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CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
DECEMBER 14, 1994
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The regular meeting'of the City Council of the City of Bremerton
was called to order in the City Council Chambers, 239 4th Street,
Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, December 14, 1994, at 5:30 P.M.,
with Council President Sherril Huff-Menees presiding. Council
members present were Morrie Dawkins, John Law, David Farr, A1
Colvin, Carlos Montgomery, Lon Overson, and Richard Neville.
Councilman Bob Winters was absent. Also present were Assistant
City Attorney Leila Mills and City Clerk Kathleen McCluskey.
The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council
President Huff-Menees and Invocation given by Pastor Sam Rachal of
Mt. Zion Missionary Baptist Church.
CONSENT AGENDA
A. Minutes of Meeting - November 30, 1994
#AB94-260
M/S/C/U(Colvin/Dawkins) to approve the Consent Agenda as presented.
CLAIMS/CHECK REGISTERS
Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as required
by RCW 42.24.080, and those expense reimbursement claims certified
as required by RCW 42.24,090, have been recorded on a listing that
had been made available to the Council.
M/S/C/U(Colvin/Dawkins) on December 14, 1994, the Council does
approve for payment those vouchers included and further described
as follows: 180652, 180654 through 180673 in the total amount of
$73,059.99.
INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION
Presentation by Puget Sound Water Quality Authority and Department
of Ecology Representatives on the Direction of Stormwater
Management
Eddy Chu, Director of Public Works and Utilities Department,
introduced Vallana Piciolo, Program Manager for Puget Sound Water
Quality Authority, and John Glen, Water Quality Manager for the
Department Of Ecology. The City invited representatives from these
two agencies to give insight into what the City is embarking upon
as it relates to the Stormwater Management Program.
Mayor Lynn Hotton introduced Representative elect Lois McMahan, who
represents the 26th District, and Washington State Senator Betti
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Sheldon. She felt it was important that State representatives hear
first hand the kinds of things being mandated by the State and the
affect it has upon municipal governments and the residents within
those areas.
Vallana Piciolo, PrOgram Manager for Puget Sound Water Quality
Authority, stated the State acknowledges the hard work and expense
the City has already put out to address environmental issues, such
as the wastewater treatment plant and separation of stormwater and
sewers. Ms. Piciolo provided a slide presentation showing the
important work the City of Bremerton has done to weave it into the
bigger picture of Puget Sound and why such action is necessary.
The following facts were presented: The Puget Sound Estuary
stretches from the Canadian Border down to Thurston County. There
are 12 Counties stretching from the Olympic Mountains to the
Cascade Mountains and within that area there are approximately
16,000 sq. miles of land surface area and about 10,000 miles of
rivers and streams. All activity on the land washes into Puget
Sound, which has been part of the problem. There is very unique
wildlife in Puget Sound, such as Orcas and eagles. Puget Sound
Basin has expanded tremendously in the last 10-20 years
Between 1980 and 1990 the population increased 23% just in the 12-
County area of Puget Sound. The State projections are another 34%
increase in population to some 4.4 million people in the Puget
Sound Basin. With all of the new people coming into the area, it
means more homes, factories, businesses and vehicles. All of these
entities contribute to pollution. Vehicle exhaust settles
particles and toxic chemicals on roadways that wash into the
streams and through storm drains into Puget Sound. This data has
been documented through studies. With more people there will be
more sewage treatment plants and current plants will have to be
upgraded. In the rural areas there will be more land 'conversion,
more farms and other disturbing activity that all wash pollutants
into the Sound. The good news is that the Puget Sound Central
Basin is in pretty good shape in terms of water quality, but our
urbanizing bays and sediments are quite contaminated and they are
finding that 9 of the Puget Sound salmon species have gone extinct
and another 43 are threatened or endangered. Fifty percent of all
wetlands in the State have been filled. Wetlands are the natural
filtering system to hold excess stormwater, cleanse it and hold
back flood waters allowing it to seep .slowly through the ground.
However, when the wetlands are filled or polluted, they can not
provide that function. About two thirds of the commercially
valuable species, shellfish and finfish particularly, in Puget
Sound basins spend part of their life in wetlands. Shellfish
closures - about 40% of the shellfish beds in the Sound, both
commercial and recreation, have been closed, however, there have
been some recent upgrades that has been a bright spot through hard
work of some local governments, citizens, tribes and businesses.
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The cause of shellfish restrictions is not sewage treatment plants
like most people think, but failing on-site septic systems, animal
waste, farm animals and hobby farm animals, and stormwater runoff.
The other part of the Puget Sound pollution story has to do with
just the shape of t~e basin and not human cause. The circulation
of the Sound iS pretty complicated and it tends to trap both
nutrients and pollutants in a central deep basin and does not flush
out to the Straits and the Pacific Ocean like one would think. So,
what we pollute in Puget Sound stays there for a long time. One of
the slides showed the liver of a flounder fish that was brought out
of industrial bay in Eagle Harbor/Bainbridge Island. A healthy
flounder liver is a uniformed dark brown, however, the one shown
had white patches that were malignant tumors that are directly
related to toxic pollution that has been washed off in industrial
stormwater into the bay.
Another part of the Puget Sound story has to do with money...that
water dependent industry is worth a great deal to our State's
economy. The shellfish and finfish industry is about 175 million
dollars per year and is dependant on good water quality. In Puget
Sound shipping there is about 57 billion dollars worth of goods
that come through the Sound every year. If sediments become too
contaminated and we can't safely keep our navigational channel
cleared out then there is an impairment to that economic sector.
Recreation in Puget Sound is one of our Fortune 500 industries and
worth about 7 billion dollars per year, so that is on par with
Boeing type industries.
We are hearing a lot about stormwater and non-point runoff, and the
City of Bremerton has taken some important steps to try and address
some of those concerns. She emphasized it is not just a Puget
Sound issue, but also a National issue. Somewhere in the vicinity
of 43-75% of the nation's coastal estuaries and the nation's rivers
and streams are polluted not from sewage treatment plants and
industries, but actually from stormwater and non-point, so it gives
you the prospective that it is a big issue and that is partly why
there are laws in the Federal Clean Water Act to address stormwater
and non-point. Stormwater and non-point issues are a broad variety
of issues...construction sites, silty water, improper timber
practices can cause some flooding and siltation. Our rural
neighbors are part of the stormwater and non-point runoff
issues...failing septic system, farm animal waste if it is given
direct access to the stream, and farming if it is done with too
many fertilizers.
A slide was shown showing sample bottles of stormwater taken by the
Department Of Transportation off Hwy. #405. It was noted that one
did not have to be a scientist to conclude that the sampled
stormwater did not meet State standards. The pollutants that are
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evident are of quite a variety...stormwater sediments, oil and
grease, heavy metals, other toxins and disease causing pathogens.
Approximately 1.5 trillion gallons of untreated stormwater goes
into Puget Sound e~ch year and it carries with it about 1.5
million tons of sediment, a good portion of which is from land
disturbing activities. If you add toxins to that equation, it adds
up to about 4,800 tons of toxins every year just from stormwater
going into Puget Sound.
Of the 120 or so local governments in the Puget Sound basin, 101 of
them have at least stated their stormwater control practices, 64
have passed Stormwater Utilities that provide for stable funding to
support these fixes.
Where are we heading with stormwater and CSO controls?An important
factor is the Federal Clean Water Act, which in response to
concerns of the City of Bremerton and many other local governments
probably will be revisiting how strict should the Federal Water
Quality Standards be for stormwater. Another issue is the Puget
Sound Authority and the Department Of Ecology and many of the State
National Resource Agencies are carefully looking at watershed
coordination issues and working with the Governor's new Watershed
Coordinating Council to address many of the concerns about
regulations that are not coordinated and may be causing more
expense. The City of Bremerton has made some important progress on
CSO's, sewage treatment plant and stormwater issues.
John Glen commented on the many changes and upgrades the City has
done to address water quality concerns in the Bremerton area. More
recently, the City has engaged in tough negotiations and
discussions on developing the City's combined sewer overflow plan.
Vallanna has done a good job explaining the nature of stormwater
and why we are all concerned about it and why the communities
throughout the Puget Sound area are asked to address it more
comprehensively. The State recognizes that the plethora of
requirements that stem from Federal, State and local requirements
can be confusing and even overwhelming at times, but he believes
there are some rational schedules that can be worked out.
Mr. Overson stated the slides represented that the major
contributors to the problem are the failing septic systems and
agriculture, yet the ratepayers and taxpayers are being charged
very large costs to separate stormwater with a very modest
contributions to the solution. He felt that aspect was the most
uncoordinated element in the total problem. Ms. Piciolo stated Mr.
Overson raised an important point. The bar graph showed the impact
and closures related to one particular type of pollutant and that
is fecal form bacteria, which is largely caused by failing septic
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systems and farm animal waste and then stormwater. The other part
of the equation is that toxins and stormwater contains up to one
half of the toxic pollutant poundage that is coming into Puget
Sound.
Mr. Farr pointed hut the City passed on to its ratepayers
considerable cost to upgrade and separate stormwater and now that
the stormwater will be separated, what can we, as a community,
expect in regulations pertaining to treatment of that stormwater
prior to it being discharged? Ms. Piciolo stated the Department Of
Ecology has done an excellent job in developing a technical
cookbook for what is called Best Management Practices For
Stormwater, a good housekeeping source control and some lower tech
and medium tech treatment solutions. The research indicates there
is a good chance that if these lower cost Best Management Practices
are done assertively on the separated stormwater there is a good
chance to meeting the Federal and State water quality standards.
She noted there is quite a lot of technical debate on that point.
Mr. Glen stated there are two options: (1) collect all stormwater
and sanitary sewage and treat it at a plant; (2) or try to separate
it at use by Best Management Practices plans, good common sense and
adequate planning to deal with the stormwater issue. Virtually
every municipality, including Bremerton, concluded that it was most
cost effective to separate and implement the Best Management
Practices along with adequate planning rather than attempt to treat
both stormwater and sanitary waste at the same time in the same
facility. Mr. Farr asked if after the stormwater is separated and
if the quality standards are met, would the City be required to
treat the stormwater? Mr. Glen stated that is the approach they
are using and is being used throughout the country. Municipalities
in general cannot construct large stormwater treatment facilities
and there are major cost effective measures when considering that
possibility. Both the State and all consultants that have worked
on the issue of stormwater have concluded a careful look must be
given to planning and implement management practices to the
stormwater issue.
Mr. Colvln asked if there was a way to assess if major contributors
are paying their fair share of the costs to correct the problem?
Mr. Glen stated some of the major contributors, like fecal form are
not necessarily from stormwater, but must of it is from
agricultural practices and failing septic tanks. Many of those
facilities are not subject to routine regular assessments in the
form of taxes or rates, but correction of the systems can be very
costly. Agriculture practices that contribute to the problem have
to be changed and that entails different systems and management of
agriculture waste and in some instances installation of
improvements on the farms to control that discharge. Ms. Piciolo
stated hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent by local
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governments and have resulted in substantial water quality
improvements in certain jurisdictions. The other part of the cost
equation is to acknowledge the private sector, small and large
business and industry, who also have spent thousands of dollars
upgrading treatment systems trying to address stormwater issues.
The State is respectful of that investment and results are becoming
evident.
eordy Byrd questioned how can you tell the difference between
animal waste and human waste and stormwater? Ms. Piciolo explained
there are scientific procedures that help sort out source tracing
and then they analyze it to find the kind of pollution.
Phil Drouin stated he served on the City Council in 1983 when the
new secondary.treatment plant was built, which was a state-of-the-
art facility. The Washington Department of Ecology oversaw the
building of that plant by telling the City what could or could not
be done based on the best information available at that time,
however, we live in an every changing world. There are Federal
laws with no money for implementation that are enforced by the
State, with no money implementation, and now the environmentalist
are demanding the City to do things, but no funding source is
provided. For example, the City is required to chlorinate the
sewage sludge as it comes into the treatment plant, however, under
a new law the City is required to remove the chlorine prior to the'
water being discharged back into Sinclair Inlet. Now, Federal law
requires cites to separate stormwater from the sewage. The
environmentalist will require us to treat the stormwater and want
it as pure as the drinking water before it goes into Sinclair
Inlet. He suggested complaining to State Legislators and new
Congress members that we can't afford to have "pure" stormwater.
He questioned why do we continue to allow nitrates in lawn
fertilizer that continue to go back into the waters?
Richard Chrisinger stated his big concern has to do with the large
shopping centers that have large parking lots and the pollutants
that are deposited by vehicles while parked in those. lots. Most
parking lots do not have oil separators. Mr. Glen stated Mr.
Chrisinger is correct and it is a problem. Oils and anti-freeze
can get into the stormwater and cause real problems when they enter
the receiving water. The technical items that have been addressed
in the Puget Sound Plan, which they are recommending to local
jurisdictions when they install and/or retrofit old stormwater
systems, do address some on-site technologies to deal with those
oils and chemical discharges. Chiefly, they entail installation of
oil/water separators and use of stormwater detention ponds.
David Wingo asked if there are any funds from the Federal
government or Department Of Ecology to assist the cities and
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counties in implementing the warranted improvements? And, does the
City have a pamphlet or study showing the pollutants and/or
percentages of what is flowing into the Sound that they are
responsible for? Ms. Piciolo stated the Puget Sound Authority does
provide grant monies that they receive from the Environmental
Protection Agency that is then passed on to cities for stormwater
management. The Department Of Ecology has a number of grant
programs to help with pollution as does the State Department Of
Community Trade And Economic Development. That funding source is
not enough to meet all of the needs, but it is a fair amount of
money. In response to the question about a "study", Puget Sound
Authority does do an annual study to add up all the sources of
pollution in the Sound for all cities and counties and all the land
mass. That report does not break it down for just the City of
Bremerton, however, the City's Utility Department may have some
monitoring data that could provide that information. Mr. Wingo
expressed concern that the businesses in Bremerton will be greatly
impacted by the City's commercial stormwater rate.
Mayor Hotton stated the City is in the process of one combined
sewer overflow project that is costing the City approximately five
million dollars and the design work is underway on a second project
that will cost 10 million dollars. Let us assume for the moment
that they do not meet the State or Federal standards and Best
Management Practices do not work, what will the City be looking at
in real and specific terms and how much will it cost our community?
The City has already passed a 30% rate increase to the ratepayers
at the beginning of 1994, some for sewer treatment plant upgrades
brought about by a lawsuit, but the majority was for the combined
sewer overflow projects. If these don't work, what will we be
looking at? Mr. Glen stated he did not have a precise answer, but
he went back to an earlier comment that the correction of the
combined sewer overflows will go a major way toward correcting the
problem, and the implementation of the Best Management Practices
plan as outlined in the Puget Sound Stormwater Manual will take
care of the stormwater pollutant discharges, in their judgment. He
stated there was no WaY of knowing what the costs will be in 5-10
years down the road.
Mr. Law wanted to clarify what percentage of the costs were the
State'and Federal Government helping to pay to the municipalities,
for the studies, the engineering, and the construction? Mr. Glen
stated that the cost has gone down significantly. The State is
contributing 50% to the grant-eligible portion for some of the
combined sewer overflow corrections, but not all of the projects
will be grant-funded. There will be a gradual decline in all grant
contributions from both the State and Federal government. He also
wanted to make it clear that a significant amount of the Stormwater
corrections being contemplated now will have to be funded and
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implemented locally, and that grant assistance is only occasionally
available to implement specific elements. The development of the
Puget Sound Stormwater Manual was largely done with State funds,
and was intended to relieve local jurisdictions of many of the
engineering requirements that might have devolved upon them if it
did not exist. ~
President Huff-Menees wanted to know how the State determined which
projects will be grant-funded? Ms. Piciolo explained that there is
a ranking process for the different "'pots" of State monies. In
Olympia there is a lot of discussion on the need for coordinating
regulations and the need for coordinating the grant funding because
of the many different "pots" of money, and there are occasions when
certain funding needs to be protected. There is some progress on
the processing, however the bottom line is that the amount of
dollars available Federally, State, and locally is shrinking.
Also, there aren't as many State staff available to provide
technical assistance for someof the clean up projects. Due to all
of this, the State is trying to figure out how to accomplish the
most important things first, that will get the most results with
the decreasing dollars. The hope is that the regulatory reform
themes will help.
Mr. Montgomez7 asked about the degree of purity of the water being
discharged back into the Sound, and how the State requirements are
related to the Federal requirements? Mr. Glen stated they are the
same. The Federal requirement is that water quality standards and
beneficial uses not be adversely impaired, and the State standards
are the same. The State recognizes that much of the stormwater
that is discharged is not of drinking water quality, and they would
not expect that. Ms. Piciolo stated water quality standards are
very technical and very Confusing, and the Department of Ecology
was less stringent on some of the toxic water quality standards
compared to the Federal requirements, and her agency asked them to
upgrade them about three years ago so they are now on par with the
requirements of the Federal government. As far as "beneficial
uses", the State does differ in that it does require pretty high
uses such as drinking water and swimming water. She pointed out
she was the State's representative on the National Stormwater
Policy Team in Washington D.C. representing local governments from
the Puget Sound region and State agencies. They lobbied very hard
to go easy on the Federal permits for the medium and small cities
because at first the Clean Water Act was thinking of requiring
pretty demanding Federal permits for towns the size of Bremerton
and smaller. They felt the local governments were working very
hard and were ahead of a lot of other cities and towns across the
country, and thought it was a better way for the cities to figure
out how to do it at the local level with some State guidance. She
was happy to report that their message was heard, and her staff is
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now busy preparing a report card of progresses to show to Federal
EPA that this more flexible State-partnership is getting the job
done, and maybe not as much Federal control is needed. This is
where the discussion is at, at the.National level.
Mr. Chrisinger queseioned if once this was all in place, would it
take care of the Red Tide problem? Ms. Piclolo explained that she
was not sure because they still do not know for sure what causes
Red Tide. It is not know for sure if pollution is the cause, but
there are some indicators that it does. What they do know is that
if we don't continue to diligently follow the steps that we are now
trying to take, we are pretty sure there will not be salmon or
edible shellfish in the Puget Sound Basin. Mr. Chrisinger pointed
out the problem of Red Tide is a problem throughout the world.
Mr. Overson raised Mr. Drouin's concerns about the continued use of
nitrates in fertilizer and also what have other States done, such
as Colorado in their implementing ethanol in gasoline? Ms. Piciolo
stated she could offer a few comments in response to Mr. Overson's
questions, however, it was definitely out of her area of expertise.
The Authority did a study to look at how much atmospheric pollution
contributed to water pollution. A good portion of what they
learned was that automobiles contribute significantly. What was
surprising to her was that wood stove smoke from homes contributed
significantly to both air and water pollution in the Puget Sound
Basin. It is believed that the "Commute Trip Reduction" law, pass
two years ago, will help in reducing pollutants from automobiles.
On the compressed natural gas, it seems to be a city-by-city choice
for use in vehicles. Mr. Glen stated in some areas where there are
acute air pollution problems they have had to resort to some
unusual circumstances. It is true that we need to look much more
comprehensively and holistically at all the sources of pollution,
which is being done on the Federal level and to a certain extent on
the State Level. Their current Director is very impatient with
separate programs and agencies that don't talk to each other.
Gordy Byrd asked for one reason why he would consider having a
business in the State of Washington if everyone is going to
interfere with one another? Mr. Glen stated he is aware of that
kind of concern and his office hears such comments a lot over
increasing regulations. He emphasized such requirements are not
unique to the State of Washington, but are throughout the Country.
What Mr. Byrd is trying to get at is how can we make things more
sensible for businesses. Effort is underway to get technical
outreach through business associations to help businesses
understand and comply in a regulatory streamlined way.
Jack Lefcoski stated if we can compare our water on a scale of i -
10, ( drinking water is a "1") and (water in Sinclair Inlet is a
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"10"), could they give a wild guess on what existing regulations
could do to bring that "10" downward to a "4". After we install
all the good systems required, will we be able to achieve a "3" or
"4"? He referenced the fact that the City of Bremerton had a 30%
increase in water/sewer utility services in 1994, and he did not
want his grandchildren getting hit with another 30 percent increase
in 10-20 years, which will happen if regulations are not restricted
in some way. For your assignment and all of our Congress people,
he would like to see some legislation that grandfathers these
levels of acceptability. Mr. Glen stated he believed that was an
excellent point. Perhaps the sad fact is that the rules have
changed over the years and the cities have been obliged to make
additional investments to meet those new standards. And, the
question we all need to ask ourselves is what else is truly needed
and what are the cost implications?
Mr. Wingo stated not only are residents being hit in the City, but
at this time we are being hit in Kitsap County by the same
Department for one million dollars that this same group is going to
pay. He believed there needed to be a balance somewhere.
Mr. Chrisinuer stated years ago, when he was an Amway distributor,
may states had outlawed phosphates in dish washing compounds,
laundry soaps, etc.
This 'Concluded the "town meeting" portion of the City Council
meeting.
5A - ORDINANCE (FIRST READING) ESTABLISHING COMMERCIAL STORMWATER
RATES, #AB94-261
Stormwater rates for all City accounts were implemented in February
1994. Insufficient data at the time resulted in commercial
accounts being charged at the same rates as residential accounts
(i.e. $4.00 per account per month). At the same time of
implementation, commercial accounts were advised of future
increases when definitive data was available.
The recommendation before the City Council is for approval of new
stormwater rates for commercial accounts based on the number of
Impervious Surface Units (ISU), with one ISU equating to 2,500
square feet. The cost per ISU per Month is $4.00. Credit
opportunities for Detention/Retention and Water Quality are
available. Also, parcels owned or leased by a public school
district which provides activities which directly benefit the
stormwater management program will receive credit opportunities.
Eddy Chu,Director Of Public Works and Utilities, reminded Council
that the proposal ordinance and related issues have been discussed
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over previous weeks in Study Sessions. Since then, the issue has
also been brought to a "town meeting" and has been discussed with
the town customers. At this point, he is presenting the issues to
the Council for their consideration and approval. He emphasized
the proposed city commercial account rates for the stormwater
charge are in parallel with Kitsap County's rates, as well as the
time tables for implementation.
Rod Parr, owner of 12 acres in Bremerton, stated what he wanted to
bring before Council is the fact the auto dealers in Auto Center
Way have a water problem in front of their dealerships. Their
concern is that they are paying a substantial amount of taxes to be
'in the City of Bremerton, and nothing has happened along the years
to solve their water drainage problem. Their concern now is that
another tax is being implemented and nothing is still going to
happen to solve their water drainage problem. As been seen with
the sewer bills, once something is started it is like a big monster
it can't be stopped. His garbage bill for one of his places of
business runs $1,000 per month and his sewer bill runs about the
same. As auto dealers, they don't get police protection and must
to hire their own police protection, which costs them a substantial
amount. He questioned where is it going to stop? The auto dealers
are generating 28-30% of the taxes for Bremerton and they haven't
seen any of it returned in just repairing the water problem in
front of their businesses. Just as an example, if his business was
outside of the City he would save $100,000 in B&O taxes per year.
He likes being in Bremerton, however, he hoped that the City will
be mindful of what they are doing and how it impacts the businesses
so that it does not become a dis-incentive to maintain a business
in Bremerton.
Phil Drouin stated when the City .was presented a secondary
treatment plant for Bremerton in 1983 we were told we could build
a certain sized plant, it would be 10% over capacity to which
Department of Ecology would match 50% funding and that in order to
properly have the secondary treatment we had to plan on removing
the combined sewers and separate them. It was understood at the
time the sewer treatment plant was built that there would be a
stormwater program and it would financially impact the residents.
When that discussion was brought up before the Council in 1984, the
public was clambering that they were paying too much. Now, it is
10 years later and things have inflated. He understands the
problem the auto dealers, Bremerton School District and others like
St. Vincent DePaul will be facing in having to pay the stormwater
charges. In the case of St. Vincent DePaul, the charge will be
approximately $1,000 per year and that funding will come out of the
funds that are used to feed the hungry, shelter for the homeless
and utility payment assistance to the low income. This problem is
part of secondary sewer treatment and something the Federal
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government passed the law and the Department Of Ecology is
following up and the environmentalist are suing the City because we
aren't doing anything. He remembers when fully loaded Navy ships
came into Sinclair Inlet full loaded and emptied their sewage
holding tanks directly into the bay. He asked Council that if they
make an exception for public schools because they are going to
have educational classes, he felt it was only fair to give the same
exemption to the parochial schools. If the auto center area is to
be exempt, then other businesses should be exempt.' He was not sure
how churches were been addressed under this program.
JerrTSoriano stated he believes that everyone understands that the
proposed stormwater rates will exist and what the City Council
needs to understand is that Bremerton's rates need to be lower than
Kitsap County's rates. Everyone knows the City has more taxes (B&O
taxes) garbage rates, sewer rates than anyone else in the County.
Everyone knows that right now the County is going ahead with
Planning Commission hearings for changing the designation of
property out past Riddell Road and we are going to have more and
more of our commercial businesses going outside of the City and not
providing any taxes for the City. We have to be able to compete
with the County and Council needs to make sure that their costs are
to be less. The decision made on this issue will probably not
affect the downtown because it is hurt too bad already through a
50% vacancy rate. He emphasized the City must look at what is
reasonable and when he attended a public meeting on this issue it
was shown that $2.00 of the $4.00 went to Administrative costs.
One thing that was discussed was giving a "break" for a period of
time if something is to be done to provide on-site retention.
Owning property in the City of Bremerton, especially in the
downtown area, is a problem...we cannot get a break because they
have to build to the sidewalks and to the alleys. He cannot do
anything with his buildings to put anything under them to get any
credits. Right now they have a building that is only 3,000 sq.
ft., but they are paying for three different units at $4.00 per
month for stormwater charges. It is hard to understand how you can
set something up and still meet the requirements that you have to
meet, but still take into consideration we have to keep the big
businesses in this City. A positive way has to be found in getting
businesses to want to be in Bremerton, right now we don't have that
attitude. He doubted that levies would be passed for schools and
every time a new tax or charge is implemented it takes away from
some other good cause that needs that kind of additional funding.
David Wingo stated he is not a businessman, but does pay his share
'of taxes. He believes businesses should have some type of
reduction because in the long run that added cost will be passed
onto the consumer.
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Mr. Colvin asked the City Attorney if churches and State agencies
are exempt from this fee? Leila Mills, Assistant City Attorney,
stated no. Mr. Colvin asked if schools would be exempt? Ms. Mills
stated public schools would be exempt if they had certain programs
educating the children about these very issues of stormwater and
water quality issuas. Mr. Colvin asked about private schools
offering the same thing. Ms. Mills stated that according to the
current reading of the ordinance, they would not be exempt, and
would still have to pay.
Mr. Dawkins asked Mr. Chu about water retention, and what it would
cost for a 10-20 car parking lot if they put in a water retention
system. What type of break would they get for putting one in? Mr.
Chu. stated it would depend on the layout and the topography of the
lot, and what was on top right now, such as landscaping, would they
need a tank, etc. The engineering division could provide some
technical guidelines for anyone who desires it to help determine
their individual situation. Mr. Colvin felt their was a valid
concern regarding the issue of public schools being exempt, but not
private schools, and felt they should be treated the same. Also,
the City needs to compete with the County so as not to run any more
businesses out of the City. He feels the Council should give more
consideration to this issue.
Mr. Overson wanted to put into perspective the fact that the auto
dealer mentioned he is paying $100,000 is B & 0 taxes, but they are
a multi-million dollar per year business, and after the 200 plus
ISU's they'll be paying for, will add a $10,000 additional cost to
them which adds up to about less than $40 additional per
automobile. He felt the bigger concern was the water problem that
the auto dealer have had because he thought that problem had been
resolved. Mr. Chu stated they have significantly improved the
area, but that the problem has not been solved. It is a top
priority for 1995to have at least a design completed to improve
that area. Mr. Overson asked is it a stormwater problem?
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Mr Chu explained that problem has been there for awhile, but that
is basic elements and principles of it as you take away the
stormwater to percolate down into the ground and let it run down
the surface eventually when the big rain hits it will rush in to
a low spot and the flooding will begin. Mr. Overson stated because
the City is being mandated to provide stormwater management, he
believes a multi-million dollarbusiness would be capable of paying
the stormwater charge. On the business evolution, all business
cannot go out into the County and ultimately growth management has
to come in to stop the County from turning that place into a
commercial chaos like it is today. In reference to the School's
concern, it is his understanding that Mr. Chu, with a stroke of a
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pen, can say a school will not pay for the proposed stormwater
charge? Mr. Chu stated since the discussion on this issue is
comparing the City and County, he wanted everyone to be aware that
10 out of 10 categories relating to the stormwater management
program, the City beat the County. The two programs do have
different formulas for some categories. In reference to the School
District issue, there is one School District within the City that
is comprised of 15.accounts. Utility staff members did meet with
representatives from the Bremerton School District and the
exemption element was patterned after Kitsap County for their
school districts as well as King County and their 11 School
Districts program. The school exemption element only applies to
public schools due to their tax base and limited budget. In turn,
School Districts will have to provide and show they have a very
aggressive program for .stormwater or environmental subjects. The
effort they would have to put forth would have to be equal or
exceed the stormwater fee assessed to them. Mr. Overson stated for
clarification that if Mr. Chu considers something the schools are
doing is worth as much as what it would cost them in a stormwater
fee, then their obligation to pay will be erased. Yet, lets take.
this a step further in that the State is mandating the City to
provide stormwater management and schools are largely funded by the
State, why don't the schools go to the State and say "you forced
the mandate on the City therefore the State should provide the
funding to cover that specific cost". What Mr. Chu is proposing is
that the cost go back to the homeowners and business people, who
are at least in a position to afford it. He felt such action was
incorrect. Mr. Chu emphasized it is up to the City Council to
decide if they wish to provide this exemption. Staff did research
what neighboring Kitsap County and other cities have done in
charging schools and the City of Bremerton was trying to be
consistent with them.
Mr. Montgomerv stated if the exemption element is approved, the
City of Bremerton would be telling the schools what subjects to
teach and he did not feel that was in the City's purview. He does
not agree with exempting schools from the stormwater charge. Mr.
Chu stated he would not be the one approving the curriculum,
however, what he proposes was patterned after King County, who has
had several years of experience in dealing with exemption of
schools and the kinds of classes being taught relating-to
stormwater management and environmental issues. If the exemption
is approved, the schools would submit a very comprehensive program
that outlines the type of education programs they would provide.
Mr. Montgome~][ stated then what Mr. Chu is saying is that Seattle
can prove in dollars and cents that this program is paying off.
Mr. Chu explained actually there' is an accounting that provides
details, which he can provide to the Council. They have proven
that the schools have a very aggressive and specialized program,
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such as adopt-a-stream, etc., that teaches the children to be
future environmental custodians. By doing so, they are accounting
for school hours and identifying expenses incurred to clearly
identify their contribution towards the stormwater charges that
would normally be imposed. Mr. Montgomery asked that he be
provided with that information.
Mr. Colvin asked he understood correctly that Mr. Chu is proposing
that the School District be exempt from the stormwater charge? Mr.
Chu stated that was correct. Mayor Hotton stated the City will
give the option to the schools, assuming that the Council does not
want to entirely exempt schools, and it will be up to the school to
either pay the stormwater rate or they can do what equates for them
to be Best Management Practices and that is teaching their students
about environmental issues that affect us and will affect them as
adults. There has already been discussion on exempting public
school, but not parochial schools and whether or not pre-schools or
day cares are allowed some kind of exemption. It is up to the City
Council 'to made a decision on that point based on their purview as
the custodians of each of the Legislative Districts. The City
would not be mandating curriculum that the 'schools must
teach .... that will be an option. Mr. Montgomery asked if there
were any others exempted from the stormwater charge? Mr. Neville
stated as he understands the proposal, schools are not exempt, but
they have the choice of teaching specific curriculum and paying a
flat $4.00 rate like a resident. The only exemptions he sees is
all parcels of property that are undeveloped and all public right-
of-way. Mr. Colvin stated he did not feel there should be a
difference between public schools and parochial schools. Mayor
Hotton stated that discussion was held and it came to "where do you
draw the line". In reference to the comment that Mr. Chu could
change something in the ordinance with a "stroke of a pen", that is
incorrect, Mr. Chu must follow the ordinance. If the intent of the
Council is to allow the schools to substitute curriculum instead of
paying the stormwater rate, guidelines will be drafted and in order
to get that exemption, which Mr. Chu will approve, they have to
conform to that requirement. Mr. Colvin called Mr. Parr to the
podium. Mr. Parr stated B&O Tax has nothing to do with
profitability, it has to do with gross sales. A candy bar costs a
lot less than an automobile... the average new vehicles cost is
$20,800. He pointed out national figures show new car dealers lose
money selling new cars because of the expenses. He felt Council
was getting the wrong attitude from what he stated earlier. The
car dealers are not saying they don't want to pay, but what they
are saying is that once those taxes/rates start they ramp up
quickly and there is no control over them. The car dealers have
been paying taxes for years, but the water problems they experience
in their location still exists and has not been correct. He
questioned with the new tax will the water problem go away? He
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pointed out that of a $4.00 charge $2.00 goes toward Administrative
costs. They are concerned about the money being wasted. He
emphasized B&O Tax is not a good example of what is happening.
Mr. Chu stated he wanted to clarify Mr. Parr's comment that $2.00
of the $4.00 charge would be for Administration...that is not
correct. Right'now'the program does not have one staff assigned
for administration over the program. The current Utility staff
level is being used to administer the program. What Mr. Parr
alluded to about the $2.00 was basically for operation and
maintenance of the current infrastructures, and that would also
include the billing costs.
Mr. Neville raised a point on the "rate adjustment... the quality
of the improvements that meet all system development and
construction standards". He questioned if the "standards" are
strictly City standards or County/National standards? Mr. Chu
stated the standards are being developed as we speak. The City is
adopting the State's Chemical Manual and further developing what
the local systems will need. Mr. Neville questioned when would
these standards be finished? Mr. Chu stated new development
already has to comply with such standards, which are updated
through a continuous process.
Mr. Law noted Mr. Chu stated he emulated the King County Stormwater
Regulations and asked if they are the same as what Bremerton is
proposing for automobile dealers? Mr. Chu stated for clarification
that he just borrowed King County's Education Program and the
charge for automobile dealers came out of discussion with staff and
the consultants in developing the plan. What is proposed for
automobile dealers is fairly common to the Puget Sound area. Mr.
Law stated something that bothers owners of older buildings or
blacktop areas is that they are going to have to go into either
major remodeling to make a change or having to pay $2.00 more per
unit. He asked if there is anything being done to softening that
impact or working with the businesses? Mr. Chu stated the City
does sympathize with the rate impact, therefore heavy consideration
is given during the transition period. The City is proposing to
allow a 3-year period to implement some of the Best Management
Practices and that businesses need to look at all options and their
profitability and what is feasible to be done on a particular site.
The City has devised a step to implement this program by giving
every commercial account with 2 Impervious Surface Units and up a
50% credit and by giving that credit the City is asking them or
trusting them that they will be doing something in return, which is
the water quantity retention as well as water quality treatment.
Assuming that they do so and submit plans as verification by the
October 1995 date, they will then be given their credit beyond that
time. Once the plans are submitted showing they propose to do
something in the way of stormwater management, then the City will
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extend the credit two additional years allowing them time to
finance and implement that program. If nothing is implemented by
1997 and they choose not to pursue a retention option, then the
credit will be denied and they will then pay the full stormwater
rate. He believes ~his will ease into the program and allow the
businesses time'to absorb the impact of the Stormwater Management
Program.
Mr. Farr stated one of the comments made during a Council Study
Session on this issue was that there wasn't much of a reaction from
the business owners over the proposed commercial stormwater rates.
He regrets not having some of those business owners at a study
session to hear their reactions to what was proposed. He asked Mr.
Chu. to again explain the cost to a dealership or large surface area
business in Bremerton as opposed to what it would be in the County.
Mr. Chu stated they did not do a specific auto dealership
comparison, but what he does have is the County's proposed rates in
the commercial uses. The County's rate is $45.00 per Impervious
Surface Unit (ISU) (County's ISU is 4,200 sq. ft.). Based on that,
the County's rate is $4,152 and the City's rate would be $3,700.
He wanted to impress upon Council that the City and County are not
always "across the board" when doing comparisons due to the
variances in formulas. And, the City's dollar amount included the
credit given to businesses. Mr. Farr brought up the point that the
residents of Bremerton have been paying their stormwater rate since
February of 1994, however, the commercial rates are not being
assessed retroactive rates from that same start date. Mr. Chu
reported a survey is being done by the Association Of Washington
Cities on stormwater rates and the City of Bremerton is within the
same range as every other city included in that study. Mr. Farr
asked what will be the scenario for adjustment to these rates - do
we go out and hire another consultant to look at rates or is it
based on needs of the Utility? Mr. Chu stated right now the City's
consultant are Engineering Services Inc., who are completing a 8-
year Capital Improvement Program on the Stormwater Program. So far
18 drainage basins have been identified as well as the problem area
within each of those basins. Based on that information, a rough
estimate will be established as to how much it would cost to
correct those problems and how to finance those projects. It is
proposed that some of the capital improvement projects would have
to be funded through bonds.
Mr. Dawkins questioned if a commercial lot could tie into the
stormwater separation project that is currently being constructed
on Park Avenue? Mr. Chu stated the City does have the dedicated
storm system and a sanitary sewer system and commercial lots would
be allowed to hook up to the stormwater system. To do such a hook
up, it would require engineering plans approved by the City. Storm
drainage is for service runoff, roof drain connections and
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everything that has to do with runoff of rainwater.
Mayor Hotton stated this proposal comes to Council based on
technical expertise, which is the Administration's function. After
sitting on the City Council for six years, she believes Council's
position needs to be to evaluate all of the things they have heard
during the public hearing on the proposed ordinance and to make
modifications as they see fit based. on the technical expertise that
the Administration has provided. Personally, she does not like any
of the rates. The people from Ecology andPuget Clean Water stated
the City is trying to interject common sense and work together with
other counter parts, however, the reality is, from the City's
level, that is "bunk". Until the State gets their act squared away
and they figure out comprehensively where it needs to go, she will
oppose this kind of legislation, but she did not see, at this time,
that the City had a choice. Administratively, she and her staff
did the best job possible to bring Council the technical data in
order that they could make the hard decision.
Mr. Overson stated Mr. Parr commented relating an approximate 50%
administrative cost. He is trying to understandMr. Chu's response
and relating that to the City's budget. The 1994 budget indicates
25% of the funding went to personnel and somewhere between 25-50%
of the funding went toward Administration. The 1995 budget shows
approximately 33% going to personnel and somewhere between 30-60%
going toward Administrative. He asked Mr. Chu if he endorsed that
information or is his perspective incorrect? Mr. Chu stated from
his recollection the current Stormwater Program only allotted for
3 1/2 full time employees and they all reside in the Stormwater
Division (Service Specialist, Service Specialist Senior and
Foreman). Some of the other supported full time assistance is
coming from co-compliance, engineering supports, billings and
customer services, etc. Currently, there is no additional staff to
administer the stormwater program.' Mr. Overson stated by
comparison we are actually accumulating capital funds at greater
than 50% of the income. Mr. Chu stated as Mr. Overson recalled
there is a big heavy Capital Improvement line item and in 1994 we
have $100,000 earmarked for the CSO project. As alluded earlier,
the CSO project has been a very heavily financed project and
currently 90% of that funding comes from the Wastewater Fund. If
money is no object,there should be a 50-50 split between Wastewater
and Stormwater. Because the stormwater program is in the infant
stage, the 1994 stormwater funding is only $440,000. Based on
that, there is no way to make a dent in a CSO project, so in 1995
$150,000 is being earmarked toward the CSO project. Mr. Overson
pointed out Mr. Chu has been wrestling with this proposal for
months and he appreciates the time and effort put into its
development. He felt it was a good presentation based on what Mr.
Chu had to work with even-though he disagrees with the way he
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proposed charging the public schools. Mr. Overson asked Mr.
Lefcoski to comment if he had something to contribute. Jack
Lefcoski suggested the owners of "car town" form their own L.I.D.
and put in their own private stormwater separation system. He
opposes the classroom education program and feels it is "pie in the
sky". He believes' children should realize every household is
paying $4.00 per month and parents should be instructing their own
children on water conservation. Two things important to him are
education and welfare. If the City is going to give an exemption
it should be given to the Salvation Army, all of the goodwills, all
of the people catering to the underprivileged, foodbank
organizations, etc.
Mr. Law asked the total ISU's for the Bremerton School District?
Mr. Chu stated there are 15 accounts for the Bremerton School
District covering 13 different schools and administration centers.
The total number of ISU's under the School District is 798, and
with the credit, they will be paying $19,152.00 annually. If the
education program is implemented, the School District would still
pay $720.00 annually. The difference in impact would be
$18,432.00. Mr. Law asked what incentive would the School
District have to implement their program to take advantage of on-
site detention? Mr. Chu stated the incentive would be "cost".
Some of the newer schools already have on-site detention systems in
place. Mr. Law pointed out if the School District chose the
education program, there would be no incentive. Mr. Chu stated
bear in mind the education program he has outlined is very
comprehensive, such a hydrological cycle, wetlands, streams, rivers
and ecological systems, etc. It was his feeling that the school
should have such programs anyway. Mr. Law stated what the City is
asking a commercial business to do is to put in a detention site
for the quantity control. He asked what incentive will the School
District have to put that in if they have already been exempted
from paying the fee? Mr. Chu re-emphasized it is the School
District's choice as is it the businesses' choice whether or not
they install an on-site collection system or pay the full fare.
Instead of the School District paying the full fare, they can
choose to implement an educational program and receive credit for
taking such action. President Huff-Menees stated she is aware the
Jr. High and High School are already offering such environmental
studies. Mr. Chu stated he had reviewed the School District's
current program and when discussing this option with the principals
of the elementary schools they indicated their current programs
would have to be enhanced in order to justify the credit.
Mr. Farr stated to him the exemption of the School District for the
minimal amount of money is more trouble than it is worth and it
would open up Council to criticism for singling out a specific
group. He felt there would be additional cost to the City in
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trying to monitor what is being taught. He is not in favor of any
exemptions. Mr. Ohu stated in either case utilizing the credit
toward the education program or if the decision is made to do an
on-site detention system, the City would need to be involved
because of the code compliance and will be an on going program and
need inspections on an annual basis.
Mr. Law stated he agreed with Mr. Farr and felt the City would be
opening the door up enough that private schools would want the same
exemption. He acknowledged that Mr. Chu had studied this proposal
long and hard and was trying to be fair and was certain the School
District officials are concerned about finding the $19,000. But,
in 'the long run he felt it was more fair to everyone by not making
any. exception.
Mr. Colvln commended Mr. Chu for his diligence in putting together
this proposal, however, he felt public schools and private schools
should be treated the same if an exemption is to be given. Mr. Chu
emphasized that he could not take all the credit...his staff has
put much work into this proposal. If it would be helpful to
Council, he would do a more indepth look into the school program
and see what other School Districts in the Puget Sound region are
doing in the area of environmental educationl
Mr. Farr asked if the suggestion made by Mr. Lefcoski that the auto
dealers form a L.I.D. is a possibility should' they choose to
participate in such a program? Mr. Chu stated any neighborhood,
either the downtown business district or auto dealers, could form
a L.I.D. and look at their local problem comprehensively, then come
to the City to form a special district. The City would help guide
them through that process and help them develop their particular
program. Mr. Law asked if that wouldn't affect the overall
planning? Mr. Chu stated when the Comprehensive Plan is developed,
it is not like sanitary sewer or water. It is much more difficult
to calculate how much stormwater runoff will be generated in a
particular area and such calculations are only rough estimates with
some safety factors built in to accommodate the worst case
scenario.
Mr. Colvin asked if he understood correctly that untreated
stormwater would enter the Sound? Mr. Chu stated currently the
Best Management Practices asks for source control (metered out so
it will reduce flooding downstream) and quality control by taking
care of the sediments (sand/gravel/leaves/oils/grease/pesticides),
which could be considered partial treatment.
M/S/C(Overson/Farr) that the City Council approve the commercial
stormwater rates with the exemption -for the Bremerton School
District (i.e. $4.00/ISU/Month) with the credit opportunities
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identified above).
M/S/C(Law/Farr) am amendment to the motion that we do not make an
exception for the School District.
Vote on Amendment: ~In Favor: Farr, Law, Montgomery, Colvin,
Huff-Menees
Opposed:
Dawkins, Overson, Neville
Motion Carried.
Vote on main motion as amended: In Favor: Law, Montgomery, Dawkins,
Overson, Neville, Farr,
Huff-Menees
Opposed: Colvin
Motion carried.
6A - ORDINANCE NO. 4494 (SECOND READING) AMENDING THE 1994 BUDGET.
#AB94-256
Public comment - none.
M/S/C/U(Neville/Montgomery) to pass Ordinance No. 4494, on second
reading, amending Ordinance No. 4489 relating tothe budget of the
City of Bremerton for Fiscal Year 1994.
6B - ORDINANCE
NO. 4495 (SECOND READING) APPROVING THE 1995 BUDGET, #AB94-257
Public comment - none.
A motion was made by Mr. Dawkins and'seconded by Mr. Farr to move
$40,000 from the Roosevelt Field Capital Asset Fund to.be applied
to the American Legion Field construction project for the lighting
of the field. Discussion on that motion resulted in the
recommendation that the Mayor present a budget adjustment, at a
later date, allocating funding from the Roosevelt Field Capital
Asset fund to the American Legion Field Construction Project. Mr.
Dawkins and Mr. Farr withdraw their motion and second.
M/S/C/U(Colvin/Montgomery) to pass Ordinance No. 4495, on second
reading, approving and adopting the financial budget for the
several funds of the City of Bremerton for the fiscal year 1995,
and appropriating the amounts set forth in each budget to each fund
in accordance with RCW 35.33.075.
7A - AMENDMENT TO TONKIN/HOYNE, INC. CONTRACT TO PROVIDE
PLANNING/ANALYSIS OF WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, #AB94-262
The City of Bremerton has an existing contract with Tonkin/Hoyne,
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Inc. for planning, financial services for the City-owned parcel on
the waterfront. This amendment to the contract expands their scope
of services to include a District Redevelopment Plan, design
guidelines, and return on investment analysis for the project. It
also more specifically identifies work products necessary for the
City to preparean R}FP for project.
Phil Nachbar, Community Development Manager, provided a brief
history of the development of the City's waterfront property,
pointing out that Phase I was the development of the Overwater Park
and Phase II as it is now conceived is a mixed use development on
the currently City owned site, located between First and Second
Street/Washington Avenue to the waterfront (currently serving as a
parking lot). Presently, the City is working with Kitsap Transit
in coordinating a joint development project in which the City would
prepare an RFP with Kitsap Transit. The City's focus would be on
the City owned property and Kitsap Transit would be focusing on the
Ferry Terminal site adjacent to the subject site. The project is
a mixed use 'development that would include, if successful, a
residential component, office, retail, possibly two restaurants and
public market space, perhaps community space and other amenities
that would be attractive toferry users as well as the community.
In 1994 there was an OE Grant of $50,000 given to the City through
the Economic Development Council that was the funding source for
the Tonkin/Hoyne Contract. That contract, in general, provided
guidance to the City in how it may carry out a development and
provides specifics for site planning, the types and square footage
uses, financial feasibility analysis of the project, design
guidelines and how the City could participate financially in the
project to receive revenue as well as facilitate the project.
After reviewing the initial Scope Of Services, Mr. Nachbarfelt it
was not clear enough and did not provide the City with the kind of
specificity that was needed to go on to the development offering
stage, which is the next stage of the project. He emphasized there
is no change to cost of services and the items to be changed have
been negotiated within the existing budget. He cited the following
changes:
(1) the amendment adds in design of a Waterfront District
Redevelopment Plan, which considers the entire area
on the waterfront from 5th Street to 1st Street.
(2) It looks more closely at circulation of pedestrian access,
open space, a parking structure, which the City
contemplates participating in financially to construct
a set'of guidelines that would be used in a development
offering that would provide some guidance to a developer
to participate in that development.
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(3) Financially, the amendment adds more indepth analysis
of a parking structure, the design as well as the cost and
revenues associated with it, how a public entity could
participate, a Performance Statement, which would look
at the structuring of a project.
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(4) The additional item that would be added would be one month
in completion time to the contract having it end January
31, 1995.
(5)
Deletion - parking component, which is not felt to be
needed as the rest of the items and could be given up in'
exchange.
(6)
Project Management - since he joined the City three months
ago, he has taken on the role that the consultants would
have taken in coordinating, making presentations,
determining the City's concerns in the project.
Public comment - none.
Mr. Colvin commended Mr. Nachbar for the good job he is doing. He
asked what will be the end result of this contract once all the
planning is finished? Mr. Nachbar stated the end of result of this
particular contract will be a set of specific items that can be
included with our own work into a development offering RFP, which
will be the next stage of the project. What goes into an RFP will
include design guidelines, concepts that have been discussed for
the site, set of preferences the City would like to see happen on
the waterfront, but not dictating what should happen. Also, he
believes'the City will have a better understanding of the financial
packaging of the project itself. It is anticipated that there will
be the need for public financial participation in this project and
the consultants are helping to identify what those components might
be, how to finance them and the organizational structure for
carrying that out. Mr. Colvin asked if that went as far as
securing an investor for the project? Mr. Nachbar stated the
consultant contract does not really include securing an investor,
but it helps the City identify the feasibility and the way it can
be set up. Concurrent with the consultant study and thereafter, the
City will have to start seeking funds and identify sources for the
project.
Mr. Neville noted the original scope and services that were to be
performed had a termination date of December 31, 1994, and this new
contract amendment will terminate it at January 31, 1995. He asked
if there would be no problem meeting the new proposed termination
date? Mr. Nachbar stated that was correct. Mr. Neville stated it
was his understanding that everyone involved is working together
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and making great strides to have this plan come together. Mr.
Nachbar stated there is a lot of excitement and cooperation among
the individuals involved in this process. Mr. Neville noted it
appears there is no change to the Waterfront Market Place Business
Plan that identifies linkages with Kitsap County EDC Incubator
System. He questioned if that was still going to take place?
Nachbar stated yes. the ECD Incubator System will still be a
component of the project. He reminded Council that this project
was funded by the Office Of Economic Adjustment and part of their
concern is the defense oriented economy in Bremerton and providing
opportunities for laid off workers. We don't know if that will
necessarily help the waterfront specifically, but it remains as
part of the plan.
Mr. Colvin asked at completion will there will be a conceptual
drawing of a proposed project? Mr. Nachbar stated. yes, the
consultants. have provided several conceptual drawings, which are
well done and give a good idea of the development, circulation, and
provides a master plan for the entire area, with a focus on the
City owned site.
Mr. Neville noted that the contract references "Washington Street"
rather than "Washington Avenue" and questioned if that needed to be
corrected? Leila Mills, Assistant City Attorney, stated that
would not be a problem.
M/S/C/U(Dawkins/Colvin) to approve Amendment to Tonkin/Hoyne, Inc.
contract, and authorize the Mayor to sign and execute Amendment as
written.
With no further business meeting adjourned at 8:30 P.M..
KATHLEEN L. McCLUSKEY, 6~tTel~rk
City of Bremerton
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