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CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
AUGUST 10, 1994
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The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Bremerton
was called to order in the City Council Chambers, 239 4th Street,
Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, August 10, 1994, at 5:30 P.M.,
with Council President Sherril Huff-Menees presiding. Council
members present were Morrie Dawkins, Bob Winters, John Law, David
Farr, Richard Neville, A1 Colvin, and Lon Overson. Also present
were City Attorney Ian Sievers and City Clerk Kathleen McCluskey.
The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council
President Huff-Menees and Invocation given by Reverend Woody
Peabody of St. Paul's Episcopal Church.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Minutes of Meeting - July 27, 1994
#AB94-167
M/S/C/U(Neville/Farr) to approve the Consent Agenda with a
correction made changing "West Bremerton PeeWee Association" to
"Warren Avenue PeeWee Association".
CLAIMS/CHECK REGISTERS
Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as required
by RCW 42.2.4,080, and those expense reimbursement claims certified
as required by RCW 42.24.090, have been recorded on a listing that
had been made available to the Council.
M/S/C/U(Colvin/Dawkins) on August 10, 1994, the Council does
approve for payment those vouchers included and further described
as follows: 177513 through 177648 in the total amount of
$369,265.46; and Regular Payroll for the period ending 7-31-94 in
the amount of $670,864.11.
President Huff-Menees announced Council is restructuring the
Council meeting format and as part of that change a time for
"Public Service Announcements" has been set from 5:10 - 5:30 P.M.
Anyone wishing to make an announcement of a public service nature
can come to the podium and have their message televised. More
information on this process will be provided at the August 17th
City Council meeting. The new Public Service Announcement
opportunity will begin on August 24. At the previous Council
meeting she indicated Council would be making a slight change to
the Public Recognition Time in that it will be a 15-minute time
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period at the beginning of the meeting, and anyone who has not had
an opportunity to speak during that time period is welcome to stay
and address their issue at the end of the Council meeting.
Previously, she announced that Council .Member Reports would be
moved to the end of the meeting as well. Council had asked to
revisit that issue, and determined they wanted their reports to
remain at the beginning of the Council meeting.
Other upcoming City meetings: Planning Commission meets August 16,
6:00 P.M.; City Council Study Session on Monday, August 15, 5:00
P.M. - 7:00 P.M., Agenda - (1) Cable Consultants/Franchising; (2)
proposed salary for Wastewater Manager; (3) Dam Safety
Requirements; (3) Kitsap Lake Road Sewer Extension Bid Award; (4)
Wastewater Treatment Plant Odor Control Project Update; and (5)
Alexander Lake Dam Reconstruction Update. Applications are still
being accepted through the month of August for City Council
District #8 position, which will be appointed by the City Council.
COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS
Mr. Winters announced an AGAPE sponsored dance will be held on
August 12, 8;00 P.M., at the Westside Improvement Club. He also
sent his mother a "get well soon" message.
Mr. Law announced there will not be a District #3 Neighborhood
meeting in August and the next scheduled meeting will be held the
third Tuesday of September.
Mr. Overson reported on a significant improvement on the waterfront
as the old Salvation Army building is torn down providing some new
view corridor and soon to be built parking, which he sees as
another step in improving that area. He attended the Neighborhood
Information Network meeting, held August 16, which was well
attended. He was pleased to report that City Police responded very
quickly to an incident in the Highland District on the evening of
August 16.
Mrs. Huff-Menees read into the record a letter from Nancy Buck,
Voter Registration Coordinator For District #1, thanking
Legislative Assistant Merilynn Erhart and Council Office Assistant
Lori Smith for their dedication, efforts, and collaboration in
their Voter Registration Drive.
MAYOR'S REPORT
Mayor Lynn Horton announced residents on Lower Marine Drive should
have their telephone service back on line within two hours, which
was disrupted by someone severing a telephone cable. She also
reminded everyone that following the Council meeting, the pubic
will have an opportunity for input on the qualities they would like
to see in a new Police Chief. Wrap-up activities for the Kure,
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Japan delegation included a Lions Club picnic on August 3 and a
banquet on August 4. There is the possibility of a Bremerton
delegation going to Kure, Japan in November of this year and anyone
interested in learning more about that trip can call her office.
The Kure delegation presented the City with a gift and she in turn
wished to present it to the City Council. President Huff-Menees
accepted the decorated vase from Mayor Horton and thanked the Kure
visitors for the lovely gift.
PUBLIC RECOGNITION
President Huff-Menees asked that anyone wishing.to speak during
Public Recognition to please fill out a card with their name and
telephone number.
Bob 8auter, Post Commander VFW Post 3694 and President of the
Kitsap County Veterans Coalition, made the following announcements:
1) "Military Retiree Day" will be held on August 12, 8:00 A.M. -
4:00 P.M. On that date, information will be handed out from
various agencies to assist the retirees and their families;
2) The Manette community is sponsoring a parade on August 20,
10:00 A.M., starting on Scott Street. The veterans organization
will take part in that parade and everyone is invited to attend;
3) On September 10, 4:00 P.M., American Legion Post #149, 425 S.
Cambrian, is hosting an evening to "Meet The Candidates" running
for office in the 23rd District and the public is invited; also
4) September 14 will be the first of monthly one-daX sessions by
legal personnel to afford legal aid to veterans and the elderly
over 65, which will be free of charge. This service will be
conducted at West Hills Honda on Auto Center Way.
De1 Knauss asked that he be provided information showing 1) the
total amount that would be in the Roosevelt Field Capital Fund if
no money had been borrowed for other projects; 2) the total amount
that has been spent out of that fund, and what projects they have
been applied to; and 3) what is the time frame for paying back
that fund. He also wants to know why half of the grass at
Evergreen Park is "burned up" and only one small section is being
watered? Other people are also concerned about other parks in the
City being allowed to "brown out" instead of keeping the grass
green by watering. In reference to Council's proposed change to
Public Recognition, by Council moving their reports back to the
beginning of the City Council meeting shows the people that Council
is watching out for themselves. He questioned whose idea was it to
limit Public Recognition to 15 minutes. When Council members ran
for office didn't they tell people "I'm running on the platform of
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limiting Public Input?" No. When people run for office, the
public hears "we want to hear from you", but once in office,
Council tends to forget that. If you do not have the time to
listen to the public, then don't bother coming to their doors when
running for office.
Jack Lefcoski announced the Kitsap Lake community will hold a
meeting on August 22, 6:30 P.M., at the Kitsap Lake Mobile Home
Park. The City's Citizens Action Committee will be holding a
public meeting on August 30, 7:00 P.M., in the City Council
Chambers.
Gordy Byrd expressed his disappointment that the last Concert in
the Park at Evergreen Park was cancelled.
Shannon Cook announced Harrison Hospital Annex will hold a blood
drive on August 26, 11:00 A.M. to 1:00 P.M. and 1:45 P.M. to 5:00
P.M. She was pleased to report she completed the Hospice Walk and
raised $243.00 for Hospice of Kitsap County.
Roy McInnis asked that he also be provided the information
requested by Del Knauss on the Roosevelt Field assets. He
personally apologized to Mr. Winters for his demeanor at the
previous Council meeting. He is known to make faces and comment on
issues and wished to apologize if such action offended Mr. Winters.
Mr. Winters stated his apology was accepted.
Don Atkinson, Bremerton Main Street Association, displayed two
posters that have been printed for publicizing the Blackberry
Festival. The Jazz Festival will take place on August 20 in the
Park Place Building followed by additional performances in five
lounges in the area. The 35-mile biking event, held August 6, was
well received with a comparative small turnout. He anticipates
this event to grow in the future. The Kiwanis Air Fair will be
held on August 21, which is part of the Blackberry Festival this
year. The Friday night concert on the boardwalk will feature Jr.
Cadillac and the Farmers' Market vendors will also be in operation.
At 10:00 P.M., there will be a fly over by a "Russian Mig", which
will be shooting off fireworks off of its wings. Main Streets
"Prospectives 94" program will be held in September with possibly
two programs to cover ballot measures and candidates.
Mr. Law made a brief statement explaining the process by which
Council Agenda Items are brought before Council members for study
prior to their being placed on the Council Agenda.
6A - ADJUSTMENTTO METCALFANDEDDY SERVICES INC., CONTRACT (#2901)
WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATION BASE "B" REPAIR AND
MAINTENANCE, #AB94-168
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Current contract budget for repair and maintenance of the
Wastewater Treatment Plant, lift stations, and appurtenances is
$150,000 for contract year 1994 (January 1 - December 31).
Expenditures for repair and maintenance through July 15, 1994 total
$132,160. Anticipated priority repair and maintenance through
December 31, 1994 is estimated at an additional $80,000 for a total
of $212,760.
Costs charged to repair and maintenance include scheduled equipment
maintenance as well as unanticipated equipment breakdowns.
Bill McKinney, Wastewater Treatment Plant Contract Compliance
Officer, stated he and Tom Warner, Treatment Plant Manager, would
be available to answer questions on this issue. A question was
raised earlier ... What had been formally budgeted in years past
for this item? For the past five years, the budget has included
$150,000 for this item.
Mr. Neville questioned the number of lift stations? Mr. McKinnev
responded there are 34. Mr. Neville questioned if 10 of the lift
stations are to be worked on, are the other 24 in good working
condition, or are they all going "bad" at one time? Mr. McKinneV
explained the other lift stations receive routine maintenance and
scheduled maintenance. The items listed in this proposal are some
major items that were anticipated other than routine maintenance.
Mr. Farr questioned.why would such items as those requested be
unanticipated when they are serviced on a routine basis? Mr.
McKinneV stated that was a valid question, and in hindsight, it
would have been better if that item had been increased in the 1994
Budget. After reviewing the records, that budgeted amount had not
been exceeded, and of the $132,000 expended this year approximately
$60,000 was used for unanticipated breakages that did occur during
this last year.
Public comment - none.
Mr. Oversonquestioned.if Mr. McKinney.anticipated bringing forward
larger budgets in future years? Mr. McKinney stated he felt that
was safe to assume in that the plant is 10 years old, and the life
expectancy on a lot of the pumping components is 8-10 years, so we
are in that period of time when there will be increased maintenance
and replacement for some items.
Mr. Neville noted the request was in the amount of $80,000 for
repair and maintenance and questioned will there be an additional
budget adjustment to cover labor expenses? Mr. McKinney explained
labor expenses is covered under a separate account.
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Mr. Overson stated following discussions on this item, he has been
convinced that it is better to provide the necessary funding now,
because ifit is not spent it will be carried over to future years.
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M/S/C/U(Overson/Colvin) to approve increasing the Base "B" Repair
and Maintenance amount from $150,000 to $225,000. The additional
amount above the Total Estimated 1994 Repair and Maintenance
Expenditures would be a contingency for unanticipated equipment
repair.
6B - EASEMENT AGREEMENT IN. FOREST RIDGE PARK ON BEHALF OF DUANE
BAKER, 8R,, #AB94-169
The owner of building lots on the west side of N. Lafayette between
Burwell and 6th has approached the City about securing an easement
to the lots through Forest Ridge Park off of Summit Avenue. Summit
Avenue is an internal park street, not a public Right-of-Way. The
Parks & Recreation Commission has recommended approval of the
proposal with related park improvements and has forwarded the issue
to the Council to decide whether or not to authorize the Mayor to
sign the proposed agreement on behalf of the City.
Mr. Law stated having looked at the presentation made and
documentation provided, he feels this should not be presented to
the City Council in this format, but rather as a Public Hearing
item. He cited B.M.C. 13.12.030, "Parks Protection - Procedures to
Surplus or ChanGe Use, the following procedures shall apply to the
sale, possible sale, lease, or significant change in use shall mean
any activity which does not complimentor support a recreational
activity"; Subsection 13.12.030(b) states "The City Council shall
hold a minimum of two public hearings concerning the matter in
addition to other statutory hearings"; Subsection 13.12.030 (d)
states "A unanimous vote of the full Council membership is
necessary to sell any of the park assets described above or to
significantly change their use"; Subsection 13.12.030 (e) states
"In the absence of a unanimous vote to sell, or as an alternative
to meeting the criteria of Subsection (c) or (d) or the Council
may, by a simple majority of those present, refer the matter to the
voters at the next scheduled election". He pointed out on the site
plan that 25 percent of that block would become blacktop and to
him, that meant a significant amount.
Mr. Overson stated he appreciated Mr. Law's presentation and
understood it, however, Council did have the following option: 1)
pull the item; 2) table it; or 3) go through the process and
either accept it.or turn it down. He did not see any other options
at this time. Mr. Colvin asked the City Attorney to give his
opinion on Mr. Overson's statement. Ian Sievers, City Attorney,
stated in reference to Mr. Law's comments, he felt the procedure
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that was adopted in the Agenda Bill is interpreting the first
phrase that Mr. Law read, which talks about the procedures that
shall apply... one being a sale, lease, or a significant change in
use. He quoted: "a significant change in use shall mean any
activity which does not comDliment or support recreational
activity". He did discuss this issue with Ms. Vanneman prior to
her leaving the City, and her position was that the consideration
that the developer is offering the City, mainly the pavement of the
access road and parking, was a compliment or support of park
activity, otherwise the consideration offered would be worthless to
the parks system and they probably wouldn't want to give them an
easement. So, interpreting that phrase they found it complimentary
to park use in getting this paved parking for park use;'and for
that reason, they did not feel it was a significant change in use
being contrary to park use and requiring the procedures' of the
ordinance. Council may interpret that differently, again it casts
a cloud on what we are getting as consideration. But, he didn't
feel this hearing needed to be interpreted. The Parks Protection
Ordinance does not require extensive or any kind of notice
procedure prior to the hearing such as publications, posting, or
mailings to neighbors, but states Council shall hold a minimum of
two public hearings. He believed either Mr. Law or Council
President Huff-Menees mentioned at the prior Council meeting that
this Council takes public input and basically holds public hearings
on.every item on the Agenda. Tonight's item is a public hearing
and Council could continue the item and have a second public
hearing next week, if Council found it was not complimentary or
supporting for park uses. The other criteria would be that there
would have to ultimately be a unanimous vote of Council after the
second hearing. Mr. Colvim stated Mr. Sievers did not answer the
question that he asked. He questioned if a unanimous vote was
necessary to give this item approval? Mr. Sievers stated he felt
that was a reasonable reading of the ordinance. If Council decides
to hear the issue and pass it with a simple motion that it is a
contract and it is some interest in land, he thinks that is why the
significant change in use was included in the ordinance. He
believes inclusion of "significant use" was to capture the essence
of those interests in properties that were short of leases or sales
and set a performance standard. He felt that was a reasonable
interpretation and that they did not have to follow the Parks
Protection Ordinance procedures. The department felt the
consideration offered by the developer did compliment park use. If
Council feels it does not compliment or support park use, after
holding two hearings, they should pass it with a unanimous vote.
Mr. Colvim asked if there was any requirement to preannounce the
public hearings? Mr. Slevers stated no...agenda items are set and
basically Council holds public hearings on all agenda items.
Mr. Law questioned if he understood correctly, that if we are
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talking about a public hearing on land use that there is no
requirement to notify the residents around an area? Mr. Sievers
stated those are the type of public hearings, by ordinance, that
have additional notification procedures written into the Zoning
Code. In certain cases, the City has more than one notice of a
public hearing.
Mr. Winters stated based on confusion, he suggested tabling this
item until Mr. Pratt, who originated the Agenda Bill, returns from
vacation and conducts the presentation.
Mr. Overson reminded Council this item did come before Council
Committees, and their response was they did not like it. Mr.
Sievers' presentation basically puts the "ball back in Council's
court" and they must determine if, as proposed, this is something
that is useful for the park or if it actually represents a change
in land use. The other side of the concern is the reason the Parks
Protection Ordinance was written the way it was, because it goes
into the normal process that provides for an announcement as per
any normal Agenda item, which then announces the second hearing.
He did not want to take away the option for Mr. Winters to make a
motion to table at this time, but once such a motion is made,
Council must vote on it. Mr. Colvin stated he agreed with Mr.
Overson's comments and he did not want to take away the opportunity
from any citizen to speak on this issue at this time.
Mr. Farr raised a point of appearance of fairness in that he owns
a piece of property 1/2 a block from Forest Ridge Park. Mr.
Sievers stated Mr. Farr did not have a conflict in that this item
was in the nature of a contract with a private party and the City
as a corporation, and is not a land use hearing to determine how
the law applies to his right for a permit.
Mr. Law questioned how could Council make this become the first of
a two-meeting hearing and should Council take a vote on the issue
at this time? Mr. Sievers stated no vote should be made prior to
hearing input from both of the required hearings, if that is what
Council determines is needed. There would be no voteat this time
and Council would just continue the hearing to another time on the
Agenda.
C.D. Montgomez7 questioned if council voted to disapprove this
request, would it have to go forward to another hearing? Mr.
Sievers stated yes, and was a reasonable interpretation of the
procedures identified in the Parks Protection Ordinance. Mr.
Montgomez7 stated he first learned of this proposal through a
newspaper article and his first reaction was "not Forest Park
again". He was contacted by a resident of the subject area, who
objected to the proposal. Following that discussion, he made a
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walking tour of the area under consideration. After careful review
of Mr. Baker's intent, he does not support the proposal. He cited
a statement in the newspaper article: "Having townhouses there will
increase legitimate park use and discourage illegal or undesirable
activities". That comment was stated by someone in a subcommittee
and is inaccurate. Increased use of the park will only come if the
citizens of the City desire to use the park, which has very little
amenities for family picnic or sport activities. From his
observation, walkers and bikers are using the park. Neighbors of
the park are concerned about illegal activity taking place in the
park during evening hours. With the shortage of park space in the
City, it is inconceivable to allow developers to utilize any part
of any park for their personal use. He pointed out the statement
under Impact Of Non-Passage that the developer would only have
access to his site from north Lafayette and that park improvements
would not take place. Mr. Montgomery emphasized the developer knew
the access to the site when he purchased the property. He believed
the proposed parking area would be used by the developments
tenants/owners and not be of any benefit to the park. He pointed
out the proposed parking area was surrounded by trees and had a
limited view of the park itself.
Gordv Byrd questioned the City's Attorney's interpretation
regarding having public hearings and he believed notice must be
given in advance of such hearings. Mr. Overson assured Mr. Byrd
that discussion on this item is considered a hearing and could
register as the first of two hearings. Council does have an option
to choose to hold another hearing for further public input if they
determine that this is a proposed change in the use of the park.
Mr. Byrd questioned the method used to notify the public? Mr.
Overson explained notification was given for the normal Agenda
packet publication method the Friday before this meeting.
Bob Sauter stated he deals with the Legislature in Olympia and he
thinks before Council determines this is a public hearing they need
to get a ruling from the Attorney General. Even the State
Legislature publishes public hearing notices at least two weeks in
advance and this discussion is an item on the Agenda for the City
Council as New Business and not designated as a "Public Hearing".
De1 Knauss stated he was heavily involved in development of the
Parks Protection Ordinance and in no way is an easement across park
property not a substantial change in use. The proposal would only
benefit the developer and the only time of year the park needs
extra parking is at Easter. It appears discussion on this proposal
has been going on since April, however, at no time did anyone bring
the proposal before the residents at a Neighborhood Information
Network meeting. If Mr. Pratt was working under orders from the
Mayor to hush this up, then an apology needs to come from the
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Mayor. If Mr. Pratt was doing this on his own, something is
definitely wrong with department head's authority . He quoted
comments made by Mayor Horton: "over my dead body will I encroach
on any more parks". His response to that statement is...here we go
again. If parking improvements are needed at Forest Ridge, he will
personally donate $50.00 towards such improvements and he will
volunteer to seek out additional donations.
Richard Chrisinger stated being a part time resident of Bremerton
and Springfield, Missouri the way he learned about this issue was
through his Bremerton neighbors. He currently owns and pays taxes
on 16,000 sq. ft. of land to the north of the proposed easement.
He identified the following concerns: (1) he nor his neighbors were
aware of this subject matter prior to Saturday/August 10 newspaper
article; (2) does he run, walk or crawl since his property holdings
are up for sale? (3) Does this enhance his property valuation? (4)
When was the neighborhood going to be notified about this proposal?
(5) How many of the large 50+ year old trees are going to be
removed from said easement? (6) What happens with all the future
soil erosion that will be caused by the proposed construction; (7)
How high will bulkheads/retaining walls be to protect possible soil
erosion? (8) Will the easement land be graded to Summit Avenue
street level? (9) Who benefits from the sale of said timber? (10)
How much land does the City relinquish from Forest Ridge Park from
granter to grantee? (11) Will the developer pick up this land
easement up for taxable land holdings? (12) Was the City Council
aware of a recent fire within the park boundaries? (13) Is Council
aware of the trash dumping in park right-of-ways? (14) Is Council
aware of the traffic into the park during night time hours? (15)
Do you remember the big wind storm of a few years past...what a
uproar to have three trees cut down for safety to protect a house?
He had a copy of the easement agreement dated 4-26-94 and passed
out copies of that document to numerous Forest Ridge Park
neighbors. As a seller of a property, he is still responsible to
his new owner about subject easement planning. He is strongly
opposed to this proposal.
President Huff-Menees stated for clarification that this issue
might have been before the Park's Commission in April, but Council
did not see it until the week of August 1, nor did she know how
long it was under the consideration of the Parks Commission.
Tom Hahn stated he believed only the developer would gain from this
proposal and the park would just get smaller. There are other land
holders next to the park, with various zoning, who may want some
kind of concession to use park land? Such action would be
precedent setting that people can "pave over" a park. He was not
pleased that the residents in the subject area were "kept in the
dark" that this was being proposed. Whether or not there is a law
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stipulating public hearing notification, he felt such notification
should have been given to the surrounding residents saying "we're
going to talk about an easement". He believes the park is abused
by people dumping trash and changing the oil in their vehicles on
park property, not to mention drug dealing and violent crime in
that same area. He would like someone to put pressure on the Parks
Department to clean up the park through routine maintenance. For
quite some time the Boy Scouts have provided cleaning and
maintenance effort in the park.
Chet SimDson stated in his opinion, the City Attorney did not give
a straight answer on the "public hearing" issue or the voting
options. He was concerned over the practice of the City giving
away land and cited the time when Bremerton traded McCormick Woods
some property that had approximately $350,000 worth of timber on it
and the City offered to pay them $660,000 to take it off their
hands for another piece of property which they couldn't use or
never used. The City gave away land recently on Kitsap Way because
there was to be a better intersection at Kitsap and Marine Drive.
In his opinion, that intersection is not better than before, but
other people did benefit by the City giving away land. A few years
ago he called the Parks Department and asked them about a tennis
net, basketball net, repair of the swings at Forest Ridge Park.
The response he received from the person answering the telephone in
the department was "where is it". He pointed out the newspaper
article calling it the "almost forgotten park". He is very
familiar with that park and it is not a "forgotten park". The only
people who have forgotten the park is the Parks Department and the
City Council. Previously, downtown businesses were offered having
a beautiful road built providing access to their business so their
land would be worth more because they had spent 30 years gambling
on a no-nothing policy and they lost. Now the City is saying they
want to give away more land and part of the park will be taken away
to do it. Every district in every city of this County and every
County of this state and every state in this union are grappling
and struggling to get park land set aside for parks, and what does
the City's Parks Department tell us?...that they want to give part
of it away and deteriorate more of it by building bulkheads and
cutins on the down hill easement. Furthermore, he believed the
City cannot give away any part of the park because if you do it
would revert back to the original owner. That point was brought up
before and they were told that it was a fact.
Cecil McConne11 stated earlier there was discussion about the Parks
Protection Ordinance, however, he heard no mention of the Zoning
Ordinance. The Zoning Ordinance identifies several items of
allowed uses for Park and School Zones. Then it has other uses
allowed by Special Use Permit and there are unlisted uses - an
access road to a private development is an unlisted use of that
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parks property. If the use is not listed in the Zoning Ordinance,
which it is not, it shall be considered an unlisted use and an
unlisted use may be approved only through the Special Use Permit
process and may be approved only if the Planning Commission finds
it to be similar to the limited uses that are allowed in that
particular zoning district.
Jan Hahn stated she did not view development as a bad thing, but
questioned what was meant by "townhouses", how are they to be built
and will they become an instant slum. President Huff-Menees
explained the only thing that can be discussed at this time has to
do with the easement...the development project is something that
will be addressed at another time. Mrs. Hahn stated she could not
foresee another instant slum developed within Bremerton. To the
casual observer Bremerton looks good, but it is things like this
that happens internally and is not good. When issues such as this
come before Council they should also include full disclosure of
what kind of development would take place.
Gene Hawkins stated he came to Bremerton in 1937 and purchased a
home on Terrell Avenue. He and his wife walk through Forest Ridge
Park every morning, as do several other neighbors. In talking with
one of his neighbors, he learned that Forest Ridge Park property
was deeded to the City of Charleston with the restriction that no
chain saw touch the trees in the park. He felt that was the right
attitude to take toward this park. He felt there use to be a Parks
Department that cared about the park, but that is not the case
today. Someone removed the "no riding on trails" signs and now
motorcycles are driving through the park at 2:00 AM., and people
using mountain bikes are tearing up the trails. He was very
concerned over the fact that recently someone set a fire in the
park, approximately 30 ft. in diameter, that was extinguished 'by
the Fire Department.
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Carol Artands expressed her concern about lack of notification of
this being an issue and saw no benefit for parking spaces off of
Summit Avenue. She agreed that Easter was the only time a large
crowd gathered at the park and usually people attending that event
park along the street. She is concerned about the narrowness of
Lafayette Street. She urged that this issue be carefully
considered by Council and questioned this use as benefit to the
park.
Katherine Glade stated she visited Forest Ridge Park and read the
logo posted, which stated: "Bremerton Parks committed to enriching
life in Bremerton". On March 11 she was interviewed for a
volunteer position with the Parks Commission by Mayor Lynn Horton
and Parks Commission member Larry Hall. At that time, she talked
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about Mr. Baker's project and the Mayor seemed surprised about the
proposal. Mr. Hall went on to explain there was already an access
road for a private home in that general location and Mr. Baker's
request of access through the park would provide lighting and
additional parking spaces. Mr. Hall made the comment to her: ."this
issue is going to go through". She was very uncomfortable with Mr.
Hall's comments and urged Council to give this proposal close
scruteny because it does not sound right to her. No additional
parking is needed in the park, however, the Park Department needs
to come in and cut ivy down from the trees and provide needed
maintenance. She called the Parks Director three weeks ago to
voice her concern, however, as of this date she had not received a
call back. She also had difficulty getting the previous Parks
Director to return her calls. She agreed that the Boy Scouts were
the ones doing most of the clean up work in the park. To start
nibbling away at City park land is something that might have
happened in the '50's...we're more aware now to let that happen.
George Goings stated he has known about Mr. Baker's project for
some time and has been opposed to it. He first learned of the
project from the Department of Community Development and at that
time there was no talk of needing an easement through the park.
From looking at the drawing the development, it looks like the
developer needs additional parking for his development. He agreed
with others that the park does not need a parking lot. There was
a large parking lot next to the restrooms in the park and that area
was a problem from illegal activity taking place so the Boy Scouts
came in and blocked off the parking lot and turned it into a
playground. Now, a proposal is before Council to put in another
parking lot saying that the park needs it. He did not know where
that kind of thinking would lead to a better use of the park. He
felt the newspaper article was slanted too much in favor of the
proposal and stated things like: "out-of-the-way, largely unknown
Forest Ridge Park". He questioned "out-of-the-way to who and
"largely unknown" to who? He has lived in the this area since 1951
and Forest Ridge Park is part of a lot of peoples lives. If an
easement is allow for a portion of the park, it would make an
island...the first island of maybe many because the whole strip
along North Lafayette is zoned for apartments. He hoped the City
Council would turn down this proposal.
Barbara Roland stated she is a teacher at Magnuson Alternative
School and threeor four times a year she uses the park for "camp
cooking" classes. Magnuson School also runs classes for survival
skills in the park and Frances Haddon Morgan Center also uses the
park a great deal. Part of her after-hours activities as a
vocational teacher is having kids do projects and some of those
projects have to do with cleaning up the park. Magnuson School
would like to use the park more, but she find it difficult with no
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picnic tables and lack of cooking areas or barbecue areas. She
questioned how would taking a large chunk of the park help Forest
Ridge Park, Magnuson School, Frances Haddon Morgan and all who do
use the park? She did not support seeing part of the park land
going to a private person's use.
Roy McInnis stated he is not against development in the City,
however, there are certain times when certain things come along
that should not be brought before Council. He does not understand
how this item got on the Agenda. Earlier in the discussion the
Council President stated they are just now hearing about this
proposal and now he hears later that this discussion should be
turned into a public hearing. He discounted statements made of
input by Mr. Pratt and Mr. Hall...who cares they are not here. He
urged Council to listen to and heed citizens input. He did not
support approving this item. Mayor Hotton stated she would respond
as to how this item got placed on the Agenda. She nor her staff
have the authority to take away the responsibility of the City
Council. The City Council is the entity that approves or
disapproves easements. The~applicant came to the City with his
proposal and asked that Council have the easement issue brought
before them. She does not get involved with a lot of land use
issues and the reason for that is because there are set procedures
for land use. She believes it is inappropriate for her to get
involved either pro or con and try to inflict her opinions on the
process that is set by ordinance. What she can do is to work with
that procedure and if she sees there are issues coming up time-
after-time that are stumbling blocks as far as policy, then she
will recommend to staff to bring those issues before Council for
policy making decision. She did not know every detail about this
proposal, but was aware it was requesting an easement across park
property. Until a short time ago, she did not realize it involved
development of parking and the possibility of change in park use.
This item did go through the Parks Commission and she does not know
how it was presented to them. Clearly, a better job of
notification needs to be done. on issues such as this. She had
tried to get a neighborhood meeting, on this issue, set up prior to
this meeting, but was unsuccessful due to Mr. Pratt being on
vacation. After she and her Department Heads reviewed the Agenda
Bill on this item, the applicant was notified that he must be
present at the Council meeting or she would ask to have the item
pulled off the Agenda until Mr. Pratt returned. She emphasized
Council is not to be blamed for bringing this item before them, but
is something that was generated by City staff upon request by the
applicant. It is Council's decision whether or not they wish to
approve this item, not hers, the Parks Commission, or the Director
Of Community Development.
Jack Lef~oskl stated if Council was not embarrassed he was
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embarrassed for them. He has attended many Council meetings and in
his opinion this is the "biggest screw up" he has ever seen. He
suggested that Mr. Winter's suggestion be followed and table this
item until Mr Pratt returns, a determination is made whether or not
public notices are required to be sent out to residents within the
subject area, and clarification of legal procedures. He questioned
if this proposal should have gone before the Planning Commission?
Roy McInnis stated if Council tabled this item now it will be gone
and not brought back.
Gordy Byrd stated since there has been so much negative testimony
on this item, he felt it should not be on the Agenda. His
understanding of "tabling" was that all discussion would stop and
then brought back for further discussion at another time. He
questioned if this discussion would be considered as the "first
hearing"? Kathleen McCluskey, City Clerk, stated this is the first
hearing.
Del Knauss questioned if the proponent chose to ask Council to pull
this item at this time would that be possible? Mr. Sievers stated
yes. Mr. Overson stated if the proponent asks the item to be
pulled off the Agenda, it would be removing the present action, but
that does not say the individual couldn't return it at another time
in another form. Mr. Knauss stated the reason he raised that
question was because he was not sure how Council was treating the
issue at this time. He questioned if Council was going to vote
"No" and say they are done? Or, will Council say they consider
this the first hearing and another hearing will be held?
Mr. Law asked the City Attorney if this discussion is the first
hearing and what has to be done to do this correctly so that it
gets resolved and everyone feels that they have had their fair
chance to express themselves?. Mr. Sievers stated there is a
problem with the Parks Protection Ordinance in that it calls for a
fact finding to be initially made before proceeding with the item.
Someone at some point has to determine whether this interest in the
park land is complimentary or supports recreational activity. He
takes it the prior Parks Director felt it did and proceeded in a
particular way. And, the Parks Commission agreed with the proposal
after giving their review. If Council finds that it does not
compliment or support recreational park activities, they can still
go through the entire procedure of two hearings and require a
unanimous vote. Council must decide whether this item requires only
a simple vote
of the Council at one hearing, which is tonight, or whether they
will require following procedures of the Parks Protection Ordinance
because it does not compliment or support recreational park
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activity and require two hearings and a unanimous vote. Mr.
Winters asked for a clear explanation of what is meant by a
"unanimous" vote. Mr. Sievers stated that is one of the procedures
listed under the Parks Protection Ordinance that Council is
required to follow, if they find that a sale, lease or significant
change in use as defined in the ordinance exists. He quoted the
following: "to approve the action it requires a unanimous vote of
the full Council membership". That requirement means all currently
serving City Council members, not those sitting as a quorum. Mr.
Overson pointed out Mayor Horton and the City Attorney stated that
the City Council has been empowered to make the decision on this
item and have to take the "hits" afterward. Mr. Winters stated he
sat in on a committee meeting with Pat Harris, Director of Parks
and Recreation, along with Council members Farr and Dawkins. At
that time, Mr. Harris stated he was not sure as to what he had in
the proposal, but Mr. Pratt had given it to him to present. Such
a statement disturbed Mr. Winters and now at this meeting he is
embarrassed and appalled over what is taking place because Mr.
Harris did not have answers to his questions and Mr. Pratt was not
available due to his being on vacation. Also, it disturbed him
that he was stopped from making a motion'to table the item early on
in the discussion.
President Huff-Menees stated she is not embarrassed about what is
happening during this discussion. She knows of no other method of
a public opportunity for people to address this issue for Council
to learn their feelings. She did receive several telephone calls,
but in response to Mr. Winters and Mr. Lefcoski she is not
embarrassed at all. The newspaper article alluded to Council
giving their approval during the Committee review process. She
assured the public. that was not correct, however, the Parks
Commission did approve the proposal so that it could come before
the City Council. Council has not made a prior determination on
this issue and what the Committee did was decided this issue needed
to be heard before the full Council and the opportunity for the
public to address this issue. Information Council received on this
issue or any issue that the public gives input for or against is
very important and enables the Council to make decision that they
know their constituency is concerned about.
Bob Sauter asked if Mr. Baker was present to respond to concerns
raised by the public and City Council? President Huff-Menees
explained Mr. Baker had the right to choose whether of not to
speak. Mr. Sauter emphasized Mr. Baker was the person who should
explain the intent of his request.
Elizabeth Bus11 stated she had a misunderstanding about the
proposal and did not realize the subject area was even a part of
the park. She also understood that the proposed parking would not
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be used by tenants of the development. She felt it would be nice
to provide parking for people who visit the park and allow access
to the park for people living on Mr. Baker's property. At the
beginning she was against the proposal, but now after learning more
she is in favor of the easement request.
Duane Baker, proponent, stated he has listened to lots of comments,
both good and bad during this discussion. The particular area of
the park that his proposal would affect is currently not used. He
went to the expense of having the area surveyed and provided that
information to Mr. Pratt, Director Of Community Development. This
project has been developing since January 20, 1994, when he
received a letter back from the City. He has taken this issue
through the Parks Department, Parks Commission, Engineering
Department, Department of Community'Development in an attempt to
cover all areas correctly. The proposed housing units are 1-2
bedroom single family residences. Mr. Overson asked if Mr. Baker
currently had a building permit? Mr. Baker responded no. Mr.
Ore:son pointed out this discussion should not include what Mr.
Baker is proposing to build, just an easement. Mr. Baker stated
his proposal for an easement would allow access to the upper area,
which would provide a convenient drop off place for people living
on his property. His proposal also showed parking for visitors as
well as homeowners on his property. The new parking area proposed
for the park was the idea of Park personnel because they are in
need of parking. He was also proposing to put in lights so that
the parking lot would be lighted and he saw this as giving park
improvements at Forest Ridge Park a boost in the right direction.
In response to the comment that the proposed building project would
turn into a slum, he assured the public and City Council he builds
quality projects and cited several locations of buildings he has
developed.
C. D. Montgomer7 stated he would like the City Council to resolve
this issue at this time and not table it.
President Huff-Menees stated there is one matter that needs to be
clarified with respect to this issue that addresses a few of the
concerns expressed, one of which was perhaps this should have been
a package that addressed the total issue. She emphasized there is
no "package" as Mr. Baker indicated he has not applied for any
permits. Mr. Baker's proposal is not something that would require
him to go before the Planning Commission, so this is the
opportunity for this issue to be heard.
Mr. Law referenced B.M.C. 13.12 (D) and asked if a unanimous vote
procedure is appropriate only if this discussion is considered a
hearing and it is the second hearing or is that a procedure that
could take place at this time? Mr. Sievers explained the way this
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has been proposed is a single hearing with a simple majority vote
because it compliments or supports recreational activity. He is
not saying Council has to agree with that, but that is how it has
been proposed. Therefore, Council can hold a single hearing, which
they have, with a simple vote to reject or approve it by a majority
vote. He would feel comfortable with that interpretation if
Council decides that this is a supporting activity. The issue can
be disposed of during this hearing. He pointed out (D) is a
subpart of .030, which is one of the procedures required if Council
finds that the proposal does not compliment or support recreational
activity.
Mr. Colvin stated it was his understanding, from the City
Attorney's remarks, that the first thing Council must do is
determine if this proposal comes under the Parks Protection
Ordinance. In response to those who wanted the item tabled at the
beginning of the discussion, he supported opening the discussion
and allowing the citizens to voice their opinions.
Mr. Overson stated to shed light on that question the way it is
proposed, it is not covered under the Parks Protection Ordinance
because it is proposed as a complimentary or supplementary use to
the park. If Council takes that view point, what they are
considering is an easement and must limit the discussion to that
issue. Mr. Colvin questioned if he was correct in that Council can
make the determination whether or not it comes under the Parks
Protection Ordinance? Mr. Sievers stated that was correct.
Mr. Neville stated he disagreed with Mr. Overson on that point. It
is specifically spelled out that Forest Ridge Park falls under the
Parks Protection Ordinance and any time Council wants to do
something with any of that property it has to be, in his opinion,
a full unanimous vote decision in order to change any part of it in
any way. Mr. Overson stated if you take the line of reasoning that
it does come under the Parks Protection Ordinance, then any action
Council takes now, other than having another hearing, would not be
correct and the only way this could happen is through a majority
vote. Council can show its intent by dispensing with it at this
time if they determine it does not need a second hearing or staff
input or study. Mr. Colvin asked if Council needed a majority
vote to determine if this item comes under the Parks Protection
Ordinance? Mr. 8ievers stated to continue with Mr. Overson's
thinking, he believes that may be the best way to propose it. If
Council agrees that it compliments or supports recreational
activities and vote on that and disagree with it, they can defeat
the item at this hearing and a second hearing would not be needed.
In fact, if Council determines it does not compliment or support
this proposal it doesn't make sense anyway because if you want a
second hearing you don't want this consideration...a parking lot
development, but something else like money. Mr. Colvln challenged
Mr. Sievers's earlier comment that it was Council's Option whether
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this issue comes under the Parks Protection Ordinance or not. Mr.
Sievers stated Mr. Colvin was correct. Mr. Colvin asked if Council
could vote, at this time, as to whether or not the issue comes
under the Parks Protection Ordinance? Mr. Sievers stated in a
sense it is 'covered by the Parks protection Ordinance because
Forest Ridge Park is included in that ordinance.
M/S/C/U(Overson/Law) to deny the application for an easement.
President Huff-Menees asked for clarification if there was another
option to refer this item back to Mr. Pratt for further information
without taking any action? Mr. Sievers stated Council could
continue the hearing to another date in order to obtain more
information. Mr. Overson stated if Council soundly defeats this
issue at this time it sends a message to staff that there is no
consideration for an easement at this site. If staff wants to
again propose such a plan, they need to present it in a different
format and covers the needs of the Parks Protection Ordinance,
which is a different process. Mr. McConnell has also opened the
staff's eyes to the fact it may even be a consideration under the
Zoning Ordinance, which would take a different process.
Mr. Neville stated he feels strongly that a determination of
whether this proposal falls under the Parks Protection Ordinance
should be first prior to action on the stated motion. Mr. Colvin
stated he agreed with Mr. Neville.
Mr. Law asked should the motion on the floor be voted on and the
easement be granted, does Council still have the recourse of going
to the Park Protection Ordinance and have the second hearing?
Kathleen McCluskey, City Clerk, stated by voting at this time
Council would be deciding which procedures governs. As Mr. Sievers
explained, it does fall under the Parks Protection Ordinance
because it is part of that ordinance, however, within that act it
gives some criteria to decide if it fits that criteria. If the
stated motion fails, then Council has not approved it and another
motion would be required to approve the proposal.
Vote on motion: Unanimous.
6C - GORST CREEK BASIN STUDY - PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTWITH
AGI, INC., AND INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH PUD NO. I OF KITSAP
COUNTY, #AB94-170
A professional services agreement has been negotiated with AGI,
Inc. to perform a study of the Gorst Creek Basin. This basin
contains several wells, a reservoir, and a stream integral to
Bremerton's water supply resources.
This study will assess the dynamics of the surface water and
groundwater and evaluate water resource management options. This
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amount for this study is not to exceed $73,200.
PUD No. 1 has agreed to fund this study in full from their "Water
Resource and Conservation Fund" as described in the attached
interlocal agreement.
Kathleen Caball, Water Resources Manager, stated she would stand by
for any questions Council may have.
Mr. Meville asked if City staff assisting with this procedure would
be paid from this funding? Ms. Caball stated no, the funding was
granted in order to pay the consultant fees. Some of the data
collection is being done at well levels that is already being done
under operation and maintenance functions. Mr. Meville questioned
the number of City staff to be involved in this procedure? Ms.
Oa~all pointed out there are estimated man-hours on specific
duties.
Mr. Overson noted the consultant will provide 10 copies of the
report to the City along with a workshop on the end result, and
questioned whom else will receive copies of the report? Ms. Caball
stated the data being collected is not only important to the City
but regionally and County-wide. The PUD will receive that
information in order to assist in regional planning. There are
similar projects being conducted in the County, which will also be
used for regional planning. Mr. Overson questioned why would the
PUD want to fund this program for the City? Ms. Caball explained
the City requested funding from the PUD as part of their grant
funding program. She assured receiving these funds for a City
project is not something special and other water districts have
also been recipients of PUD grant funds. Mr. Overson stated the
larger part of that question is what will the PUD do with the
information at the regional level and who has the decision power on
that information? Ms. Caball stated any regional planning will
involve the City. One of PUD programs is development of the Kitsap
County Ground Water Management Plan and the City is involved with
that project. The end product from that study will be similar to
the City's Watershed Report, which will be brought to Council for
their concurrence or nonconcurrence. Mr. Overson clarified his
concern that this proposal appears to be of benefit for the City
when in fact it benefits the PUD. Ms. Caball assured Mr. Overson
that both the City and the PUD benefit from the study and it adds
to the data base of information on ground water/surface water in
the whole County. Mr. Overson stated his concern is that the
County currently has the reins on growth management and a large
part of that is the utility and a large part of the utility is the
water. He wants to make sure that information on water resources
is correctly used as it relates to growth management and as it
relates to the City's goals for growth management. He trusts that
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Ms. Cahall and other City staff are watching out for the City's
interest. Ms. Caha11 emphasized this study will assist the City to
do what Mr. Overson described as it relates to growth management in
the City.
Mr. Colvin questioned the source of funding? Ms. Cahall explained
the funding is coming out of the PUD's Water Resource and
Conservation Fund. Mr. Colvin stated he felt it was about time the
City started working more cooperatively with Kitsap County cities,
the County and surrounding Counties. Mr. Overson stated he agreed
with Mr. Colvin, however, he wanted everyone to understand where
the money really comes from. The Kitsap County P.U.D. tax is
something that everyone pays and it was about time the City
received something back for all the money that has been paid into
that entity. Former Councilman Collins was also concerned about
the County PUD and its controlling County-widewater resources.
Mr. Farr questioned the process for selecting AGI, Inc., as the
consultant service? Ms. Cahall explained the department advertised
for a request for qualifications that included the fact that the
City was looking for a hydro-geological firm that specialized in
this kind of project. Seventeen firms responded to that
advertisement and following a committee review, five firms were
asked to submit a specific proposal for the project and AGI was
selected from those proposals.
Public comment - none.
M/S/C/U(Dawkins/Colvin) to approve the professional services
agreement with AGI, Inc. and the Interlocal Agreement with PUD No.
1 of Kitsap County to fund this project and authorize the Mayor to
execute the same, subject to City Administrative Policies and
Procedures.
7A - ORDINANCE NO. 4478 (SECOND READING) CLOSURE OF MONTGOMERY
AVENUE AT 11TH STREET, #AB94-165
Mr. Dawkins raised the point that he was not present during the
previous discussion on this issue and asked if he should step down
from hearing this item? Ian Sievers, City Attorney, stated there
is nothing to require him to step down from second reading of the
ordinance.
Kathleen McCluskey, City Clerk, read the following letter from
Safeway, Inc.: It has come to our attention that the Council has
begun the street closing process. 'Our office has some concerns
about closing Montgomery Street. In addition, we were not notified
about this public process and hearing.
As an adjacent property owner, we are requesting to be notified and
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that we are allowed to make testimony. We have some concerns about
Montgomery Street being closed as follows:
1) What will happen to the traffic that currently uses Montgomery?
2) How will this impact traffic in front of our store?
3) What happens to the level of service at the intersection of 9th
and Callow and llth and Callow?
4) Will local traffic now be re-routed to other neighborhood
streets?
This briefly outlines some of Safeway's concerns. However, just as
important is that we should have been notified and we are very
concerned that we were not.
At this time, we are opposed to this street closure and would like
the City to respond to our concerns as outlined in this letter.
Thank you for your time. The letter was signed by Mitchell S.
Johnson, AIA, Design Manager.
Mayor Hotton stated in talking about this issue with the Traffic
Safety Committee and staff, she feels strongly neighborhood streets
should not be used as major thoroughfares. One thing everyone seems
to agree with is that neighborhoods should not be deteriorated
because of people using their streets as bypassing thoroughfares
and she concurs with that position. She does not want to see
neighbors being pitted against neighbors when everyone agrees that
their common goal is to make their neighborhood safe. It is of
interest to her that Safeway wrote the letter that was read into
the record after they already indicated they are willing to
contribute to the landscaping required once the street is closed.
The City's Campus Evergreen Plan identifies street closures as
possible ways to enhance neighborhoods and if Council chooses not
to approve this proposal, she will be drafting the Engineering
Department to look at the transportation corridor in that area
because she believes it does create some problems for easterly
neighborhoods as well. She also believes that other areas around-
the City are impacted by their streets being used as bypasses from
major intersections and those concerns should also be looked at in
a comprehensive fashion.
Randy Witt, City Engineer, stated he had no additional information
to add over what was presented at the previous Council meeting on
this issue.
Mr. Neville asked how could the City neglected to inform Safeway of
this hearing? Mr. Witt explained it was an oversight on their
part. They have no notification procedure identified for an issue
such as this. As a result of this incident, he sees the value of
having a notification process that involves the surrounding
properties. On the other hand, Safeway was not an entity that he
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was concerned about since a condition of their development had to
do with their agreeing to do the landscaping if the street closure
became a reality. He was under the impression they were well aware
of the project and in support of it. Mr. Colvin asked if it was
too late to give Safeway an opportunity for input? Mr. Witt stated
he discussed the issue with the author of the letter, Mitchell
Johnson, and from that conversation he believed a representative
from Safeway would be present at this hearing. Mr. Colvin asked if
Council should refrain from any action until Safeway has an
opportunity to give their input? Mr. Witt stated delaying action
on this proposal would be possible if Council determined that was
an important element to their decision. He reminded Council that
Safeway has closed both of the driveways that previously exited on
to Montgomery.
Mr. Overson stated he has heard that other are strongly opposed to
closing off Montgomery Street and asked if Mr. Witt was aware of
that as well? Mr. Witt stated he is aware that residents on
Rainier Street are concerned and may want to do something similar
if traffic increases on their street. There is a community concern
among streets and the City does not want to see neighbor pitted
against neighbor. Mr. Overson asked if the goal was to close off
all streets? Mr. Witt stated he believes the goal involve keeping
streets safe from speeding traffic. Mr. Overson pointed out other
streets are used as alternates to main thoroughfares, such as
Highland Avenue, thereby we are back to the precedent issue and he
was not sure if the Engineering Department or the City is prepared
to handle that possibility. Mr. Witt stated safety is a key point
and this particular request is being driven from within the
community to stop traffic. The Engineering Department supports the
proposal because of the amount of traffic on llth Street, not the
traffic traveling down Montgomery. From historical data,
Montgomery Street has not reached the threshold of accidents that
would bring about traffic control device installation, but it is an
area that has been watched for possible closure and it meets the
needs that is being watched on llth Street. They have not come out
and stated they support stopping through-traffic on Montgomery
Avenue, however, they do support stopping left turns off of llth
Street on to Montgomery. Again, it is not a warranted situation,
but it is not a bad idea.
Mr. Farr stated he appreciated the Mayor's comment that if this
proposal did not pass, she would look at the traffic corridor,
which he felt should be looked in any event. He personally
believes from the llth Street aspect there are a couple of
intermediate steps that are more appropriate than a street closure:
(1) prohibiting left turns off of llth Street onto Montgomery; (2)
enhanced enforcement. He has never seen a closed street reopened.
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Mr. Colvln asked that the purpose for closing Montgomery Avenue be
restated. M~. Witt explained Montgomery Avenue residents presented
him with a petition requesting the street be closed at the llth
Street intersection due to too much through traffic on their
street. His department performed the analysis that is required by
WAC before taking any action. As they evaluated the petition, they
looked at it from the questions they were obligated to answer
because of the WAC and what resulted was the fact Engineering could
support the request because of people turning left off of llth
Street on to Montgomery. This was an issue that they had been
watching for some time from a safety factor. Up to this time, they
did not have adequate accident history in that area to justify
doing something, but is an area they have watched closely.
Colvim asked if Mr. Witt was saying a "No Left Turn" sign wouldn't
accomplish the same affect? Mr. Witt stated no, the petition
presented specifically asked that the street be closed. Mr. Colvim
questionedMr. Witt's response to a "No Left Turn" sign? Mr. Witt
stated if the petition had asked for a "No Left Turn" sign they
would have supported it for the same reasons. Absent a petition,
accidents at that location are not sufficient to warrant traffic
control measures. Mr. Colvim questioned if the street is closed,
is the City then shifting that traffic to another street? Mr. Witt
stated what they want to do is shift that traffic down to the
signalized intersection on Callow Avenue and keep the traffic where
it should be. The reality is some people may choose to drive down
Rainier Avenue rather than Callow Avenue once Montgomery is closed
off. Residents on Rainier Avenue are concerned that traffic will
be shifted to their street and the Mayor wants to address this type
of problem with a plan and not piecemeal. Mr. Colvin pointed out
in the City of Seattle there are areas that have devices that
restrict vehicles' speed for traffic regulation. Mr. Witt noted
traffic islands have their own pros and cons and street detours is
another alternative as are speed bumps.
Mr. Winters stated in getting the drivers to use Callow Avenue, how
far up would the left turn lane be extended up llth Street? Mr.
Witt explained the left turn lane is already established and is a
protected turn lane at Callow and llth Street. The Traffic Safety
Committee did discuss the possibility of lengthening that turn
lane, however, after preliminary investigation it was determined
that the lanes are too narrow without some curb/gutter/sidewalk
reconstruction.
Mr. Dawkins stated he received complains about people using side
roads in his east Bremerton district rather than using the Sylvan
Way/Wheaton Way intersection. He asked if there was any solution
to keep people on major thoroughfares? Mr. Witt stated closure of
a street is one solution, however there needs to be a comprehensive
look at all areas with community involvement. Mr. Farr stated from
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personal experience under certain conditions one can spend quite a
long time if you get caught the wrong way at the light, which might
be the reason why a lot of people try to avoid that light. Mr~
Witt stated that would show up on any light and is a matter of a
person's level of patients. He encourages people to time
themselves and generally they are delayed less than five minutes.
It is his understanding lights are on a 2.5 minute cycle. Another
point to bring out is that when someone sees a red light ahead they
make a decision to take a short cut through a side street prior to
entering a turn lane. Mr. Overson stated he believed one reason
people use Montgomery street as a cut off is because the light at
the top of llth Street at Kitsap has a long waiting period prior to
turning green. Mr. Witt stated the issue of traffic signalization
can be reviewed, however, llth Street has much more traffic than
6th Street.
Mr. Law asked if no left turns are allowed off of llth Street on to
Montgomery Avenue and only right turns allowed off of Montgomery
onto llth Street (going north), could the Engineering Department
implement some programs to slow up traffic on Montgomery? Mr. Witt
stated the issue of traffic controlling devices was something the
Mayor, Safety Traffic Committee and he need to discuss in that it
also affects other areas within the City. Mr. Law questioned if
the decision was to put up two "No Left Turn" signs now and then
implement the closure of Montgomery Avenue six months from now
would it cost the same.? Mr. Witt stated it would cost more since
there is a cost to mount the "No Left Turn" signs as well as the
signage and construction work that would be required for the
closure.
Jennifer Hipsley, representing residents of Rainier Avenue, stated
due to the proposed closure of Montgomery Avenue, they have signed
and submitted a petition that addresses the current traffic
situation on their street. Some of the residents haves expressed
concerns that auto dealers on 6th Street are using their
neighborhood to test run their vehicles. They would like to have
someone from the City look into that situation as well.
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Duane Vickor3[, Safeway Store Manager, stated he was asked by
Mitchell Johnson, author of the letter read into the record, to
attend this meeting and convey Safeway's concerns about the
proposed closure of Montgomery Avenue. He questioned the procedure
of notification for this hearing considering the Safeway property
is within the subject area being discussed? Mr. Witt explained
there is no requirement in City policy, ordinance or otherwise to
notify people when action such as this happens. People living
along montgomery Avenue were aware due to their signing the
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petition. He did not have a set notification process like that
used in the Planning Department for land use decisions. He saw the
value of such a notification system and apologized for not engaging
in a more extensive notice posting process. However, he believed
Safeway was informed of the proposal considering their permit for
their construction project included an agreement that they would
provide the landscaping and maintenance for the closed-off-street
area. Mr. Law stated he felt Safeway needed to look into their
internal communications process because someone within the Safeway
Corporation had to have knowledge of the subject closure to make a
commitment to maintain the area created by blocking off the street.
M:. Vicko~-~ stated he became aware of that fact at this meeting.
If MontgomeryAvenue is blocked off at llth Street, where does that
end and if it continues, will it make llth Street a freeway? He
believes much of the traffic using Montgomery was generated from
the access to the Safeway property, which no longer exists because
of the construction project currently underway. He feels there is
a safety issue with people traveling very fast on Montgomery
Avenue, however, he did not know if closing the street is the
answer. He does not recall seeing Police officers patrolling that
area to check for speeders. One of the concerns mentioned in Mr.
Johnson's letter was what will happen to the traffic currently
using MontgomeryAvenue. That concern was also raised by residents
in the Rainier Avenue area. Safeway's concern is how shifting of
traffic onto Callow will affect their store.
Mr. Colvlm asked how will the closure of Montgomery impact the
Safeway store when it reopens? Mr. Vickory stated the potential
problem he sees is the possibility of losing customers driving by
the store on llth Street and remember they needed to pick something
up at Safeway and would normally turn on Montgomery and circle back
around to the store.
Mr. Farr asked Mr. Vickory's assessment of how truck traffic would
be routed with completion of the new Safeway Store. Mr. Vickory
stated when Safeway Store was in operation trucks did access the
off-loading area off of Montgomery. It is his understanding that
the new store's off-loading area will be accessed by truck
traveling on callow, turning on 9th Street and backing into the
loading area. Mr. Witt pointed out the City worked with Safeway to
design the loading dock area so that the noise level would be
reduced as much as possible and existing of trucks will be directed
onto Montgomery heading south to Six Street. Mr. Vickory stated he
recognizes there is a safety issue and Safeway wants to be a good
neighbor and business in the community. He was not sure that
closing off Montgomery Street itself would be the right approach.
Cherie Brown stated she lives on the corner of lOth and Montgomery
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and wanted Council to know there are three home day cares operating
on Rainier Avenue and elementary school is one block away.
Residents in her area have experienced numerous incidents of
vehicles speeding down Rainier Avenue and she is a frequent caller
to 911 reporting license plates. She is not against closing off
Montgomery Street and if approved she would like to see something
done to help traffic control on Rainier as well. She asked the
City to provide for some kind of assistance to the neighborhoods to
the east of Montgomery at the same time Montgomery is closed and
not wait until it become even a bigger problem.
Loren Hvsslev stated he shares the concerns of others about traffic
moving eastward from Montgomery once it is closed. Things that he
did not take into consideration prior to input given by the Safeway
representative was trucks coming up 9th Street to enter the store's
loading area. He questioned what about the people who live along
9th Street and the impact delivery trucks will have on their
neighborhood and are the streets built to take the weight of trucks
coming to the store?
Mr. McCaslin stated even though the Safeway representative says
truck traffic will go south on Montgomery he believes they will
continue turning north on Montgomery and then making a right turn
onto llth Street. He did not believe truck traffic would re-route
to Rainier because of the narrow street with parking on both sides.
The only way to eliminate the problem of truck traffic on
Montgomery if the street is not closed, is to post it "No Trucks
Allowed". His own vehicles has been hit four times, once by a
Safeway truck.
Joshua Stewart stated he was the person who started the petition to
close Montgomery Street. He disputed the point that proper
notification was not given and cited the number of places it was
printed publicly. Previously, he brought to Dan Eisses' attention
that Safeway would deed the corner of Montgomery, a part of the
store's parking lot, to make the turn around if needed. They
would do that with the guarantee that the City could not keep that
piece of property if the turn around was not made at that time.
They opted for the deadend not only to stop truck traffic but to
also stop speeders. He cited numerous times when vehicles parked
along Montgomery street have been hit, which resulted in residents
having higher insurance premiums. He acknowledged the fears of
Rainier Avenue residents, however, there is not enough room to put
a deadend or a turn around at the end of Rainier Avenue and.llth
Street. There is adequate room to put in a deadend and Safeway has
promised to give additional land to allow turn around space. Also,
the City Engineer stated Safeway agreed to landscape and maintain
the strip as part of their permitting process. The Rainier Avenue
problem.also has to be addressed, and he supports no left turns
onto Rainier, no left turns out of Rainier, and no thru streets.
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Safeway has stated that they will inform their trucks not to use
Montgomery, but they will not be able to control other delivery
trucks. Regarding the cost of a "No Left Turn" sign, there is
already a flasher hanging on a messenger wire at llth and Rainier,
so that would even be cheaper to hang a sign there.
C. D. Montgomer~ stated his support of the Montgomery road closure
due to the amount of traffic that gets backed up every time someone
stops to turn left onto Montgomery off of llth. He disagreed with
Safeway's comment that the traffic will make it difficult for
customers coming in and out of the store only on Callow, and
compared the businesses on Wheaton Way.
Jim Brown summed up that safety, Rainier Avenue's problems, and the
noise of the trucks are his issues of concern and they have all
been addressed tonight. He fully supports the closure of
Montgomery.
James Hindburg is not a resident of Montgomery Avenue, but is a
Safeway customer. His concern is the increased traffic on Callow
due to Montgomery being closed, making it more difficult for him to
get to and leave the Safeway Parking lot. He understands the
concerns of the residents of the area, but he also has concerns of
the new problems that would be created with this solution being
presented.
Duane Vickor]Fstated that Safeway agreed with Mr. Hindburg, and was
concerned about the affect the Montgomery road closure would have
on all customers. He stated he was not at the meeting when the
petition was brought to Council to close Montgomery, and wanted to
know the reasons the residents wanted the road closed. President
Huff~Menees stated that the reason given was "public safety". Mr.
VlckorV pointed out that the safety issue before Council is not
necessarily the trucks that are using that route but rather the
speeding vehicles.
Mrs. Bue11 stated she felt it would be nice to still have the
option of going down Montgomery Avenue if the traffic is really
heavy.
Forrest Bi~s, Montgomery Avenue resident, told about.his truck
being hit four times, then was stolen. His new truck was parked on
Montgomery for two weeks when his window was broken and someone
tried to steal it again. There is a lot of traffic, the street is
narrow, and there are a lot of speeders. He looked at the plans
for the new Safeway store and saw that there would be no entrance
to Safeway off of Montgomery and questioned how long will that
last? He fully supports closing Montgomery, and hoped the City
Council did not change their mind.
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Mr. Neville again stated his support of this proposal based on the
Evergreen Campus Plan.
Mr. Overson stated at the previous Council meeting he voted against
the proposal on the basis that if it didn't pass Council would
send it back to staff for further study. He now is strongly
leaning toward supporting the requested action and understands by
doing that it will force staff to direct their attention to other
areas experiencing similar traffic problems. He believes street
planning in the City will take a big jump in priority once this
issue is approved~
Mr. Colvin stated he believes safety of the citizens within
neighborhoods should have priority over any other concerns.
Mr. Farr stated inn the past this Council and past administrations
have been publicly chastised for being short sighted and he viewed
closing Montgomery avenue was an extremely short sighted answer to
a couple of problems that are real to the residents in that area.
It is his understanding that speeding and hitting other people's
vehicles is illegal and the solution to those issues is not closing
off a street. He supported other methods of traffic
control...more enforcement and signage with closing off a street as
a "last resort" action.
Mr. Winters stated his continued support of this request based on
safety. He was also aware that the contractor for the Safeway
construction project was in attendance at the previous hearing and
assumed he was representing Safeway's interest.
Mr. Law stated his position of support of this proposal and the
importance for the City to take actions to stop speeders on
residential streets. He hoped enhanced enforcement would become a
priority for the Patrol Officers so that they could catch the
speeders.
Mr. Dawkins stated his support of the proposal considering there is
no buffer between a commercial area and residential area.
President Huff-Menees stated her continued support of this proposal
based on safety and quality of living in neighborhoods. She also
believes the issues addressed in the Campus Evergreen Plan are just
as important today as they were when written. She was a regular
shopper at the Callow Avenue Safeway store and very familiar with
traffic in that area. She does not believe approving this
proposal would be taking traffic from one area at the expense of
another neighborhood. It is very clear that traffic on other
streets, such as Rainier, also needs to be addressed and may not
require street closures.
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M/S/C(Neville/Winters) to pass Ordinance No. 4478 on second reading
closing a portion of Montgomery Street between 9th Street and llth
Street.
Vote on motion: In Favor: Colvin, Winters, Overson, Neville, Law,
Dawkins, Huff-Huff Menees
Opposed: Farr
Motion carried.
8A - ORDINANCE (FIRST READING) AMENDING POSITIONS SUBJECT TO
COUNCIL CONFIRMATION, #AB94-171
This ordinance corrects references to positions subject to City
Council confirmation. Municipal Code Section 2.49.010 is amended
to strike some positions which have been removed with the recent
Department of Public Works and Utilities reorganization. In
addition, the Civil Service Officer has been added since this was
included within the Personnel Director's job when the ordinance was
first written; and the Treasurer has been added since confirmation
is required by Charter. The Planning Director, Human Resources
Manager, Director of Parks & Recreation, and Director of Public
Works & Utilities replace positions which have been retitled.
Sections 2.49,020 and .030 replace the title of Personnel Director
with Human Resources Manager.
Public comment - none.
M/S/C/U(Overson/Farr) to approve ordinance on first reading,
amending those positions regarded as administrative heads for the
purpose of Council confirmation; and amending Chapter 2.49 of the
Bremerton Municipal Code.
9A - RE8OLUTION NO. 2477, CHANGES IN LOANAPPROVAL REQUIREMENTS FOR
OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAMS, #AB94-172
Request that City Council adopt resolution which 'restructures
present owner-occupied C.D.B.G. rehab program to provide zero-
interest deferred loans to very low-income (below 50% Area Median
Income) homeowners and 3% principal-deferred loans to low-income
(below 80% Area Median Income) homeowners.
This is due to present terms excluding too many applicants; sizable
backlog of unspent funds; and no appreciable improvement in
appearance of housing stock.
Pam Root, Project Coordinator, urged Council's approval of this
proposal due to the need to improve the program. The program is
funded by Community Block Grant funds and has accumulated a
sizeable backlog of funds due to grant funds and program income.
Currently, there is in excess of one half million dollars in the
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fund and the City needs to spend those funds faster than what is
being spent. If the program is changed, as outlined in the
resolution, there is a good chance of speeding up the process. The
new program would offer deferred loans that are based on the value
of the home rather than the ability of the homeowners to take on
new debt. The loans would be deferred as long as the property is
owned and occupied by the original borrower. She provided Council
with handouts describing the program and new application forms as
well as a sample of client profiles.
Mr. Neville asked that the income limits eligible for this program
be read into the record. Ms. Root stated zero interest deferred
loans would be available to households with a gross annual income
of does not exceed 50% of the area median income. Three percent
loans would be available to households whose gross annual income
does not exceed 80% of the area annual median income. Family size
and maximum incomes are as follows: i - $22,450; 2 - $25,650; 3 -
$28,850; 4 - $32,100; 5 - $34,650; 6 - $37,200; 7 - $39,800; 8 -
$42,350. MS. ROOt pointed out' the annual incomes are adjusted
annually by HUD.
Mr. Farr stated Council had been previously briefed on this
program, which he believes is excellent, and regretted the Council
meeting had run so late in the evening that some of the television
viewing audience may have dropped off. He wanted to see this
programs get the maximum exposure because it is an excellent
opportunity for'many people to take advantage of a program where
they can only win.
Mr. Winters suggested having the Rehab Program featured on Inside
Bremerton as well as coverage in The Sun. Ms. Root noted she
appeared on Inside Bremerton approximately six months ago.
Mr. Dawkins stated he supported the recommended changes to the
program and was sorry to see such a backlog of unspent funds when
it is such a great program.
President Huff-Menees stated when the need is so great in this area
it is painful to see that we have monies available that are not
being utilized. She feels the changes to the program are badly
needed and supports the proposal as presented.
Mr. Colvln invited Ms. Root to come to the next City Council
meeting and speak about the changes to the program during Public
Recognition.
Mr. Law questioned if Ms. Root could identify enough prospects for
this program to utilize the funding available? Ms. Root stated she
did not have any way to scientifically predict who will use the
program. However, the people who will still be squeezed out are
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those who have only owned their homes for a year or so and have
little or no equity because there is still the constraint of an 80%
loan to value ratio. People disqualified on the basis of debt to
income ratio with less than perfect credit form the majority of
people who are denied loans. Her hope is to quadruple the number
of loans currently being made. She would like to do one per week
instead of less than one per month. Mr. Law asked if the City will
need more labor support in the department to handle loan
applications. Ms. Root stated she didn't feel there would be a
need at least for the first six months. Much of her time is spent
dealing with banks and looking up obscure credit references and if
the City could do the Title searches and underwriting to simplify
the process, then she could spend her time doing what she does best
which is construction inspections and work write ups. If the
program takes off and the volume increases, then it is possible
additional staff will be needed. She has applied for the new round
of grant funding for additional staff funding to use where they see
the need.
Mayor Lynn Horton stated she has spoken to many people about the
proposed change in the City's Rehab Program and across the board it
has been greeted with enthusiasm. She has not talked with anyone
who felt it was not an appropriate step to take or that it was
unworkable.
M/S/C/U(Overson/Farr) to approve Resolution No. 2477, change in
approval standards for Owner-occupied Rehab Loan Program.
With no further business meeting adjourned at 9:56 P.M..
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