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CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
OCTOBER 6, 1993
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers,
239 4th Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, October 6,
1993, at 5:30 P.M., with Council President Eileen Fitz
presiding. Council members present were Richard Neville, Lynn
Horton, Hank Waibel, C.R. "Tiny" Collins, Morrie Dawkins, Russ
Johnson, Lon Overson, and Al Colvin. Also present were Acting
City Attorney Leila Mills and City Clerk Kathleen McCluskey.
The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by
Council President Fitz and Invocation given by Reverend Rodney
Smith of the First Christian Church.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Minutes of Meeting -- September 22, 1993 #AB93-193
#0021
M/S/C/U(Waibel/Horton) to approve the Consent Agenda as
presented.
CLAIMS/WARRANT REGISTERS
Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as
required by RCW 42.24.080, and those expense reimbursement
claims certified as required by RCW 42.24.090, have been
recorded on a listing that had been made available to the
Council.
#0036
M/S/C/U(Colvin/Dawkins) October 6, 1993, the Council does
approve for payment those vouchers included and further
described as follows: 169874, 169895 through 170063 in the
total amount of $369,785.63; and Regular Payroll for the
period ending September 30, 1993, in the amount of
$643,064.78.
COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS
Mrs. Horton explained she was absent from the previous Council
meeting due to illness and was now feeling much better. She
requested Council President Fitz and Mayor Mentor consider
scheduling a time on the next Council meeting agenda for Henry
Mincey, of Safe Streets, to comment on his 30-day report that
was'to be provided to Council. She noted Council members did
receive a draft of that report, however, she felt it was
important to have Mr. Mincey come and meet the public and
allow Council the opportunity to discuss that report.
President Fitz reported she met with Mr. Mincey about a week
ago and discussed with him when it would be appropriate for
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Council. She was not sure if Council desired setting a Study
Session with Mr. Mincey or to have his report during a Council
meeting. Mrs. Horton stated she felt Mr. Mincey needed to
come before Council and to meet the public in a public forum.
President Fitz stated Mr. Mincey is ready to make such a
presentation.
Mr. Collins stated he took his hat off to Sheriff Pat Jones
for taking on some drug problems in Bremerton as part of a
major drug bust over the weekend. He also noted that when one
looks at the average age of the people picked up in that drug
bust it appears they aren't "kids".
Mr. Dawkins reported he spent the past weekend in Vancouver,
B.C., and had an opportunity to view what had been done with
the waterfront in that area. It surprised him that there was
activity going on almost all night in the waterfront area and
he felt part of the reason for such use had to do with the
availability of ferry service to and from the commercial
areas. He believed Bremerton could have just as much success
as Vancouver when expanded ferry services is provided between
Bremerton and Seattle.
Mr. Colvin related an incident that happened when Governor
Lowry attended the Martin Luther King Memorial Fund
Constitutions Day event - the Governor remembered Al from his
very early political activity campaigning for Mr. Lowry when
he was a young man that almost got him in trouble with the
federal government through restrictions of the HATCH ACT.
He announced the next District # 1 Coalition meeting is
scheduled for October 28, 7:00 P.M., at the Sheridan Park
Recreation Center. The agenda for that meeting will include
presentations by both Manorial candidates, Larry Stone will
present the "Pro" side of Proposition # 1 and the opposite view
on that issue will be given by Louis Soriano. Lastly, when he
watched on television what was happening in Russia recently he
recognized that the area where the conflict was happening was
where he had visited when he accompanied Secretary Of State
Ralph Munro on a tour of that country.
Mrs. Fitz stated she was pleased and excited, about the drug
bust that happened in Bremerton, particularly because of the
impact the Drug Free Zones, which were adopted and posted,
will have of adding on two years to penalties given to those
individuals found guilty of dealing drugs within those areas.
She again commended the students, faculty, Bremerton School
Board and School District for implementing the Drug Free
Zones. She pointed out Bremerton is the only school district
in the County that has Drug Free Zones. She encouraged other
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School Districts...Bainbridge Island, North Kitsap, Central
Kitsap and South Kitsap to please get going on the
implementation of Drug Free Zones at their schools. She also
noted the age, of the people who were picked up and she felt
one had to say this is not a problem of youth, but rather a
problem of society. She also believes that the older people
involved were probably responsible for the organization of
drug dealing in our drug society. She commended all law
enforcement units that were involved in the recent drug bust
and she hoped the message is out.
PUBLIC RECOGNITION
Mayor Louis Mentor stated he hoped Councilman Collins' hat was
also off to Bremerton's Police Officers, who were involved in
the weekend drug bust activity. WESTNET is comprised of law
enforcement officers from Kitsap County, Jefferson County,
Port Orchard, Poulsbo, Bainbridge Island and Bremerton and all
of those areas were represented in the recent drug raid.
Mayor Mentor noted it takes cooperation and everyone working
together to make these things happen.
Mayor Mentor read the following Proclamation: October 16 and
17, 1993, as Puget Sound Days In Bremerton; Organized by
People For Puget Sound.
Mayor Mentor extended congratulations to Joan Soriano, newly
installed President of the Bremerton Area Chamber Of Commerce,
and Lee Good, newly installed President of the Silverdale
Chamber Of Commerce. The Combined Federal Campaign - United
Way Campaign held a large function on the boardwalk this past
weekend. Mayor Mentor shared a letter he received from
Treasurer House, Inc., in which they thanked everyone they
dealt with at the City for their friendliness and being
informative and extremely helpful. They believe their
business should be part of the community and their opening has
been a great success. Along with their letter they. enclosed
a check made out the City of Bremerton to be spent on whatever
the City decides.
Bernie Forte, POWER, Inc. 920 Park Avenue, stated his hat is
on and his hat is off to what happened this weekend regarding
the drug bust. He applauded the law enforcement agencies
involved in that activity and feels that now we are finally
getting down to business. He stressed the pressure can't stop
there and the community still has to do their part in letting
the Police Department know of any illegal activity within
their neighborhoods. In regard to the Safe Streets program,
he met with the program director Henry Mincey along with
members of the community and he is pleased with the direction
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that program is taking. He applauded Mayor Mentor for
bringing that program to Bremerton. He noted Robert Boddie is
training under Mr. Mincey to become better acquainted with the
Safe Streets Program. He announced POWER's next meeting is
October 7, 7:00 P.M., at Mt. Zion Missionary Baptist Church,
which will be the fourth round - "Bremerton Safe Streets".
Discussion at that meeting will include: programs, jobs,
counseling, education and love. Topics to be covered are:
gangs, racism, violence and harassment. He emphasized that he
has been advocating that private businesses and community
organizations network together creating internship type
programs for youth. He and his wife own a business and they
have stepped forward and initiated an internship position in
their firm. The age bracket of youth being targeted for the
internship programs is 13-25. He has created an in-classroom
training program ,,Labor-To-Management" of a housekeeping
business, which will be starting in early November. Subjects
to be explored in that training program include: laundry
processing, ironing, carpet cleaning, packing, dish washing,
cleaning and indoor/outdoor catering process. Mr. Forte
emphasized this program is his part in doing what he is
advocating to other businesses.
Gordy Byrd, P.O. Box 930, briefly reviewed the courses he is
currently involved with at Olympic College. He gave an update
report on his Byrd's Nest project - $15,273.25. He announced
that Cross Roads Community Church is putting on a "Praise The
Lord" service and three local organizations will benefit from
the free will offering taken at that event, one of which is
the "Byrd's Nest".
Patrick Hirsch, 3030 1/2 Marine Drive, TCI Access Manager,
reported they will be airing debates starting Friday, October
8, 6:00 P.M., and rebroadcasting several times throughout the
month. Starting on October 8th the Mayoral race will be
presented from 6:00 - 7:00 P.M., and from approximately 7:15 -
7:45 P.M., District # 3 Council race will be presented. On
October 15, 6;00 - 7:00 P.M., theProposition # 1 issue will be
debated, followed by District # 7 Council race from 7:15 - 7:45
P.M.. Anyone having questions about the airing dates/times
may call TCI - BCAT 377-1658.
6A - APPROVAL TO SUBMIT CITY OF BREMERTON 1994 CDBG BUDGET,
Resolution #2444 #AB93-194
The Administration is preparing to apply for 1994 Kitsap
County CDBG funds. This resolution signifies City Council
general concurrence with the preliminary project list. Not
all projects identified in this Agenda Bill will be submitted.
Further work prior to submittal will identify strengths and
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weaknesses and appropriate strategies to assure competitive
applications. The Mayor will determine the final application
mix and content depending on this further information.
Submittal for applications is October 8.
Don Pratt, Director Of Community Development, stated he was
the senior staff person responsible for listing the possible
applications to be submitted. At this time, he could identify
some of the applications listed in the Agenda Bill that will
not be submitted. Some of the details in the applications are
still being worked out and the deadline for submittal is
Friday, October 8. Some of the dollar match proposals are not
established and are being left to the budget process that is
about to commence. He reminded Council that last year
Bremerton was the entitlement city and distributed
approximately $450,000 through Council's action and decision
on who received what funding. Now, as part of the Kitsap
County's entitlement program, Bremerton is distributing
approximately 1.4 million dollars and the Kitsap Regional
Planning Council makes the determination as to who receives
what funding. Mrs. Horton questioned a point of possible
conflict of interest in that she and President Fitz sit on the
Kitsap Regional Council board to approve the final cut of the
Block Grant applications and was it appropriate for them to
act on this item? Mr. Pratt stated yes, due to the fact this
process was not a quasi-judicial proceeding. He believed it
would be a political decision for Council President Fitz and
Councilman Horton on a value based decision. Mrs. Horton
emphasized in years past when Council members served on boards
of agencies making application for block grant funds they
stepped down from Block Grant proceedings. She again
questioned if this was a conflict? Mr. Pratt stressed it is
not a legal conflict of interest and any conflict Mrs. Horton
might feel is entirely based on her own value. Leila Mills,
Acting City Attorney, acknowledged her concurrence in Mr.
Pratt's statement on that point.
PRELIMINARY LISTING CITY OF BREMERTON 1994 CDBG APPLICATIONS:
Campus Neighborhood:Traffic Management Project - will
probably be submitted. Mr. Pratt envisioned one intersection
impediment, which they define as something that makes a
neighborhood street less likely to be used as a by-pass route
for computer traffic. They will also tryto find a design and
build some barricades at the end of streets, such as is found
along the west side of Warren Avenue. He anticipates the
ability to raise $25,000 for total cost and match it with
$5,000 of City Funds.
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County - Wide Land - Use Plan And RegulatoryCoordination - will
probably be submitted by the Kitsap Regional Planning Council
and not by the City of Bremerton/Kitsap County jointly.
However, Mr. Pratt wanted to leave this item on the list in
case there is a fall back position. The proposal is for
$200,000 of block grant funding to make the total project cost
$644,000, not $414,187. The $414,187 is the growth management
money the City receives and is the total cost of what the City
is doing for growth management planning. The specific work
program says that Kitsap County and the other cities agree to
explore land use consistency within the County and will
develop a standard model zoning definition and terms that can
be used in the new Zoning Ordinances. What makes this
exciting is that they have found something of value to work
together on in partnership rather than find disagreement on.
South Auto Center Industrial District Enhancement Project -
Land Purchase, Environmental Remediation & Sale Of Land - City
Council has not had this proposal before them yet and Mr.
Pratt believed this application would not be submitted. What
this item proposed was to use block grant funds to help clean
up several properties in an area the administration proposes
to include in Slums and Blight at the City Council level
within the next month or two.
Smith Cove Environmental Analysis - several properties around
Smith Cove and within the City have a common dilemma of having
unknown environmental conditions. The unknown quantity
frequently can out - value the price of the property. When the
property has an unknown negotiated with it, it is virtually
blackballed by the development community. What was being
attempted with this application was to find a way to use block
grant funds to do an environmental analysis of the property
just to get the "known" clean up cost so that developers would
know what they would have to deal with in order to use it.
Mr. Pratt believed Council would see this application back in
1994 as a revolving loan program for environmental issues and
properties as a block grant proposal for 1995.
Rental Rehab Loan Program - the City currently operates a
large amount of money in an owner-occupied rehabilitation
program for residential uses. There is still an adequate
amount of money left both in loan repayments and new money to
offer an owner - occupied program next year equal to or greater
than the number of loans made in 1992. What is being proposed
is asking for new money to go into a Rental Rehab program,
such as the City had 3 - 4 years ago and discontinued. Under
this scenario, property owners/landlords would apply for funds
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to fix up multi - family units that would host moderate income
people.
Bremerton Accessibility Project - (total cost $59,000/with
$6,000 City funds). The proposal provides for elderly or
disabled citizens using wheelchairs to these currently
inaccessible areas of City facilities:
(1) City Hall - 2nd Floor Court Facilities, City Attorney's
Office and Personnel Department via wall - mounted wheelchair
lift ($18,000);
(2) Restroom remodel for 5 - floor office building housing
public offices and services, including the Safe Streets
Program ($12,000);
(3) City Hall - 1st floor Police Department and Civil Service
Offices via wall - mounted wheelchair lift (19,000);
(4) City Hall - 2nd floor restrooms via remodel or existing
restrooms ($8,000);
(5) City Hall - City Clerk/Treasurer's Office via counter
accessibility ($1,000);
(6) City Hall - Municipal Court Office via counter
accessibility ($1,000).
Mr. Pratt explained this proposal was recommended by the
City's Disabilities Committee for block grant funding. Mr.
Johnson questioned for clarification if Mr. Pratt's comment
of City matching funds at $6,000 was correct rather than the
$400 shown in the documentation? Mr. Pratt explained the
figure of $400 was increased to $6,000 since the agenda bill
was submitted to Council last week. It is proposed to use the
4th Street Construction Fund and General Facilities Fund to
provide the matching funds.
Wheel Chair Ramps - this project was submitted last year for
funding, however, it was not funded. The proposal is to
construct wheelchair ramps at intersections around Naval
Avenue School and Armen Jahr School at a total project cost of
$45,000 and a City match of $4,000. It is proposed to raise
the $4,000 from within the City's budget process.
4th Street Amenities - this project was submitted last year
and did receive quite a bit of funding from the Block Grant
program to help construct the 4th Street project. Some
pedestrian amenities were left unfunded: Kiosk ($11,780),
clock ($11,056), 12 benches ($12,000) drinking fountain
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($7,000), 9 landscaped clay pots ($7,200). This proposal
requests funding of $49,036 in block grant funds and the City
can show that $428,000 worth of match is already in the
street.
Vicki Vanneman, Director of Parks and Recreation provided the
following commentary.
Bremerton Parks Playgrounds Accessibility Project - create
"parks for all" at Warren Avenue Play Field, Kiwanis Field,
Lions Field, Evergreen Park and East Park. This will include
both a new major unit at Warren Avenue Play Field and upgrades
in the form of ramps and transfer modules at the other sites.
Ms. Vanneman explained originally two applications were
suggested: (1) accessibility project at some of the
playgrounds throughout the Parks system, will be submitted but
it will be reduced to a focus on the Warren Avenue Play Field
of major pieces of equipment there to replace the aging ship
on the corner of llth and Warren. The technology for the new
ramps and transfer modules that can be put onto existing
pieces of equipment is very new technology and seems to her to
be a better grant for next year once the "bugs" have been
worked out. By redefining the focus to Warren Avenue Play
Field, the total cost will be reduced significantly and
looking at $30-35,000. As mentioned earlier, the details will
be worked out between now and 4:00 P.M. on Friday, October 8.
And, the City's matching fund amount will also be reduced.
Ms. Vanneman emphasizes the Cityts match will be in "work
force" from the Parks Department.
Expansion Of Evergreen Park - this project was proposing
acquisition of some property in proximity to the Evergreen
Park site and again that is one that the administration feels
may be a year away. With some of the uncertainties in that
area as far as property ownership, it was felt delaying that
proposal for one year was advisable and at that point they
would hope to identify a good quality matching fund source.
Mr. Pratt pointed out the proposed resolution just recognizes
that this is a good list to make a submittal and the Mayor
will submit them by Friday.
Mr. Overson questioned what is the list? Mr. Pratt explained
Council will be agreeing that submittal of all of the listed
projects is appropriate. He will tell Council now which
applications will not be submitted with a couple of them being
"maybe". Mr. Johnson questioned what if Council wanted to add
something to the proposed list? Mr. Pratt stated if Council
wished to added something then someone needed to be identified
to prepare the application for submittal. Mr. Johnson
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questioned if Council was to be just a "rubber stamp" or were
they suppose to say whether or not they agree with the items
listed and those being proposed to not submit at this time?
Mr. Pratt stated the Administration has put together the
proposed list and are looking to Council to support the
proposal as presented. Mr. Johnson questioned the meaning of
"support"...approval, disapproval? Mr. Pratt stated approval.
Mr. Overson questioned for clarification if Mr. Pratt was
asking Council to pre - commit to a $95,000 City Revenue Bond
for the South Auto Center Industrial District Enhancement? In
his opinion, this was not the process for such action. City
staff has been working on this project for many months and if
it wasn't ready at this point, then it contains a fatal flaw
and should be scratched right now. Mr. Pratt stated the Mayor
has determined that application will not be submitted and if
Council chooses to drop it from this listing he would
encourage such action. Mrs. Horton questioned which
applications are to be definitely scratched off the list and
which ones are "maybe"? Mr. Pratt stated the following
applications will not be submitted: South Auto Center
Industrial District Enhancement project, Smith Cove
Environmental Analysis, and Expansion of Evergreen Park.
Applications that might be submitted are County - wide Land Use
Plan and Requlatory Coordination, which most likely will be
submitted by the Kitsap Regional Planning Council. Mr.
Johnson pointed out he had noted a "maybe" for the Campus
Neighborhood application. Mr. Pratt stated the Campus
Neighborhood Traffic Management Project will be submitted.
Mrs. Horton questioned if she was correct that item # 2 under
the Bremerton Accessibility Project was the 4th Street
Building? Mr. Pratt stated yes. Mrs. Horton stated she
opposed that being on the list because Council has been asking
for a facilities plan for that building and has yet to get it
even though the building has been in the City's position for
at least 2 1/2 years. She did not believe it was wise to
spend money "willy nilly" on that building until a definite
plan had been developed. Therefore, she recommended removing
that item off of the list. She pointed out the Smith Cove
project was to be taken off the list, however, she believed
there is State funding available to do environmental analysis
of property. Lastly, someone asked her recently about the
rental'rehab portion because some of these rental properties
may in fact be owned by people who are literally multi-
millionaires and it was felt that would be inappropriate even
though it would be for low income renters. Mr. Pratt
explained that was a philosophical issue when the program was
dropped several years ago. It was the feeling of the Block
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Grant office and the Administration that there are adequate
funds now to cover the owne - occupied program. It is also
felt that the Rental Rehab Program, even though there are
philosophical problems with landlords making money off the
project, the production they can get out of a rental rehab
program is of great value to the City and should not turn its
back to that production. We can get a lot more low to
moderate income units rehab by using the landlords than we can
on a one-by-one owner occupied, so they decided the need to
run dual programs. Mrs. Horton stated she felt that was a
policy issue that Council needs to take up and not an issue
that the Administration zan say "this is our policy". Mr.
Colvin questioned if this amounts to subsidizing the
landlords? Mr. Pratt explained it amounts to subsidizing low
income tenants and there are landlords making money renting
apartments to low income tenants. The subsidy is not to the
landlord but to the renter. Mrs. Horton stressed she felt
that was an issue Council needed to take up as a policy issue
and bring in public debate. The Block Grant program is
worthwhile and vital to the community and she did not want to
do anything that would taint that program in any way. Mr.
Pratt encouraged Council to let the grant application go
through and to refuse the grant if it is selected for funding.
If Council denies the opportunity to make the grant
application, then you deny any opportunity for the debate to
take place in a constructive manner and that debate may come
up as a positive issue. Mr. Dawkins questioned if there
wasn't enough people applying or obtaining owner occupied
rehab loans? Mr. Pratt stated they do a fair number of owner
occupied loans but we never do as many loans as we have funds
available. He emphasized it is a very difficult program to
make work because typically the low to moderate income owners
lack experience in financial matters to qualify enough to put
together a public package and it costs the City money to do
that work for them. On the other hand, whenever a rental
rehab program is operated, there are more applicants that are
qualified and ready to go than there is funding available.
Again, there is a very high production of low and moderate
income housing when we use a rental occupied program. than the
owner occupied program. President Fitz questioned how it
costs money to have an owner occupied low income person and
how it costs the program money to try and help them get
financed? Mr. Pratt stated there is a Project Manager in the
Block Grant Program whose primary job is to provide financial
counseling and advice to people putting together a loan
program package. That person sits with the applicants to
develop the financial documents, she accompanies them when
they visit the bank that provides the partner loan that goes
with it, she helps them select a contractor, helps monitor the
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contract, etc. On the other hand, if a loan is made to an
apartment owner, typically they do all the leg work and they
have the bank and accounting resources already and the project
goes very smooth. President Fitz stated that was a philosophy
or policy issue also because if in fact we want to rehab homes
in Bremerton and we want low income people to own homes, then
her personal feeling was that we need to take the time to
assist them through this process. I also think there are
probably rental owners who are not millionaires and need some
help in keeping up their property. Possibly, the City needs
to do a good job of screening those individuals if they in
fact can afford to fix up their rental properties. She is
concerned about making sure that all the people who own their
home and need help in rehab are being serviced. Mr. Pratt
stated he believes they are doing as good a job as any other
public loan provider and we can't rent all the funds that are
available. When the rental/owner program was in place, we
didn't have an owner/occupied program. However, when the
rental rehab program was dropped, funds were then put into the
owner/occupied program. Now, there are funds in the
owner/occupied program and it is not an either or situation.
Mrs. Horton stated a couple of years ago Council looked at the
possibility of developing a program whereby there was seed
money to come up with financing for low income people for a
down payment on a house, getting them into an owner/occupied
situation. Because the City lacked the initial seed money,
that program was not implemented. She questioned if block
grant funds could be used to provide for down payments for
owner/occupied homes for low income people? When Housing
Bremerton was developed one of the things targeted was owner
occupancy and she would prefer seeing that kind of pool of
money rather than rehab rental property when there is such a
high preponderance of such properties. Mr. Pratt stated he
recalled discussions on helping first time home buyers and the
City is involved in a first time home buyers program that is
sponsored by Washington State, however, those funds go
directly to banks, who operator of the program. He emphasized
we frequently use the owner/occupied loans to partner with the
first time home buyer and they use the City's loan as part of
their equity.to get into the program. Mrs. Horton questioned
if $100,000 could be used as seed money for down payment of
low income people to become owner/occupied owners? Mr. Pratt
stated (1) it is difficult to get low to moderate income
people into a loan package situation to not only rehab their
loans but to purchase their homes; (2) he honestly did not
know the answer to Mrs. Horton question. He suspected from
discussions with Ms. Dickinson, Director of the program, that
block grant funding cannot go to first time home buyers.
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Mr. Colvin questioned how much public money will be involved
in the rental rehab program? Mr. Pratt explained there is 1.4
million dollars and he is aware of at least two other
applicants that are asking for rehab loans funds out of that
pool of money. The City's proposal is asking for $100,000.
Mr. Johnson stated he wanted to look at the outcome, which is
why the rental rehab program was dropped before. When you have
run down houses in the City, which does not pencil out-for
someone to buy until you throw in the subsidy and then the
landlord or potential landlord looks at it and says if I buy
this property and get a certain subsidy then he figures out
what the rent will be. What happen then is to encourage
rentals instead of homeowners and the funds they get to fix it
up are generally used to bring properties up to absolute
minimum code standards, not necessarily making it a nice
looking piece of property. He was in favor of this item when
it was brought to the Fiscal and Budget Committee because at
that time he was told that any landlord who accepted any of
the funds available would have to have a clause in the rental
agreement giving the renter an option to buy on a "pay rent
with option to buy" basis. Obviously, the gain should be to
have home ownership and pride in our communities, which comes
from home ownership and not landlords. Mr. Pratt stated they
considered it, but felt it is best to accomplish it by
providing information on how tenters can become property
owners rather than requiring that they become property owners.
Mr. Johnson stated then we'll end up with more trashed
apartments. Mr. Pratt stated Council was missing a scale ....
the proposal is asking for $100,000 to do loans up to $25,000
per unit. This is not the same level of funding that was
offered several years ago. The funding requested would
probably do 4 - 6 units in 1994. Mr. Johnson noted the
apartment owners have been very powerful in the City for many
years and he felt it was time to say. no, the emphasis should
be with the homeowners. Mr. Pratt stated he and the
administration saw the Rental Rehab program as a piece of the
overall improvement program for low or moderate income
housing. And, to not offer any rental money at all was a void
in the program. We have significantly more owner/occupied
program than rental/occupied. We have the first time home
buyers program that is operated by the State Housing Bond
money. We think we need to add a relatively small
rental/occupied program and that it provides for a balanced
rehab program. Mr. Johnson stated he would rather see Kitsap
Regional Planning Council give the money to KCCAP to increase
their weatherization program for seniors.
Mr. Collins stated the only way he could agree to the Rental
i
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Rehab program, and if it remains in the proposal he will have
to disagree with the whole proposal, is if there was some kind
of strong teeth whereby the landlord would have to rehab to a
veryhigh standard and that there would be constant monitoring
so that the landlord kept the property in that same condition.
He is aware of three properties that were rehabed with block
grant funds previously and over the years allowed to
deteriorate to the point they were when the original rehab
took place. Mr. Pratt stated he did not think it was
impossible to add owner/occupied wording directly and not just
tell you we'll do the program. He felt it would be an error
in the program to require landlords to sell rental units.
Councilman Waibel stepped down from the dias at 6:45 P.M.
Mrs. Horton stated she believed she understood Mr. Pratt's
position, however, she felt someone had not done their
homework on this proposal. She stressed the Administration
wants to start up a new program without talking .to Council
about how it will operate or to talk philosophically about
whether or not the program should be done at all. She would
not turn back a grant if it was awarded because it would not
look good. She believes the Rental Rehab program was
premature and if Mr. Pratt wanted to do such a program, it
should have. been brought to Council several months ago. She
believed Mr. Pratt was getting a sense that Council did not
feel good about this application. Maybe it is a worthy
program, but at this point it is a premature program.
Hank Waibel, 2341 E. 18th Street, stated his job when he is
not a City Councilman is to purchase and rehab homes for
people who have cerebral palsy. He is an owner of rental/
occupied properties that are rented by people with cerebral
palsy. Without the HUD Block Grant money from the City of
Seattle, there would still be 12 people institutionalized
rather than living in the community. This program does need
to make sure there are all the "bells and whistle"s being
talked about. Funds will not be available for such a use
unless the City applies for that grant this year. He felt the
City should apply for the grant and to then make sure there
are some restrictions.
Mr. Johnson stated Mr. Waibel may have the answer to the
dilemma and that would be to set the rental rehab loan funds
aside for improvements for handicapped accessibility for
rental properties. Mrs. Horton stated she believes Easter
Seals has the same kind of program and applies for Block Grant
funding. If they do, she felt the Block Grant Committee would
see a redundancy. Mr. Pratt stated there are other active
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agencies doing such programs and there are agencies that don't
do it. Mrs. Horton stated generally when looking at Block
Grant applications you want to look at programs that are not
redundancies and if this is the same kind of program as Easter
Seals application, she felt it was a waste of paperwork. Mr.
Pratt stated there is also a context of where we are in this.
Although they have tried to keep track of all those agencies,
unless Council authorizes submittal of the application the
City won't have the option of finding out who is doing what
later on. Mr. Johnson stated if the Rental Rehab program
can't be narrowed down to something special, he would just as
soon lend his support to doing an environmental study on Smith
Cove. Mr. Pratt stated he may have erred in not doing his
homework with the City Council and finding out what would be
acceptable...he apologized for that and would do what needs to
happen before the City implements anything. The problem is
the timeline that is due on Friday, October 8, and he would
very much like Council's support on the Rental Rehab program
and Council would have the full control as to whether or not
it was ever implemented. Mrs. Fitz questioned if Council
would be creating a problem for Mr. Pratt if a condition to
provide loans up to $25,000 per unit for handicapped
accessible rental units was approved? Mr. Pratt stated if
Council put that stipulation on the program, it would create
significantly less problems than if Council refuses to submit
the application. Mr. Johnson questioned if Mr. Pratt had the
Smith Cove application about done? Mr. Pratt stated no, it is
a concept only. The Rental Rehab program is a revision of the
old program and a fairly detailed application.
Mr. Collins questioned if someone owned a duplex could they
qualify for $50,000 for rehab of that facility? Mr. Pratt
stated how you qualify for a loan is a review of what your
financial assets are, how much funding the owner has from
other sources, and the owner has to obtain a matched amount
from a private lender to match with the City's money. If you
look for a multi-millionaire who tries to do a duplex and get
a full $50,000 and a minimal amount of outside partnering
money it is not the kind of person who typically gets a loan
from the City's rehab program. Typically, you would find
someone putting together some private money with $7-8,000 that
specifically detailed what the improvements would include. He
did not deny that most people who get rental rehab are people
that have enough capital in the first place to purchase the
property and are not low to moderate income people. However,
they would not be pulling $25,000 per unit with no other money
involved and with multiple other assets.
Mr. Overson questioned if Mr. Pratt could live with the
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statement "only used for handicapped accessibility"? Mr.
Pratt stated yes, however, he suggested using the words
special needs.
Mrs. Horton questioned if in fact these properties are
upgraded through the Block Grant program can the owner bump up
the rental rate commensurate? Mr. Pratt stated he believed
there is a rent control based on a percentage of income and if
there isn't such a control one could be built into the
program. He preferred Council to tell him that rent gouging
was not acceptable. Mrs. Horton stated she would feel more
comfortable if the benefit was passed on and not just in an
upgraded housing unit. She does believe everyone is entitled
to a fair profit margin, but she believed the idea is to give
the upgraded property and an affordable price to those low
income or disabled people. Mr. Pratt stated he suspects the
Rental Rehab program has something that protects against such
action and he had no problem including it if it is not already
included.
M/S/C(Overson/Horton) to approve Resolution #2444
with the following modifications: eliminating the item on
South Auto Center Industrial Enhancement, eliminating the item
on Smith Cove, add language to the rental rehab loan program
that would provide the funds in areas where they need
handicapped or special needs type expenditures, eliminating
item #2 under the Bremerton Accessibility Project and
eliminating Expansion of Evergreen Park.
Mr. Johnson stated usually the dollar values are made to match
some magic number and questioned if that was the case in this
instance,and should the $12,000 be moved to make a nicer park?
Mr. Pratt stated he preferred Council not see any numbers as
there is a strategy as to how much the City is applying for
and he preferred to be free to work through that strategy.
He assured Council there would not be significantly large
changes but the strategy was not as easy as moving $12,000
from restrooms to the play ground.
Vote on motion: In Favor: Overson, Neville, Horton, Fitz,
Collins, Dawkins, Johnson
Abstained: Colvin
Mr. Johnson recommended that Council require, when this agenda
bill comes up next year, it include a complete packet for each
of.the items identified in the proposal.
Mrs. Horton stated she wished to go a step further and devote
a Study Session entirely to philosophically how we want to go
after the block grant funds. She felt the place to "hash out"
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proposals is in a Study Session and not out in the public with
the end product being an acceptable package for submittal.
Mr. Oversen questioned if that would fit in the Cityts
Capital Improvement Plan? Mr. Pratt stated yes, most of the
projects come out of existing Planning documents, which is a
strength. He believes the Housing Bremerton program addresses
rental rehab.
Motion carried.
7A - ORDINANCE (FIRST READING) AMENDING THE 1993 BUDGET,
#AB93-195
Actions taken by the City since passage of the 1993 budget
require certain corrections in order that the budget continues
to accurately reflect the financial operating plan of the
City.
Rich Hanna, City Treasurer, stated this is the second budget
amending ordinance to appear before Council in 1993, and he
expects a third amendment to happen in the month of December.
He noted most of the significant budget amendment items have
already appeared before Council as individual items for
consideration. He referenced Budget Adjustment sheets #93-19
and #93-20 and the fact that the line item detail was somewhat
different than that brought before the Council Committees. He
emphasized the bottom lines of the funds are not altered so
the total expenditure authority adjustments are not altered,
but the breakdown of details within the program did change.
Mrs Horton questioned which was the right one? Mr. Hanna
stated the correct amount is on Budget Adjustment Sheet #93-20
(the unsigned document). He again emphasized there were no
substantive changes to the program that is incorporated in the
adjustment.
The only significant adjustment, in his opinion, contained in
the adjustments that are presented to Council at this time and
had not appeared as an individual item, is Budget Adjustment
#93-13. This item relates to the purchase of some building
permitting software for the Building Department and if Council
had questions on that item, Information Systems Manager Bill
Eley was available to provide input, as well as Don Pratt,
Director Of Community Development and David Nelson, Building
Official.
Mrs. Fitz stated at the time Fiscal and Budget Committee
reviewed the proposed amendment to the budget, they discussed
the point of bringing future amendments on a quarterly basis
or fewer Budget Adjustment at any one time. Mr. Hanna stated
he would try to comply with those wishes.
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Mr. Overson questioned why items #93-18 and #93-20, which are
two big items, were not brought before Council. Mr. Hanna
stated the Agenda Bill that approved construction of the 4th
Street L.I.D. contained a clearance comment made by him that
the budget adjustment would have to follow as a separate
document. He believed such a discussion occurred before the
Fiscal and Budget Committee, but may not have been before the
full Council. He believed that #93-20 had been discussed at
length in the Block Grant Program, which is the source of
funding for street lighting fixtures for the 4th Street L.I.D.
project. Mr. Johnson stated when Fiscal and Budget Committee
signed off on this item, it was a recommendation to Council,
not an approval.
Mrs. Horton stated she believed #93-23 needed further
explanation and she pointed out the attachments referenced on
the Budget Adjustment form were not included in the Agenda
Bill documentation. When Council funded the budget, there was
discussion about the new position in the building program and
she understands there were some problems in getting that
program underway. She emphasized the importance of having the
enforcement program moving along because there are conditions
that Council wishes to see abated. She is going to have to be
convinced that funding should be switched over to another
purpose and questioned what is the money going to buy? Mr.
Pratt, Director Of Community Development, explained the hire
has been made as of late June and unfortunately he had an
emergency appendectomy and lost six weeks of work in August,
which put a major hole in the program. However, that program
is up and running today. Whether or not that program could be
running any stronger if we were to use this money to put into
it is questionable. He can always use money in an enforcement
program but he did not want to take funds that would cause his
budget to increase in 1994. It was also unknown to him if a
contract person to assist in enforcement would be of that much
value to the program. The value of this funding to the
enforcement program is better spent bringing in a system
managing all of the permits and making the general management
system of paper in the total office, including enforcement
better than if it were spent only on enforcement. The money
indirectly supports the enforcement program and what is being
proposed is to purchase an electronic Data Management System
that is somewhat compatible with the other systems in the City
and which works. Absent an electronic data program, we have
a limited a program that they designed, which never reached
the quality and quantity of effort that they needed. Or, they
will have to go back to a manual system of paper, which
hinders their efforts. Mrs. Horton stated when Council and
staff meet for budget discussions in November and Mr. Pratt is
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asked what kind of product did the City receive for the money
budgeted last year for the enforcement program, how well it
succeeded and where it is, what will Council be told? Mr.
Pratt stated Council will have a product of a solid 4-5 months
of work-and they will be able to document that activity. Mrs.
Horton questioned if the enforcement program will be carried
on into the 1994 budget? Mr. Pratt stated yes, he is planning
for it in his budget proposal. Mrs. Horton questioned why
couldn't we wait a month on this proposal to see where the
budget shakes out and whether or not that program survives the
1994 budget? If it does survive, then Council would include
$7,000 at that time. Mr. Pratt explained there is a window of
opportunity to obtain the computer software from the vendor
who developed the program and who is now looking for areas to
test his product. The software is being offered to the City
at a price of approximately $7,000, for something in the
market that costs $25,000. He felt that kind of opportunity
was worth taking and would be of benefit to the City. Mr.
Overson stated this item received a lot of discussion at the
Operations Committee meeting on the same basis of changing the
funds to another use. The fact that the software package is
a test model has some concerns, however, it appears it has
some redeeming qualities, the specific one being that it is a
labor saving device. The proposed product have some
unanswered questions, however, it may be valuable to go
forward with it at this time.
TAPE #1140Mr. Collins stated it appeared to him that #93-21 was not
processed through the Fiscal and Budget Committee. Mr. Hanna
stated Mr. Collins was correct. Pursuant to the Budget
Control Ordinance changes within a department between
categories of expenditure when the amount is less than $5,000
the approval is granted under the Mayor's signature only.
Beyond that threshold, then expenditure approvals need to go
to Committee and ultimately before Council.
Public comment - none.
#0065
M/S/C/U(Horton/Waibel) to approve Ordinance on first reading,
amending Ordinance No. 4421 relating to the budget of the City
of Bremerton for Fiscal Year 1993.
Mr. Johnson acknowledged the Building Official and Information
Services Manager for their finding a $15,000 cost savings on
some software that is needed by the City.
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With no further business meeting adjourned at 7:15 P.M.
KATHLEEN L. McCLUSKEY, City Clerk
EILEEN FITZ, Council President
City of Bremerton
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