving will begin as soon as those
piling arrive.
In response to a concern expressed by a gentlemen who claimed
that the reinforcing bar was not epoxy coated, he was correct
in that it was not epoxy coated. His question and concern is
a good concern and the decision was consciously made not to
use epoxy coated bar for two main reasons: (1) expense - epoxy
coated rebar is considerably more expensive than regular
reinforcing bar; (2) the "jury is still out" with regard to
the professional people on whether epoxy coated rebar does the
job that it should do. He pointed out epoxy coating is a
coating that goes over the outside of the reinforcing bar. Mr.
Baker described a situation where a reinforcing bar in a beam
provided the "tensile strength". It has not been proven that
the epoxy covering will allow the concrete to adhere properly
to the reinforcing bar. If there is epoxy coating, then the
deformations on the bar are not anywhere near as prominent so
there is a tendency, possibility and concern in the
engineering world that epoxy coated bars are not necessarily
what they are cracked up to be. The second concern that the
gentlemen commented on was the fact that water seeps into and
destroy those bars - the beam being referred to here is a mass
concrete beam (2 1/2 inches minimum) of concrete cover outside
of all of the bars in those beams. In response to the concern
about water seeping into that crack or joint - there is no
joint, but there is a cold construction joint, which will have
an epoxy coating. Secondly, that joint is three feet above
the high water line, and it will get splashed and sprayed with
salt water, but is not submerged in the water. President
Horton questioned Portico's recommendation on that issue? Mr.
Baker stated Portico did not make the recommendation, the
concrete reinforcing was designed by DCI D'Amato - consulting
engineering firm. President morton questioned if their
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recommendation included wording stating not to go for the
epoxy coating? Mr. Baker stated yes. President Horton stated
according to her calculations, the project should have
expended approximately $825,000 and the December cash flow
chart indicates a figure of approximately $400,000, and she
questioned if there was a reason for the $400,000 figure? Mr.
Baker stated the contract did not get started as early as
hoped and as the report mentions the spending is about one
month behind that which was predicted. President Horton noted
then Council could anticipate a larger figure spent next
month. Mr. Baker stated it would probably be equal to the
anticipated month prior.
Mr. Overson noted concrete has a porous nature, particularly
before it is cured and salt water has adverse affect on metal
rebar and that was why the epoxy coating was developed. He
was quite interested that the decision was made particularly
in a salt-water environment. He believed there may be some
influence on the expected life of the product. He hoped that
they haven't taken some cost measures, efficiently or economy
measures in the concrete that would adversely affect the
decision to save money by not using the epoxy coated rebar.
He noted apparently the City is getting $186,000 worth of
inspections from a host of people who can certify that this
structure will stand for 30-40 years. He questioned if the
city was getting any certification of such a life span? Mr.
Baker stated no, the inspection the City is receiving today
says that the construction underway is being constructed as it
is specified.
Mr. Estes questioned what will take care of the expansion and
contraction of the concrete? Mr. Baker stated there are
expansion and contraction joints built in the structure from
one end to the other. Mr. Estes questioned if they could be
viewed from the outside? Mr. Baker stated the expansion
joints will be visible when it is finished.
Mr. Waibel stated when he made the comment he did not want an
old out-dated and misleading diagram of the project area what
he expected was a replacement. Mr. Baker stated there will
be a new one. Mr. Waibel stated in terms of specifications he
questioned what did the City expect to be the life span
without having to totally reconstruct this two million
structure. Mr. Baker stated he did not know as he was not
involved in this project at the initial design stage. He
assumed the City would be looking at a "50" year life. Don
Pratt, Director of Community Development, stated during the
planning of the project there was a term used and "a value
engineering analysis" performed that dete=mined present day
cost versus life expectancy and balance maintenance in with
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that. There is documentation of the value analysis that was
done and can be provided at a later date. President Horton
questioned if he knew the life expectancy of the structure?
Mr. Pratt stated not at this time, however, there was a
specific City review and discussion of it before the
specifications were written. Mr. oveNson stated the project
was moving rapidly and was larger than he had expected and
recommended that everyone take a look at it as it progresses.
He questioned if there was a date when access to the Turner
Joy would be possible from the boardwalk? Mr. Baker stated he
would hold to not before May 5. President Horton questioned
if Mr. Baker could come back next month with the "longevity"
factor of the project? Mr. Baker stated yes.
8A - ORDINANCE NO. 4355 (SECOND READING) CONDEMNATION OF
PROPERTY~ ~AB92-006
Public comment - none.
#1978 M/S/C/U(Johnson/Estes) to pass Ordinance %4355, on second
reading, relating to the expenditure of general funds with
which to pay the cost of acquiring land through condemnation,
the land to be used for the purpose of constructing the City's
public works complex.
8B - AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACTR
WITH BREMERTONMAIN STREET ASSOCIATION, KITSAP COUNTY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND BREMERTON/KITSAP COUNTY VISITOR AND
CONVENTION BUREAU FOR 1992, ~AB92-011
Council authorization is required for contract signature.
Public comment - none.
Mr. Overson stated he felt the Main Street contract should
have more specifics in it and Council's intent was
demonstrated that they hoped a more definable product could be
provided.
Mr. Colvin noted Council was aware the contract was to be
drawn up and questioned why Council had not given input at
that time? Mr. Overson noted Council had given input.
President Horton stated it was Council's intention that Mr.
Osguthorp, the City's downtown Planner, review and actually
work up the scope of work. Mr. Colvin questioned if Mr.
Osguthorp reviewed the contract? President Horton stated he
did subsequently review it, however, when it was submitted two
weeks ago to be placed on the Agenda she called Mr. Osguthorp
to ask some questions and at that time he indicated he had not
seen that document. Mr. Colvin questioned if Mr. Osguthorp
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had a problem with the contract as written? Presi4ent Horton
stated when she talked with Mr. Osguthorp in November about
some ideas for the Main Street contract, he indicated he did
have some ideas. Subsequently, Mr. Pratt stated that he and
Mr. Osguthorp concurred in the proposed agreement, however,
she still felt Mr. Osguthorp had some good ideas as far as
things he would like to see included in that scope of work.
Mr. Johnson stated he would support this proposal, however, he
did have concerns with items on the Main Street scope of work.
He felt there were already enough Parking Committees and he
was not sure he wanted a downtown "theme" design for downtown.
He emphasized he would be looking at the end of the year for
a tangible that they didn't have at this time this year. He
did think, like in the case of the EDC, there are some
specific things specified as an end product. He noted there
are some dedicated people in the Main Street organization and
if they cooperate with the City and other entities he felt
everything would work out.
President Horton stated she was concerned that Main street's
scope of work was a little looser than the others, and if in
fact the economy remains as flat as it is at this point, she
felt the public had every right to ask what has Main Street,
EDC and VCB done this past year, what was expected of them and
did they deliver that product. If the scopes of work are
"squishy" and hard to identify a deliverable, Council may find
it hard to justify, in November of this year, to further fund
those organizations at the level they have been funded, or at
all. She would preferred having a tighter scope of work.
Mr. Dawkins questioned if it would be possible to have Mr.
Osguthorp sit as an advisory on the VCB, EDC and Main Street
boards? Don Pratt, Director Of Community Development, stated
Mr. Osguthorp is heavily involved with Main Street, he meets
· with them every time there is a board meeting and he also
meets with several other groups. There is not a separation of
purpose nor is there an ignorance on his part for what Main
Street is doing. He considers Main Street to be the
preeminent downtown constituency group that he needs to know
where they are going and they need to know where he is going
and he is managing that political relationship. EDC is
somewhat different in that he does not have a very close
relationship with them and the responsibility for monitoring
them was under Mr. Pratt's jurisdiction. When downtown issues
come up, Mr. Osguthorp is brought into the discussion and that
is how they manage that relationship. Planning is most
jealous of Mr. Osguthorp's time right now and not interested
in his becoming involved with other parts of the City.
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Dawkins questioned if the City had enough input into these
organizations? Mr. Pratt stated yes, Mr. Osguthorp has
completed a search of who the key constituents groups are in
the downtown.
Mr. Overson stated when Mr. Osguthorp first came to Bremerton
one of his primary goals, at that time, was to develop a
Retail Marketing Plan. He questioned if there was an easy
explanation how that is now a Main Street Goal? Mr. Pratt
stated Mr. Osguthorp understands that the production of a
Retail Marketing Plan is his responsibility to get it done.
Our hope is that he'll be able to help organize, equip and
motivate a group of people to do the work with him acting as
a consultant. We feel confident that Main Street is the group
that needs to do that and will be taking on that
responsibility. The relationship and schedule have not been
completely defined and agreed to yet and that was the primary
reason the Mayor felt strongly that we not mandate that in the
contract at this time, but hold Mr. Osguthorp responsible for
getting it underway. Mr. Overson stated that then leaves some
fussiness in the contract because it is Main Street's product
and he did not feel that was fair if Mr. Osguthorp did all the
work. Mr. Pratt stated they feel strongly that the important
thing is that it get done and they did not want to confuse the
contract unilaterally with who should be doing it right now.
They are anxious for Mr. Osguthorp to get involved and give
recommendations to the Mayor and then Council.
#2116 M/S/C(Waibel/Collins) City Council approve the contracts for
Professional Services with Bremerton Main Street, Kitsap
County Economic Development Council, and Bremerton/Kitsap
County Visitor and Convention Bureau
Vote: In Favor: Waibel, Collins, Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson,
Overson, Estes, Fitz
Opposed: Horton
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With no further business meeting adjourned at 6:50 p.m.
KATHLEEN L. McCLUSKEY, City Clerk
HORTON, Council President
City of Bremerton
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