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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/27/93TAPE #1084 UNAPPROVED DRAFT CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES ~3NU]&RY 27, 1993 The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers, 239 4th Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, January 27, 1993, at 5:30 p.m., with Council President Eileen Fitz presiding. Council members present were Richard Neville, Lynn Horton, C.R. "Tiny" Collins, Hank Waibel, Morrie Dawkins, A1 Colvin, Russ Johnson, and Lon Overson. Also present were Assistant City Attorney David Apodaca and City Clerk, Kathleen McCluskey. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council President Fitz and Invocation given by Councilman A1 Colvin. President Fitz announced Councilman Waibel and Collins were delayed in Seattle due to ferry problems and would join the meeting later on. Also, she announced Council would adjourn to an Executive Session immediately following the Council meeting to discuss "Labor Negotiations". #0020 #0038 CONSENT AGENDA A. Minutes of Meeting - January 6, 1993 #AB93-010 B. Minutes of Meeting - January 13, 1993 #AB93-011 M/S/C/U(Horton/Colvin) to approve Consent Agenda as presented. CLAIMS/WARRANT REGISTERS Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as required by RCW 42.24.080, and those expense reimbursement claims certified as required by RCW 42.24.090, have been recorded on a listing that had been made available to the Council. M/S/C/U(Colvin/Dawkins) on January 27, 1993, the Council does approve for payment those vouchers included and further described as follows: 163177 through 163271, 163273 through 163275, 163291 through 163295, and 163338 through 163539 in the total amount of $873,796.79; and Regular Payroll for the period ending January 15, 1993, in the amount of $505,241.74. COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 2 of 16 Mayor Mentor thanked everyone for the way they responded to the affects of the January 20th storm. He noted many City employees responded very well to emergency needs. Also, he acknowledged a "job well done" by Puget Power crews, Telephone and TVrepair crews. Reports have come in about grocery stores and building material businesses providing extra services even though they had to use flashlights to find items for their customers. He announced Olympic Landfill will accept fallen tree limbs and/or branches, at no charge, until Sunday, January 31, to help with the clean up. Community service workers are assisting City Street Department crews in cleaning up after the storm, as well as general clean up along neighborhood streets. Mayor mentor asked that anyone who is aware of an area where the sidewalks are grown over with vegetation that needs to be cleared and/or cleaned up to please call his office. He reported he is advertising for volunteers to serve on City boards and commissions and anyone interested may pick up an application from his office. This past week he had the opportunity to go to Peace Lutheran School and serve as moderator for a Geography Contest. Also, he was a Guest Reader at the Green Mountain Elementary School. Mr. Neville announced he is trying to start up a District #5 Neighborhood Association and still looking for volunteers. He requested anyone interested in participating in this endeavor to call the City Council Office and leave their name and telephone number. Mrs. Hotton on January 15, she attended a symposium on Economic Diversification, sponsored by the Puget Sound Council Of Governments. She brought back lots of good materials as to what other cities are doing as far as economic redevelopment and diversification. She felt that meeting was a good forerunner to the Symposium planned for Kitsap County's Economic Diversification in March. She found it interesting to hear speakers talk about the same sort of ills that Bremerton, Kitsap County and Puget Sound Region are experiencing. During her participation on the task force relating to the Bremerton waterfront Hotel/Convention Facility land Marketplace Analysis, an important thing discussed was the fact that we should be developing an economic package to present to potential developers. At that time, there were also discussions relating to the Community Reinvestment Act, how that can be promoted and a community plan developed to act as an incentive to developers. She believed those were two issues that the City needed to work on in conjunction with the Economic Development Council and Bremerton Area Chamber Of Commerce. TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 3 of 16 Mr. Johnson thanked all of the utility workers who were servicing customers following the January 20th storm. He particularly commended the local Puget Power Company and Bill Enger for the type of organization he has put together. Several of his neighbors lost use of their phones so he became a kind of "phone central" for some people. On several occasions he made contact with both the Bellevue and Bremerton Puget Power offices. When call were made to the Bremerton Puget Power Office, they were more helpful and did call back to check on progress being made in that neighborhood area. He also commended KITZ for the super job they did in keeping the public updated on the storm and following conditions. Mr. Colvin stated he echoed Mr. Johnson's remarks. He reminded everyone that NARF is sponsoring a Tax Service for senior citizens, commencing February 1, 12:00 (noon) to 4:00 P.M., at the Sheridan Park & Recreation Center. He has received many comments on the City's recycling program and questioned if Mayor Mentor was also receiving recycling calls? Mayor Mentor stated yes, he has received a number of calls and letters from the public, which he responds to letting them know that recycling and extending the life of landfills are nation wide concerns. Mr. Colvin stated he also received several calls relating to property tax increases. He emphasized the City Council is not to blame for increases in property tax. He emphasized the residents themselves are responsible for some of the increase due to their approving levies issues. He thanked Earl Smith, Executive Director Of the Economic Development Council of Kitsap County, for proposing to raise funds in lieu of Mayor Mentor's proposed Parking Tax. He questioned if the Mayor had received any report on such fund raising? Mayor Mentor stated he was pleased that several people volunteered to put together some type of fund raising to provide the needed funds. However, as of this date, he had not received a response to that offer. Mr. Colvin announced District #1's next District meeting will be February 25, 7:00 P.M. Mr. Dawkins extended a special "thank you" to all the Utility crews and City employees for their assistance during the recent aftermath of the January 20 storm. He noted his residence is in the only block along Callahan that seems to always be without electricity during storms. He noted last year during this time the weather was much milder and Golf Course revenues for the month of January were fantastic. However, this year that would not be the case, but the course is in excellent shape. Mrs. Fits stated she also wanted to thank the Power Company, TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 4 of 16 Cable TV, and Telephone Company crews for their assistance. She was one of those who received a call back from the Power Company, which she felt was a great gesture. She announced Assistant City Attorney Leila Mills and her husband are the proud parents of a baby boy, born Saturday and weighed in at 10 lbs. 9 oz. Mrs. Fitz reported she received a complaint on parking and as a result is asking for cooperation from Shipyard commuters who park in residential areas to please allow space between vehicles so that they can moved when needed. A young mother's vehicle was rendered useless because commuters pulled up against her rear bumper and backed into her front bumper, necessitating that she have a family member come home so that she could get a ride to her job. Currently, there is no ordinance to address such a situation, therefore, she urged commuters to please be considerate when parking in residential neighborhoods. PUBLIC RECOGNITION Don Atkinson, Bremerton Main Street Association, stated he had served with a number of citizens on the Citizens Advisory Committee for the past several months dealing with the proposed new access to downtown Bremerton. That committee's process is on going and a public meeting is scheduled for February 8th, 6:30 P.M., at the Washington Mutual Community Room (previously known as Great Northwest Community Room). Parametrix, Inc., will make the presentation on this topic and anyone interested is welcome to attend. BetsV Harris, Bremerton Animal Control Officer, presented the ,,Pet-Of-The-Week", a 10 week old male puppy named "Joey", who had received his first set of shots and is available for adoption. Ms. Harris noted that "Joey" had behaved exemplary during his visit to the Forest Ridge Convalescent Center. 6A - PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH LELAND CONSULTING GROUP FOR THE HOTEL/CONVENTION FACILITY AND MARKETPLACE ANALYSIS FOR THE BREMERTON CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT (CBD) AND WATERFRONT, #AB93-012 The Hotel/Convention Facility and Marketplace Analysis of the Bremerton CBD and Waterfront project was initiated in 1992 as a cooperative effort of the City of Bremerton, downtown property and business owners, and civic groups who also participated in funding the project. Leland Consulting Group was unanimously selected by the Project Team (consisting of representatives of the groups described above) after interviewing firms who responded to a public Request for Proposals. The action before the City Council is to approve the Professional Services Agreement between the City and Leland Consulting Group. TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 5 of 16 Carol Dickinson, Development Manager, stated this item was scheduled for the January 20th City Council meeting, however, due to the stormthat meeting was postponed. As stated in the introduction, this is culminating the second step of this public process to select a consultant to advise not only the City but civic organizations, business owners and .property owners in the downtown area as to what would be the best types of businesses to recruit into the central business district and to advise whether or not it is economically and financially feasible to develop a hotel/convention facility, if not on the Bremerton Lumber site on the waterfront elsewhere in the uptown part of town. Leland Consulting Group, a consulting firm from Portland Oregon, represented by Ed Starkey, were unanimously selected by the Project Team after spending two days interviewing five firms who responded to the RFP. Leland Consulting Group responded to both aspects of the RFP: (1) the economic redevelopment of the central business district; (2) the analysis for the hotel/convention facility. It was determined that this firm met all requirements and that they could provide the best results by having both pieces of the RFP provided by one firm at a cost of $30,000. Background on funding for this project included the Parks Commission and City Council agreeing to fund $10,000 for this proposal out of parking revenue from the Bremerton Lumber site with the remaining $20,000 being solicited from other sources within the community. They have essentially reached the goal of raising that $20,000 from private business people, especially some new business people from the far reaches of the downtown area ($50 - $500), civil organizations represented by Bremerton Main street Association, Flagship, Bremerton Area Chamber Of Commerce, Port Of Bremerton and Kitsap Transit. Approximately one week ago, funding was $2,000 short of the $20,000 goal. Bremerton Main Street Association stepped up and agreed to pledge the difference so that the contract could be signed and the project underway with continued collecting of pledges. Ms. Dickinson requested the following changes to the contract: termination date of contract will be May 15, 1993, not March 31, 1993 (for the following reasons: (1) to reflect the four week delay in signing the contract; (2) to add two additional weeks so that Leland would be able to make a presentation of their findings to Council at the May Study Session). The second recommended change would be to Exhibit A, a Schedule For Completion Of Products, which was handed out indicating the extended time period of the process. TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 6 of 16 Mrs. Horton stated she is a Project Team member and was very impressed with the fact that Mr. Leland is planning on scheduling meetings with not only the City Council and Parks Commission and various facets of the community but included in that are contingencies from the Bankers Association, Real Estate Association and people who do local appraising. She felt that was a key element in getting this project "off the ground". She emphasized Mr. Leland is very interested in implementation and project delivery and she believes he will do an admiral job on the project. Public comment - none. Mr. Johnson questioned if there was a reason why their task - market analysis to incorporate real experience ran fromApril - October and shouldn't there be another section that speaks to what they are going to do? Ms. Dickinson noted Mr. Johnson made a good point. It was desired to make sure that in the body of the contract the consultant needed to know they needed to do this work over the summer and it was her error that it was not included on Exhibit A of the contract. She felt that could be added. Mr. Johnson questioned if that time period should be extended and was it based on the tourist season? Ms. Dickinson stated what was wanted was to have a report and a design plan that is completed and something they can proceed to work with. It was there thinking that should the answer come back that the Bremerton Lumber site does work for hotel/convention facility, they wanted to be able to advertise that piece of property in the fall of the year. And when they do that advertising, she wants the tourist information, collected over the summer time, added into the RFP. Mr. Johnson felt it would be appropriate to close that portion of the project sometime in September instead of extending it another month. Councilman Waibel joined the Council meeting at 6:05 P.M. Ms. Dickinson emphasized because there are a lot of tourist at the end of September and early October, they want to include that information. Mr. Johnson stated he was not sure he wanted to give the consultant until the end of October. #1008 M/S/C/(Horton/Dawkins) motion to approve the Professional Services Agreement with Leland Consulting Group for the Hotel/Convention Facility and Marketplace Analysis of the Bremerton CBD and Waterfront, including the amendments as stated by Ms. Dickinson. Vote on motion: In Favor: Overson, Neville, Horton, Fitz, #1088 TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 7 of 16 Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson Abstain: Waibel Motion carried. 6B - KITSAP PHYSICIANS SERVICE CONTRACT, #AB93-013 Attached is the amendment to our contract with KPS for medical insurance. This extends the contract to 12/31/93. The rates remain the same as 1992. Mr. Dawkins stated he liked the idea of having a contract that had not increased. Mrs. Horton reported when the City went out looking at various options for health care approximately three years, it was in a very precarious situation not knowing if it was to the City's benefit to leave the group policy at that time. Based on these rates and those over the past three years, she felt it was absolutely to the City's and citizens benefit. Public comment - none. Mr. Johnson questioned the status of the contingency reserve account and whether or not it fully funded? Kathleen McCluskey, City Clerk, stated the account is in excess of fully funded and is the City's reserve so that. funds can be returned only to the medical program via reduced premiums, new services or new programs within the plan. Also, the City does receive interest on the fund because it is a reserve fund. M/S/C(Colvin/Neville) to approve contract with Kitsap Physicians Services for 1993. Vote on motion: In ~avor: Overson, Neville, Horton, Fitz, Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson Abstain: Waibel Motion carried. 6C - PUBLIC DEFENDER CONFLICT CASE CONTRACT - DAVID ROVANG, #AB93-014 AS yOU may recall,the City contracted with Mr. Rovang for conflict and excess cases in November, 1992. Unfortunately, we were unable to commence the contract due to a court ruling in favor of the current primary Public Defender that they are entitled to all excess cases. Therefore, this contract is necessary for conflict cases only. Kathleen McCluskey, City Clerk, stated the City is in the third year of a three-year contract and at the end of that time period the City will be going into a different #1241 #1333 #1381 TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 8 of 16 relationship, whether it be in-house or contracted out. Mr. Colvin requested the difference between conflict cases only. David ADodata briefly outlined the kind of relationship that could be classified as "conflict" cases. M/S/C/U(Neville/Colvin) to approve contract with David Rovang for conflict Public Defender cases. 6D - APPOINTMENT TO PLANNING COMMI88ION - WAYNE OLSEN, #AB93- 015 There is a vacancy on the Planning Commission. It is recommended that the vacancy be filled by Wayne Olsen. Attached is his application for appointment. Mayor Mentor stated a number of people have volunteered to fill the vacancy and after interviewing several of them, he selected Wayne Olsen. Mr. Olsen is a downtown Bremerton business owner and the person being replaced on the Planning Commission also was a Bremerton businessman. He views Mr. Olsen as an outstanding citizen of Bremerton and Kitsap County and urged Council to confirm his appointment to the Planning Commission. Public comment - none. M/S/C(Dawkins/Colvin) to confirm the appointment of Wayne Olsen to the Planning Commission. Vote on motion: In favor: Abstain: Overson, Neville, Horton, Waibel, Fitz, Dawkins, Colvin Johnson Motion carried 7A - ORDINANCE NO. 4401 (SECOND READING) ADOPTING A SALARY PLAN FOR MANAGEMENT AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF; AND AMENDING CHAPTER 2.50 OF THE BREMERTON MUNICIPAL CODE, #AB93-008 Public comment - none. M/S/C(Horton/Colvin) to pass Ordinance No. 4401 on second reading, adopting a salary plan for management and professional staff; and amending Chapter 2.50 of the Bremerton Municipal Code. Vote on motion: Motion carried. In favor: Overson, Neville, Horton, Fitz Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson Opposed: Waibel TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 9 of 16 7B - ORDINANCE (FIRST READING) CONDEMNATION OF PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF FIRE TOWER CONSTRUCTION, #AN93-016 In order to train its firefighters, the Fire Department needs to construct a fire tower. Council has directed that this facility be located with other City facilities now under design on Oyster Bay, and that this training facility should be built as a part of the Public Works Complex. Therefore, the City is in need of acquiring through condemnation additional parcels of land adjacent to the present Public Works Complex site. Fire Chief Mick McKinley stated the reason for this action was due to the construction phase of the Public Works Complex and the ability to tie in some economies into both projects at the same time. The proposed tower would replace the existing facility currently located in Evergreen Park. The usage factor in that area has increased to the point where it is dangerous for firefighters and the public to interact at that site. Therefore, they are looking for a more isolated area away from the public, which they feel is near the Public Works Complex site. Public comment - none. Mr. Dawkins questioned the specific location of the proposal lots? Chief McKinleY stated the four lots are located directly north of the northern most part of the Public Works site. The amount of acreage recommended by their architect as the minimum size is 2 acres and the subject lots amount to approximately 1.90 acres. Mr. Colvinquestioned if the fire tower would be used by other Fire Districts? Chief McKinlev stated yes, he was looking at some type of cooperative effort between the Fire Districts that may also include some funding of up front construction costs. In the event an outside Fire District brought in an instructor, by having the facility in that location the City could utilize that instructor at no cost to the City. Mr. Overson stated it was his understanding that funding for construction of the fire tower would come from the Bond that was passed by the residents of Bremerton. Chief McKinley stated yes. Mr. Overson stated as he recalled the proposal, it did not include procuring $106,000 worth of real estate. Chief McKinley stated that was correct. The original Public Works Complex proposal included some land for the fire tower, however, the architect designing that project did not realize the needs of the fire tower and placed service equipment buildings around the tower, which essentially put them in the TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 10 of 16 same scenario as that at Evergreen Park. At that point, the Fire Department communicated that either more land needed to be acquired or they would choose "not" to build at this time. Mr. Overson stated a concern he had was Council did not have a presentation that would demonstrate that the Fire Department had the necessary funding to build what is being proposed. Chief McKinley stressed the information handed out during a previous Study Session contained information on Oak Harbor Fire Department's fire tower facility, which was built for approximately $160,000. Currently, the Fire Bond provides approximately $350,000 and until construction starts those funds do generate interest. Mrs. Hotton emphasized Chief McKinley's presentation to the City Council at a Study Session was a very good presentation. It was very complete and did exhibit this project is within the allotted budget and other concerns such as drainage was addressed. The Oak Harbor fire tower facility appeared to be a facility that could fill the needs of the Fire Department. She urged Council to approve this proposal even though it included acquiring property, which was not part of the original proposal. Mr. Overson stated he supports the Fire Department on this program, however, he was not present at the Study Session where this material was discussed nor did he receive a copy of the handout presented at that time. Councilman Collins joined the meeting at 6:30 P.M. #1681 M/S/C(Waibel/Johnson) motion to approve the proposed ordinance on first reading, relating to expenditure of Fire Department Fund 307 with which to pay the cost of acquiring land through condemnation, the land to be used for the Vote on motion: Motion carried. In favor: Abstain: Overson, Neville, Horton, Waibel, Fitz, Dawkins, Colvin, Johnson Collins 7C - ORDINANCE #4402 (EMERGENCYREADING) AUTHORIZING THE ISSUE OF A $1 MILLION TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY, #AB93-017 Due to the timing of revenue collection, particularly property taxes, the City's General Fund will be in a deficit cash position during much of the year. This short-term borrowing is intended to finance this temporary cash deficit. Rich Hanna, City Treasurer, requested that the following information be added to the proposed Ordinance: "Section 2, llth line add "2.7%"; Section 9, last paragraph second line - TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 11 of 16 "dated January 21st, 1993". The proposed Ordinance makes reference andadopts by reference two different documents: (1) Purchase Offer by Seafirst National Bank; (2) preliminary Official Statement prepared by the Underwriting and the document used in their effort to market these bonds to eventual purchasers. Because of canceled meetings due to weather, it was not possible to include those two documents earlier. The Underwriter is Seattle-First National Bank, who have made an offer to purchase the Note issue at an interest rate of 2.7% and additionally with an Underwriter's discount of 1/4 of 1%, both being viewed as very favorable rates. The Ordinance does include "emergency" language, which will require a unanimous vote for approval. The reason for that language is to minimize the amount of time between passage of the Ordinance and the City's ability to accept the purchase offer. Mr. Collins requested a more detailed explanation for the citizenry as to why the Tax Anticipation Note is needed. Mr. Mr. Hanna stated the City is not going "broke" and not borrowing money to run the City other than to cover temporary cash flow shortages. Property taxes in particular represent approximately 1/3 of the General Fund revenues for the City and the first half of those taxes is not due in the County until the end of April. Therefore, for that reason the General Fund requires an outside infusion of cash to carry the City until the City is in receipt of those first property taxes. Mr. Overson noted borrowing under this method is actually profitable for the City. Mr. Hanna explained the City, as a municipal corporation, can borrow at tax exempt rates and are able to invest the proceeds of that borrowing to the extent that they are not needed to finance the cash flow, as described, can invest those unused proceeds at a taxable rate and generally earns more in interest revenue than is paid out as interest on the notes. Mr. Overson pointed out if the City had the additional million dollars to operate, which was a City goal at one time, we would be collecting the full interest rate on that one million dollars. Mr. Hanna stated Mr. Overson was correct, as shown on both tabular data and graphic data it would take roughly $800,000 of cash available at January 1 of each year in order for the City to not be in deficit position at any time of the year. Mr. Colvin questioned the rate of interest earned on the portion that is reinvested? Mr. Hanna stated a one year Treasury Note purchased in the market today would yield #2088 #2156 TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 12 of 16 approximately 3.4%. Public comment - none. M/S/C/U(Johnson/Colvin) to pass Ordinance #4402, on emergency reading, authorizing the issue of a $1 million Tax Anticipation Note and declaring an emergency. 7D - ORDINANCE (FIRST READING) REPEALING ORDINANCE #4220, VACATING PORTIONS OF KITSXP WAY ABUTTING LOTS 25 THROUGH 28, BLOCK A, OYSTER BAY ADDITION, #AD93-018 Ordinance#420 was passed in July 1989. A condition of the right-of-way vacation was that the applicant pay compensation as established by the City Attorney's office. Just compensation was determined to be $15,166.00. The vacation was never finalized due to lack of payment. Kathleen McCluskeV, City Clerk, stated the reason this issue was before Council at this time is to "take it off the books" since the vacation is not going through. Public comment - none. M/S/C/U(Johnson/Waibel) to approve Ordinance, on first reading, repealing Ordinance #4220, vacating portions of Kitsap Way abutting lots 25 through 28, Block A, Oyster Bay Addition. 7E - ORDINANCE (FIRST READING) RESTRICTION OF OVERSIZED VEHICLES ON CITY STREETS, #AB93-019 There have been numerous complaints of oversized vehicles parked in City right-of-way that makes it difficult to see or maneuver around. These vehicles are being moved once every 72 hours and then reparked months at a time. The passing of this ordinance amendment should help eliminate the storage of large vehicles on right-of-ways for longer than 2 hours unless a permit is issued. Deborah Goodell, Supervisor for Parking and Animal Control, explained the need for the proposed Ordinance came about to address situations where construction vehicles, sometimes four and eight at a time, are parked in residential areas. Such vehicles include dump trucks and flatbed trailers exceeding 30 feet in length and as opposed to the vehicles being moved every 72 hours there basically are no restrictions as to how long such vehicles can be parked on those streets. Other problem vehicles include old "retired" school buses and horse trailers. There is a safety issue as far as City streets being as narrow as they are and primarily built for TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 13 of 16 just residential and smaller vehicles. When the larger vehicles are being parked days or weeks at a time, other motorist are taking their lives in their hands when they have to maneuver around them. There have been an average of 2-5 complaints per week over a typical two month period on different vehicles in different areas. Mr. Dawkins questioned if someone could park a dump truck in their front yard? Ms. Goodell stated as long as the vehicle was parked on the planting strip or street, her department has jurisdiction. If such a vehicle was parked in the front yard, that would come under the Planning Department's jurisdiction under the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Dawkins stated someone near his residence parks a dump truck in their front yard. Mr. Waibel questioned the penalty for a Civil Infraction and would there be a high fine than actually costs of parking a vehicle? Ms. Goodell stated at this point the penalty would be $10.00 per violation. Theoretically, if the area was limited to two hours they could technically violate that limit 12 times during the day, amounting to $120.00 per day. Mr. Colllns stated in the City's previous ordinance there was provision for getting special permits for visitors with RV's. He noted the proposed ordinance did not speak to that issue. Ms. Goodell stated it is addressed that they would be allowed to park longer than the two hours provided a Right-Of-Way Use Permit is obtained. Mr. Collins stated he felt the public needed to have a clear understanding of how to go about getting a permit for RV parking. Ms. Goodell explained that initially the Parking Regulators would give a warning the first time they came upon such a vehicle. The Right-Of-Way Permit is issued by the Planning Department and she felt Council did have the opportunity to define, through the Planning Department, what is to be excluded from that permit. Mrs. Hotton stated maybe the RV issue should be treated under the Visitor Pass process rather than the Right-Of-Way Permit. Ms. Goodell stated there are no restrictions through the Visitor Permit process and someone with a dump truck could then park for a longer period of time. Mrs. Horton suggesting modifying the name of the permit so that people could understand what it is to be used for. Ms. Goodell wanted to clear up the issue of a moving van being parked in a residential area. Moving vans are already addressed in the City ordinance...commercial vehicles that are in the process of doing business have the right to exceed time limitations. Mr. Colvin expressed concern that someone from out-of-town TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 14 of 16 would not be aware of such a City ordinance and questioned if there was some means of notifying owners? Ms. Goodell stated current policy is to give a "warning notice" at the time of the first offense, which is documented and further checks can be made to see if a previous warning had been issued. On the general parking in the downtown area, they do not check priors and written warnings due to limitations of equipment. Mr. Johnson stated if there is a problem with dump trucks and school buses then an ordinance should be written to address those particular vehicles. He felt the intent of the proposed ordinance was great, however, what happens is the harassment of people with tickets who don't need to have tickets. He felt that a 20 foot vehicle was not that large and two hours was too short a time period. He emphasized he could not support the ordinance as presented. Ms. Goodell stated she had a problem defining the RV - a bus can be converted into a RV type use. There are no set standards for recreational vehicles. Mr. Johnson noted he has a 30+ ft. RV parked across the street from his residence, which is not causing any safety problem. He believed that vehicle is on City right-of- way and since it is not a problem for him, he did not want to get the owners in any trouble. Ms. Goodell re-emphasized the safety issue in keeping City streets clear of large, obstructing vehicles. Mr. Waibel emphasized what is being proposed is the addition of trailers and other commercial vehicles. Mr. Goodell noted if the city received a complaint on an RV or any vehicle being parked in excess of 72 hours it could be ticketed. Mr. Johnson stated he agreed with Ms. Goodell regarding vehicles parked on the street, but did not support the right-of-way issue. He did not want to harass anyone. Mr. Waibel stated when enforcement was discussed, the intent was made clear that warnings would be given and enforcement would be on a complaint basis. Mrs. Horton stated she understood Mr. Johnson's position, however, it is not appropriate to store vehicles of any size on the City's right-of-way. If an ok is given for storage of RV's on right-of-way, then someone with a boat and/or trailer will come along and question why they can't park in that right-of-way as well. She believes if someone is taking on the ownership of large type vehicle, they should take on the responsibility of maintaining and storing that vehicle properly. Mr. Johnson re-emphasized a 20 ft. vehicle was not that large. Mr. Overson noted a club cab pickup is 20 ft. 4- 1/2 inches long and a new crew cab pickup is 22-24 feet in length. Ms. Goods11 stated there was discussion on including TAPE #1084 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 15 of 16 wording "and/or 10,000 lb. gross weight", however, it appears that the City attorney took out the "and" at the time the ordinance was prepared. Mr. Waibel pointed out the trouble in understanding this item was that it mixed a land use issue and a parking issue. Mr. Johnson emphasized Bremerton doesn't have the greatest reputation of being friendly to visitors and felt this proposal had the potential to add to that attitude. President Fits questioned if there would be' active enforcement, if approved, or would it be more on a complaint basis? Ms. Goods11 stated it has been the history of Bremerton parking enforcement to act on a complaint basis only due to the lack of manpower. Mr. Colvin pointed out the ordinance did not reflect any language that it would be enforced on a "complaint" basis. Travis Baker, Reporter The Sun, questioned the duration of the Right-Of-Way Permit, the reasons and criteria for either approving or turning it down and how a person obtains one when City Hall is closed? Ms. Goods11 stated those were questions that needed to be addressed by the Planning Department since they were the department that would issue that permit. Mr. Waibel pointed out the Right-Of-Way Permit already contains boundaries and was developed mostly in terms of the Recreational Vehicle Right-Of-Way Permit. Ms. Goods11 stated one question she had related to the wording "and/or 10,000 lbs. gross weight or 20 feet in length, which was revised by the City attorney. The City Attorney indicated "and/or" is generally not used and should be one word or the other. She was under the impression that the "and" would have been left in and not "or", which in her opinion makes a big difference in the ordinance. Mayor Mentor noted the problem with using the word "and" in that context is that someone could build a big plywood type box 50 feet long and 20 ft. high and 20 feet wide and it wouldn't weigh 10,000 lbs. Ms. Goodell stated the original ordinance was modeled after the Moses Lake ordinance that included wording..."with the exception of pickup trucks", which was removed by Ian Sievers, the City's Attorney because it was giving a definition; possibly it should be added back in. TAPE #1085 Mr. Colvln requested that Mr. Baker's questions be answered. Ms. Goodell re-emphasized it would be the Planning Departments responsibility to issue the Right-Of-Way Use Permit. Mr. Colvin questioned if it would be the Planning Departments responsibility to give out tickets on City right-of-ways? Ms. Goods11 stated the Parking Regulators would enforce it on City TAPE #1085 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes January 27, 1993 Page 16 of 16 streets and rights-of-way, but the Right-Of-Way Use Permits are issued by the Planning Department, who defines the criteria for the permits. #0076 M/S/C(Waibel/Colvin) to remand this ordinance back to the Parking and Traffic Safety Committee and involving the Planning Department in reviewing the proposal. Mrs. Hotton questioned if a time frame could be put on this issue to have it come back before Council? Mr. Neville pointed out the Traffic Safety Committee meets only once a month. Mr. Johnson stressed the need to not harass anyone and that should be taken into consideration. Mr. Overson stated he wanted to reflect significant constituent input that says 20-foot vehicle is far too short and that two-hours is to short a period of time. He noted there are many pickup trucks that are 20-feet in length. He also stressed the importance of not harassing out-of-town visitors. Ms. Goodell stated on the 2-hour issue they had related that vehicles could still be moved once every day and still be in compliance. Vote on motion: Motion carried. In favor: Overson, Neville, Waibel, Fitz, Collins, Colvin, Johnson Opposed: Horton, Dawkins With no further business meeting adjourned at 7:15 P.M. KATHLEEN L. ~cCLUqS~Y,~~_ty Clerk E~C2President City of Bremerton KLM/EF/me cc: Normal Distribution File/Vault