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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/11/95TAPE #1325 UNAPPROVED DRAFT COUNCIL ;APPROVED NOV 1 1995 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OCTOBER 11, 1995 #0031 #0050 The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Bremerton was called to order in the City Council Chambers, 239 4th Street, Bremerton, Washington, Wednesday, October 11, 1995, at 5:30 P.M., with Council President Sherril Huff-Menees presiding. Council members present were Bob Winters, A1 Colvin, Morrie Dawkins, Carlos Montgomery, John Law, David Farr, Richard Neville, and Lon Overson. Also present were City Attorney Ian Sievers and City Clerk Kathy McCluskey. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Council President Huff-Menees and Invocation given by Reverend Pastor Webster of Westpark Christian Church. CONSENT AGENDA A. Minutes - September 20, 1995 #AB95-225 M/S/C/U(Neville/Farr) to approve the Consent Agenda as presented. CLAIMS/CHECK REGISTERS Vouchers audited and certified by the auditing officer as required by RCW 42.24.080, and those expense reimbursement claims certified as required by RCW 42.24.090, have been recorded on a listing that had been made available to the Council. M/S/C/U(Colvin/Dawkins) on October 11, 1995, the Council does approve for payment those vouchers included and further described as follows: 188564 through 188566, 188602 through 188799 in the amount of $1,498,946.57; and Regular Payroll for the period ending 9-30-95, in the amount of $682,225.06. president Huff-Menees made the following announcement: (1) City Council Study Session - October 16, 1995, starting at 5:30 P.M., in the Council conference Room. Topics to be discussed: (A) Presentation By Consultant John Haywood on Risk Management Review; (B) Computer Upgrade; (C) Executive Session to discuss review of Personnel Performance. COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS Mr. Overson reported today he attended a meeting of the Catholic Community Services where they received an update report on the reconstruction project going on at the "old Elks building". Efforts are underway to rename that facility and of the names considered all have "Truman" as part of the designation. The present plan identifies completion date of the facility and TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 2 of 20 operational in April of 1996. The project calls for retail space in the section facing Pacific Avenue and on the second floor. Anyone interested in using some of that retail space, such as restaurants, should contact the Catholic Community Services Office in Seattle. Mr. Neville wished his wife "Happy Anniversary" today. Mr. Farr reported on a good turnout at the Neighborhood Information Network meeting on October 10th. The agenda for that meeting included a guest speaker from HUD and Bremerton Housing Authority, who discussed the administration of subsidized housing in the neighborhoods. Comments will still be received on that topic and anyone desiring to add their input may contact Mayor Horton's Office or the City Council Office. Today, he received a call from Mary Sump, who was involved in a very serious automobile accident, expressing her extreme thanks to the City employees and members of the community for their donations of food and money to her family. She did not know how they would have survived without the generous help offered. Mr. Law reported the District #3 Neighborhood Meeting will be held October 17, 1995, 7:00 P.M., at the Senior Center. The subject of that meeting will be "What Are Your 1995 Priorities For Bremerton". He is interested in hearing input on the issue of the City's 1996 budget and any other concerns residents may have. Under the heading of "have I got a deal for you", the State of Washington has published in various publications an insert on Washington's Transportation Plan and in this plan is a Survey, which is to be mailed back to the State. Anyone wishing to fill out the Survey may do so by picking up a copy in the foyer of City Hall. He noted Question #3 on the survey asks whether or not you are interested in having an expansion of the ferry service. Mailing in the Surveys is important because the Department Of Transportation will be counting the replies and in turn those sending in the Surveys will receive a Washington State Map. Mr. Montgomery reported on another enjoyable evening at Yesterday's Dinner Theater. Work on Forest Ridge Park is progressing slowly. A number of complaints have been made regarding the barricades having a pedestrian access into the park, which is currently being corrected. It was noted that someone drove around the barricades along the side of the hillside. He announced a couple of trees were removed along 1st Street due to installation of a utility line. He pointed out the trees were located in City right-of-way- Mr. Colvin reported on a very enjoyable evening at the Bremerton TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 3 of 20 Symphony. He announced on October 15 the Ebenezer African Methodist Church will celebrate its 83rd birthday and everyone is invited to help them celebrate. He expressed his "thanks" to the employees/management of Holly Ridge for their interest in helping to get rid of the Scotch broom on Warren Avenue Bridge. He hoped other citizens might join in helping to do away with the Scotch broom and replant the areas with other kinds of vegetation. He has no solution for parking problems in Bremerton, if there are problems. The next District #1 Neighborhood Meeting, scheduled for November 16, will consist of a roundtable discussion between the current City Council members and former City Council members. Mr. Winters stated he hoped the Catholic Community Services would pick his entry for naming their facility. He reminded everyone of Kitsap Party, which will be held October 14, and the fact it is a unique, elegant night out on the town and at the same time raising funds for many worthwhile agencies. He reminded those attending that event to please enjoy the food, but to be cautious about their drinking. Mrs. Huff-Menees wished Mr. Neville and his wife Kathi "Happy Anniversary"- MAYOR'S REPORT Mayor Lynn Hotton made the following announcements: (1) The 1996 Applications for Christmas In April/Kitsap are available in her office. Those residing in Kitsap County and own their home and can establish a need, may be eligible to have repairs done to their home at no cost. (2) The 1996 State Side Recycle Weeks begins October 16. Since 1987 citizens of Washington State have set an example nation-wide for solid waste reduction. Information on programs and activities can be obtained by calling 1-800-RECYCLE. The City is sponsoring a program titled ,'Pollution Prevention Contract", which offers household options for reduction of toxins and solid waste. Information on that program may be obtained by calling Terrie O'Neill, Municipal Services Coordinator 478-5387. Mayor Horton reported the Growth ManagementAppeals Board rejected Kitsap County's Comprehensive Plan in total, which she found to be a surprise to most people. The sense was a portion of that Plan would be nullified, but having the whole document thrown out is detrimental to the City as well as the County. The City has been involved with the discussion with the County and State and other appellants in the Growth Management Appeals and are committed to working cooperatively with the County to achieve a remedy. She TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 4 of 20 believes there needs to be an understanding of what the Growth Management Act is all about and the City needs some assurances that some attitudes are going to change and the County will work cooperatively for the best interest of all. She does not believe anyone knows what the final outcome will be on this issue, but everyone is committed to having a successful end to the problems faced over the past several years. Mayor Horton read the following Proclamation: (1) October 1995 as HEADSTART MONTH. The Proclamation was accepted by Jeanie Johnson and Lorraine Olson from the Head Start Program. Mayor Horton introduced Building Department Inspectors Janet Lunceford and Scott Erickson, who have prepared a presentation showing properties that the City has abated in the past two years. She pointed out many of the properties have been abated by the property owners themselves, which is the City's goal and may be attributable to the threat of the City's revolving Abatement Fund. She thanked the City's Street Department for their part in supplying the physical labor for a number of the abatements. Janice Lunceford showed slides with a descriptive narrative of many of the properties abated. PUBLIC RECOGNITION Emily Moshav, Bremerton resident, reported the Bremerton Central Lions Club assisted the Head Start Program when they volunteered to help clear the grounds around the Rosemary Moen Center located in East Park. Today she presented a Certificate Of Appreciation to the Lions Club from KCAP's Head Start Rosemary Moen Center. Also assisting with the grounds renovation work was Larry Gallagher, Coach from Bremerton High School, along with his basketball team and a football team member. Jeannee Brown, 1904 Marine Drive, stated she was speaking on behalf of Bremerton residents living along Marine Drive. They are requesting the City to look at the corner of Marine Drive and South Marine Drive. Mrs. Brown submitted a signed petition stating: "We, the undersigned residents of Bremerton, Washington, residing on or nearby the 1500 to 2000 blocks of Marine Drive, do hereby petition the City Council to install warning lights and sign across marine Drive at approximately the South Marine Drive Intersection. This deterrent hopefully will accomplish a number of things: (1) It will cause drivers to slow to the legal posted speed limit of 25 MPH. (2) It will allow residents from South Marine Drive to access Marine Drive without risk of vehicular damage. TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October ll, 1995 Page 5 of 20 (3) It will allow residents of Marine Drive who live around the blind right-hand curve immediately after the South Marine Drive intersection to exit from their driveways without being hit by speeding cars. (4) It will allow children walking to the school bus stop which is on Marine Drive directly after the blind right-hand curb to cross the street without fear of being hit. (5) It will facilitate a safer environment for all the walkers, joggers and bicyclists who travel the lovely Marine Drive road. (6) It will reduce the disproportionate deaths to neighborhood animals that has been experienced by residences of that area for years. (7) It will address the issue before a child is killed. We, the undersigned therefore ask that you give serious consideration to our request. Signed by 23 residents of Marine Drive and South Marine Drive." CarolVn Hershberger, Marine Drive resident, support the issues raised in the petition submitted by Mrs. Brown. Maynard Hoffman, South Marine Drive resident, stated he supported Mrs. Brown's efforts to bring about a safer environment in their neighborhood. He walks Marine Drive 3-4 times each week and has for the past six years and agrees that it is hazardous and is quite familiar with the traffic situation in that area. He estimated that at least 20% of all traffic on Marine Drive travels 40-50 MPH. During his six years of walking along that route, he has never seen a vehicle pulled over by the Police Department on the straight-away on Marine Drive. He has seen Police vehicles parked at the top of the hill and even talked with the officers about why they don't go after vehicles speeding along the straight-away. One of the worst speeding violators along Marine Drive is a Bremerton School bus driver. When Mr. Hoffman exits on to South Marine Drive he has a view of approximately 75 yards, which gives him time to pull out and turn right, except when a vehicle driving 50-60 MPH comes around the curve identified by Mrs. Brown, and he has had several close calls to being hit. He urged the City to look into this matter because it is a hazardous situation. Mrs. Brown related an incident where a large "turf" loaded semi- truck was backing into her property and a young girl in a speeding vehicle hit that truck and luckily she hit the truck's tire instead TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 6 of 20 of the truck, which would have decapitated her. In 1970 three of Mrs. Brown's high school friends came around that same curve traveling real fast and one was killed when the vehicle rolled into tree. Mr. Montgomery stated he would like to meet with residents of that area along with members of the Engineering Department. Don Larson, President Washington Scuba Alliance, stated he has noticed the City-trash receptacles downtown (green wired baskets) are not holding up and many times are found to be overflowing with garbage. He observed that the receptacle by the old J.C. Penneye building was missing the liner or a lid and people were throwing their trash into the wire holder, which isn't a pretty sight. He recommended the City start phasing out the wire baskets and replace them with something more sturdy like the concrete aggregate type, which were installed by the Port Of Bremerton at the marina by the Ferry Terminal. He was contacted by the Department Of Navy about their plan to raise the 136 ft. wooden mine sweeper that sunk at a Navy buoy in Sinclair Inlet last December. The Navy is receptive to remove that boat to another underwater park, but the problem has been finding a site that has the proper permits. He would like to see Bremerton have a marine park, such as the City of Edmonds, but it needs to start with the City Council and into the overall plan for the City. Mr. Dawkins stated he thought a Marine Park would be a great tourist attraction. Mr. Winters stated he shared Mr. Larson's concerns about the green wire garbage cans in the downtown area and the fact they leak onto the sidewalk. He would like to see the cans and sidewalks power washed. He thought Bremerton Main Street Association might be able to fund replacing the green garbage cans by implementing a program that included "sponsor plates". Joe Mentor stated many people have asked him about his opinion on keeping the Missouri in Bremerton. He does support the idea of keeping the U.S.S. Missouri in Bremerton, but believes it should be owned and operated by the National Parks Service. He recommended placing the U.S.S Missouri where the Turner Joy is now anchored. He did not support the idea of asking the Navy to give up any of its land in the shipyard for the U.S.S. Missouri. Mr. Colvin thanked Mr. Mentor for coming down to the Council meeting. Mr. Montgomery noted he wrote letter to all the Congressmen and Senators and received three responses, and all of them were very not very supportive on any suggestion. Mr. Mentor stated at this time it will not be an easy sell and the National Parks people he talked with stated they don't have funds to take on such a project. He believes if that ship goes to Hawaii, it will be financed by the National Park Service. TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 7 of 20 #2059 John Thomas complimented the City Council on taking the first step to sell the 4th Street Building. In the future, he hoped the Council would go out for an independent appraisal when staff presents proposals for acquisition of real estate. Mayor Hotton stated in response to the garbage can issue, the cans were purchased 4-5 years ago and selected for aesthetics more than function and without lids cost in the order of $15,000. She is already looking into the options, such as relocating them to areas that have less traffic volume, replacing the liners with a product that will not rot out, or phase them out. She hoped the problem could be resolved in the not too distant future. 7A - CHANGE OF RYDER CONTRACT (FLEET MAINTENANCE) TO REFLECT NEW WORKING HOURS, #AB95-226 Requesting to remove the swing shift operation to daytime hours only. Two mechanics that normally reported for a swing shift operation now report at 9:30 AM and work until 6:00 PM. Request modification of the existing contract as per Section 16, which requires City Council approval. Randv Witt, City Engineer, stated the new schedule has been used for the past 90 days and found to be very successful both from Ryder's operations, Public Works Department administration and the users of the facility. Public comment - none. Mr. Neville asked if there had been a history of a lot of over time costs? Mr. Witt stated no, the contract does not have a pay differential, but it did allow a night person to work. By pulling the function into the day shift, it allowed better supervision of that night person and better utilization of the overall work force. Mr. Neville questioned the statement that there would be a savings on utility cost? Mr. Witt explained that referred to lighting and heating the facility at night. M/S/C/U(Overson/Law) to approve changes as stated above. 8A - PUBLIC HEARING ON PSN8 EXPANSION AREA 8TREET VACATION ORDINANCE (FIRST READING) AND MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT ON EXCHANGE OF PROPERTY RIGHTS, #AB95-227 The Navy has requested the City to vacate portions of Farraqut Street, Rodgers Street, Coontz Street, Montgomery Avenue, and alleys in the PSNS expansion area (see attached drawing). The Navy, as a Federal agency, is not required to compensate the City for the vacated right-of-way pursuant to State law. However, staff TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 8 of 20 #2209 #2247 has negotiated with the Navy to provide compensation in the form of a permanent easement for the new CSO structure and the new 84 inch stormwater outfall line, and a modification to the existing 1950 agreement for modifications of the CSO outfall. The attached memorandum of agreement (MOA) details the vacated rights-of-way, withheld easements for existing utilities, and new easements. Staff recommends concurrent approval of the MOA and reading of the vacation ordinance. Randy Witt, City Engineer, stated this is the culmination of one of a long series of projects the City's has going with the Navy at the current time. We have been aware of their expansion area for sometime as they demolished houses and as the City coordinated with them on the Callow Avenue project. The Callow project and the Navy's project has come to the point for the City to vacate the property to the Navy. As mentioned in the summary statement, the City does not have the normal capacity for reimbursement of properties vacated, but the City was able to negotiate with the Navy certain things that are needed as part of the Callow project at no cost to the City that they would normally charge the City. The Memorandum Of Agreement also covers other things in terms of withheld easements and areas of responsiblity. If approved, the vacation would be effective November 1, or when the City receives the Memorandum Of Agreement from the Navy fully executed. Public comment - none. Mr. Overson stated he found it to be grand that staff and the Navy have been able to work together on this program. The Navy again demonstrates itself to be a wonderful agency and the best thing that has happened to this City. M/S/C/U(Overson/Montgomery) to authorize and direct the Mayor to execute the attached Memorandum of Agreement between the City and the Navy regarding the exchange of property rights; M/S/C(Overson/Montgomery) to approve ordinance (first reading) approving the vacation of portions of Montgomery Avenue, Farragut Street, Coontz Street, Rodgers Street, the alley bounded by Callow Avenue, Montgomery Avenue, First Street, and Farragut Street, and the alley bounded by Wycoff Avenue, Callow Avenue, Rodgers Street, and Farragut Street. Vote on motion: In Favor: Overson, Neville, Farr, Law, Huff-Menees, Montgomery, Dawkins, Winters Opposed: Colvin TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 9 of 20 Motion carried. 8B - PUBLIC HEARING ON STREET STANDARDS AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO. 2531, #AB95-228 The existing Street Standards for Bremerton do not meet the City's development needs. Specifically, they provide a one-size fits all approach which yields wide streets. To address the problems with the existing streets standards, the Engineering Division, in cooperation with other City departments, the Mayor's office, Planning Commission, and Development Community, undertook a review of the standards. The revised standards provide a pedestrian friendly, flexible, traffic appropriate standard to the street development. The attached proposed street standards provide a balance between lane width, on-street parking, sidewalks, and other issues. Additionally, the attached Resolution provides for development of policies and procedures regarding construction of frontage improvements by a developer. Staff recommends approval of the attached Resolution. Randy Witt, City Engineer, stated the revised standards are a culmination of a lot of work by a lot of people and has been in progress for quite some time, but at a slow pace, and now the Engineering Department is ready to move forward with the revisions. He feels comfortable with the proposed changes and believes it is a good standard to present to Council for their consideration. Mayor Lynn Hotton stated 3-4 years ago the Kitsap County Regional Planning Council sponsored a weekend long workshop, called Vision Kitsap, where approximately 200 people were shown a series slides and asked to rate two slides against each other. The result of that exercise was a composite of what people really preferred in terms of development standards and what kind of community they would prefer to live in. One of the things that struck her most was the street stands that other communities had adopted and were most favorably received by the participants at the workshop. Those standards tended to be smaller, tree lined and with gentle curves, making them more pedestrian, neighborhood and community friendly. By allowing smaller width streets, it allows development to come in at a lesser standard, which can result in putting more money into neighborhood amenities rather than into a concrete street. With that comes an additional factor - safety. When there are narrower streets in a gentle curving configuration people tend to slow down, which results in a community having better traffic safety control. By getting away from our "one size fits all" standard, a much better approach is achieved to developing and redeveloping our community because we are not "one size fits all" kinds of neighborhoods throughout the City. She emphasized the focus of the TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 10 of 20 revised standards are primarily on the residential areas and non- arterial streets. There have been discussions over the past few years on the difference between public and private streets. Street standards should be the same whether it is a public or private street because there is still the need to get fire trucks and garbage trucks down the street no matter who has ownership of that street. She did not want Council to differentiate standards for public streets verses private streets. One of the things Council may hear during this hearing has to do with "planting strip areas" and that typically people won't maintain those areas. She stressed "planting strips" do not have to be just grassy areas, but can be filled with landscaping materials, beauty bark, ivy, ground cover, etc. The City is working on a Street Tree Program as well as a City Urban Forest Nursery. She encouraged Council and the community to look at what makes for a viable and attractive neighborhood. She personally believes street trees are an important component and by having a Street Tree Program and Street Tree Nursery, the City can aid that transition and ultimately redevelop some of the areas of the City. The collaborative effort included not just internal staff but also the development community, the Planning Commission and City Council. The Planning Commission gave this issue careful study that included site visits. She urged Council to support those efforts and approve the standards as presented. Randy Witt, City Engineer, gave a little history that involved several staff members and several City Council members attending a conference in Oregon that involved a trip to Portland and a tour of various areas where different street standards had been used and how it changed the character of neighborhoods. He introduced Engineering staff member Ned Lever, who was given the task of developing the revised standards upon his employment with the City. The revision process involved meeting with City staff members from various departments, members of the development community, the Planning Commission and the City Council in a Study Session. The two biggest supporters of the revised standards are the City's Fire Department and the development community. The City's current street standards are "one size fits all" - they dedicate streets in 32 and 36 feet of pavement (curb-to-curb widths), which does not allow much flexibility. Mr. Witt pointed out the revised standards makes no distinction between public and private streets... they serve the same purpose, TAPE #1325 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 11 of 20 but there may be times when the developer wants the streets to be private rather than public and the street will look the same to the motoring and traveling public. The following points of the revised standards were highlighted: (1) Established Street Standards based on traffic volume. (2) New street categories in the neighborhood street areas. (3) Allowed shared driveway concept where up to l0 unites can go on a shared driveway with no curb, gutter or sidewalks and would be private and maintained by the homeowners. (4) Provided flexibility on parking, which would allow the developer to have a method of offsetting on-street parking by providing it elsewhere in the development. (5) Provided the concept of queuing lanes where the street is narrowed down and allow pull outs for traffic to pass. This allows traffic to go slower. (6) Allowing one-way lanes. (7) Required vertical curbs, off-set sidewalks with planter areas and undergrounding utilities. Mr. Witt provided a slide presentation that showed the features of varying street widths, landscaped planting strips, tree lined streets, and traffic flow variations. Ned Lever, Engineer, briefly reviewed the layout of the Street Standards ... categories of streets: Short Plat and Short Subdivision Shared Driveway Access/9 units; Local Access Two Way; Local Access One Way; Sub-Collector Two Way; Sub-Collector One Way; Collector Arterial; Minor Arterial; Principal Arterial; Commercial Industrial. The Design Elements for each of those streets include: Ultimate Average Daily Traffic Or Design Hourly Volume; Sidewalks; On-Street Parking Required; Minimum Lane Widths; Standard Plan/Structural Sect.; Max Allowable Grade %; Curb And Gutter; Utility Easement Required Beyond R.O.W.. TAPE #1326 The first issue addressed was Alley Section, which allows for a 15 ft. right-of-way width, a 13 ft. paved width, no curb-gutter- sidewalk. Shared Driveway Section for Short Plats and Short Subdivision Access - this would serve a fixed number of homes ( 9 or less) with a maximum length of 500 feet. (note: if the driveway was longer than 500 feet the homes would have to be sprinklered.) The City's existing Street Standard was too wide for a lot of the infill lots in the City, so this provides something that is feasible and TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 12 of 20 provides adequate access to smaller lots. Local Access Street, - this allows street width of 20 feet two-way or 15 feet with queuing lane with a seven foot parking lane, or a 13 ft. one-way. The Parking Lane would be optional and depends on the amount of off-street parking provided by the developer. Mr. Dawkins asked if he understood correctly that the sidewalk would not be up to the curb and would be set back? Mr. Lever explained all sidewalks proposed for residential areas have planting strips and 5-ft. wide sidewalks. Mr. Dawkins asked if the property owners would be informed by the developer that the sidewalk area and planting strip must be maintained by the homeowner? Mr. Lever explained that could be handled in the Covenants on the plat so that the neighborhood covenant could cover maintenance. Mr. Witt stated there is a real need to see that maintenance happens, but at this time it is not clear what form it can be identified, i.e., the covenants or something else. Also, the Resolution adopting the proposed revised standards includes directing staff to get some further direction and guidance together for developers in the form of Policies and Procedures. Mr. Montgomery asked if the City will require a straight curb or rolled curb? Mr. Lever explained all the curbs proposed are vertical barrier curbing as well as a 7.5 ft. easement on both sides for underground utilities. The Fire Department made a note that sidewalks shall be located on the side opposite the parking lane when one-way streets are used. That requirement was added due to the Fire Department's trucks needing extra room for removing ladders. Mr. Law stated he understood the Fire Department required a five foot width and he was seeing a 3 foot notation on the plan. Mr. Lever stated for a one-way street with parking the Fire Department is requiring the sidewalk be placed on the side away from the parking. Sub-Collector Street - this is another residential street that sees more traffic and is similar to the Local Access in that there are one-way streets, two-way streets and queuing lane. They have increased the two-way to two 11 ft. lanes, maintained a 15 ft. queuing lane and provide for a 13 ft. one-way lane. Because this kind of street sees more traffic, it was determined more parking should be required. Parking lanes are required on both sides of the street, which are optional if the developer provides additional off-street parking. Planting strips are included along with five foot wide sidewalks on both sides. Mr. Colvim asked if the Fire Department was completely satisfied with these requirements? Lever stated at this point the Fire Department provided their opinion in writing that they are satisfied with what is being proposed in the revised standards. TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 13 of 20 Arterials - these are the kind of streets the City will be building, but not the type being built in developments. This street usually has a high volume of traffic and requires wider streets, i.e. Wheaton Way, Kitsap Way, etc. Mr. Mont~omerTasked if sidewalks will be required on both sides of the street along with planting strips? Mr. Lever stated it was optional and the design shown indicated both sides. Mr. Overson asked why wasn't there flexibility in the planter strip width, such as 3 or 4 ft.? Mr. Lever stated they developed what they viewed as the minimum allowable width. The five foot width allows for trees to be planted without a car opening its door and hitting the tree due to the safe zone (2 1/2 ft.) beyond the curb. And, it gives tree roots enough room to grow without damaging the sidewalk or curb and cutter. They have heard from some of the developers that the 7 1/2 ft. width is not enough and if a development is proposed with wider planting strips, Engineering won't argue that point. Commercial/Industrial Street - attached or detached sidewalks with planting strips have been allowed. If the sidewalk is attached, a 6 ft. width is required to provide pedestrian safety. A detached sidewalk with planting strips would require a 5 ft. width. Two 15 ft. lanes would be allowed and in a commercial area this could be two 11 ft. lanes with a 4 ft. bike lane on each side, which would be delineated by a paint stripe. Cul-De-Sac - currently there is a 80-ft. diameter requirement, which is fairly large. The revised standards show a reduced pavement diameter to 70 feet for residential sites and 90 ft. for commercial/industrial sites. Mr. Mont~omer~ asked if alleys will be required in all new developments? Mr. Lever stated no, they provided a street cross section for alleys, which would again provide some flexibility for developers. Mr. Montgomery asked if street width could be reduced if alleys were included? Mr. Lever stated no reduction in street width has been allowed if alleys are used. The street widths are based on the amount of traffic volume, which is based on the number of homes serviced. Ideally, the idea is to reduce the amount of through traffic in residential areas. Mr. Montgomer~ asked if Engineering would consider a plan, submitted by a developer, that had reduced street width along with alleys? Mr. Witt stated it is readily expected that as the revised standards are used over the next year more ways to improve it will be found. In response to the alley question, if we are in the local access street where there is a minimum, he did not see a lot of "wiggle room". But, if the location was a sub-collector street and it can be shown that a lot of the traffic that generated the requirement for the sub- TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 14 of 20 collector would not be using that particular street, then they can reassess the requirement. Mr. Montgomez7 stated he believed the nation-wide trend is going away from wide streets and including alleys in more major developments. Mr. Wltt stated he sensed that was true in large platted areas; however, the City is proposing to do that without alleys. Scott Rapley, Fire Department, expressed the Fire Departments appreciation of the effort Randy Witt put into determining the needs of the Fire Department. Their involvement in the revised standards resulted in all of their recommendations being made a part of the proposed standards. They are pleased with the revised standards and believe they can live with them. The length of one- way streets has been limited and when narrow 13 ft. wide streets are proposed room has been provided on both sides, which will facilitate their removing ladders and accessing their fire truck compartments. The change to the cul-de-sac dimensions was made based on the turning radius of the fire trucks. The proposed standards will allow more flexibility for the developer. Mr. Winters asked what happens in five years when a new designed fire truck is purchased and its turning need is 10 ft. more? Mr. Raplev explained the Department Of Transportation addresses that issue and does not allow anything wider. Mr. Colvin asked if they had addressed the situation of a stalled vehicle on a narrow street? Mr. Rapley stated if they are faced with a stopped or stalled vehicle, they could possibly access the property from the opposite direction, or if that was not possible, it would not be unreasonable for them to pull the hoses from the trucks to the house involved. Mr. Colvin asked that same scenario and its affect on paramedic services? Mr. RapleV stated his reply would be same and would not be an unreasonable distance for the paramedics to walk to the call site. Mr. Law noticed the alley width is 13 ft. width and questioned if there would be no areas where an alley would have to be used as an access for a fire truck? Mr. Ra~leV stated normally they would not use an alley for access. However, they generally require access around buildings and when that is required the street must be within 150 feet of all areas of that building. He noted alleys are used more for aid calls than fire responses. Mike Hancock, developer/home builder and real estate broker, echoed Mr. Witt's comments about the input the development community has had into this proposal and they do appreciate being involved. Staff has listened to what they had to say and many of those things are reflected in the revised standards. He was a little concerned that they had not been able to absorb this version of the revised standards since they just picked up a copy of the draft this afternoon. Upon a cursory review, he did have a couple of minor TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 15 of 20 comments and one issue that was near and dear to him. In reference to the shared driveway plan, which is currently specified to be allowed for a short plat and short-subdivision access, he requested an amendment that would allow shared driveways in a long sub- division that meets the rest of the standards. That could consist from 10-100 lots, but in the portion of the plat that this road section would serve is nine or less lots as indicated by their proposal. In reference to the sub-collector segment, if he builds a sub- collector within a sub-division that does not have direct access to a residential unit then he would like to have the ability to eliminate the on-street parking requirement and have the sidewalk on only one side of the street. In areas where a driveway for a residence would come onto this road section, then the standards that are proposed are fine. The standard that concerns him the most is the sidewalk standards. The sidewalks proposed have been represented as something that "feels good". He was not sure that was good enough reason to develop standards. One thing he noticed was absent in the staff's slide presentation was pedestrians. He did not see anyone using sidewalks, so from a developer's standpoint and from a consumer standpoint he got heartburn over building a sidewalk standard that is nice but something no one uses. Therefore, he would like to see a little more flexibility in that requirement. He suggested the City hire an independent Traffic Engineer to conduct a study of traffic on sidewalks and propose standards based on usage, not on appearance. He felt there is need to develop a DHPV, which would be a designed hourly pedestrian volume and a ADPT, which would be an average daily pedestrian volume. And, consumers need to be asked if they are willing to pay more for their house if there is a 5 ft. sidewalk in front of it rather than a 3 ft. wide sidewalk. Consumers should also be asked if they are willing to pay more for the house, if the curb and gutter have to be jackhammered and moved. His personal experience in Bremerton has been that there hasn't been a time that he hasn't had to jackhammer the curb and gutter in order to relocate a driveway. When he takes on a development, he does not always build on every lot, and tries to guess the best spot for the curb and gutter, but someone else may come along with a different design that does not match up with the driveway cut. Having to take out curbs and gutters is expensive and that cost is passed on to the consumer at rate of approximately $3,916 for something that is only really worth $1,782. His argument for rolled curbs is that no matter where the house is located on the lot he will be able to place the driveway without having to alter the curb and gutter. He does understand that there is a lot of opposition to rolled curbs. Mr. Montgomer3Fpointed out even with the rolled curb the sidewalk would be affected. Mr. TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 16 of 20 Hancock went on to explained how he would address that point. Generally, he finds that the only time sidewalks get broken up is during the construction period when heavy construction trucks access the site and that is remedied at the time construction is complete. Mr. Hancock proposed the following options: (1) if he has to put in a vertical curb, allow him to do a continuous vertical curb in his development with no curb cuts. (2) To allow the standard four inch thick sidewalks throughout. (3) To make the sidewalks a condition of occupancy and not a condition of the development. In earlier discussions, one of the things he proposed was to allow some flexibility in how the sidewalks are placed in relationship to the street. What he is asking for, as a developer, is the same thing the staff is asking for on behalf of the City. When the City builds a street, according to their standards, they have an option to connect the sidewalk or detaching a sidewalk. They have been told in their development standards that they have to do detached sidewalks. He proposed that if there is to be an attached sidewalk, then it should be the thicker and wider sidewalk; and when a sidewalk is detached the width can be narrowed based on how far away from the street it is detached. If he went with a minimum 5 ft. detachment, he should be able to drop from a 5 ft. or 6 ft. down to a 4 ft.; if he goes back 10 feet from the curb and gutter, he should be able to go down to a 3 ft. width. He liked the idea of street trees and saw nothing wrong with placing them on the back side of the sidewalk if it fit more into the kind of development he was wanting to build. He urged Council to look seriously at the standards that adversely affect the cost of the homes to the consumer. He was glad to hear staff make the comment that the proposed standard is not a perfect document and could be amended as the need arose. Tom Rosebraugh, 1376 Jacobsen Blvd., stated one of the things about living on Jacobsen Blvd., is very similar to what has been described as an ideal situation. They have nice trees along the street, however, they do have a some problems, such as several houses having no on-site parking, so the main architectural feature of the upper part of Jacobsen Blvd. where it "y's" off of Trenton, is parked automobiles. He believes the proposed revised standards encourages on-street parking and will lead to a major feature of Bremerton being a city of parked automobiles. He believes off- street parking is one of the most important elements to have a beautiful city. Being a retired engineer, he recognizes the fact that all of these standards are wonderful from an engineering standpoint, but they do not address the beauty of this city, which is something the City Council should start considering even to a point of establishing a committee comprised of architects and TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 17 of 20 artists that might look at some of the engineering stands and see how they will make the City look. David Smith, Randolph, Alexander, Smith Property Management, stated he was part of the development community that participated in the discussion to develop the revised standards. He also complimented the staff for doing a great job and looking at some of the changing development that is occurring across the country and in Bremerton. He feels the planting strips and sidewalks proposed in the new standards do fit; however, when a developer provides substantial open space, particularly in the middle of the development, he believed they had a good argument that the planting strip would be needed only on one side. He has suggested to the Engineering staff that the aesthetic issue go back to Planning and there could be some flexibility, particularly in the Planned Unit Development process. Being a fitness advocate, he likes sidewalks and agreed not all of them needed to be 5 feet wide. Steve Ottmar, Land surveyor, stated he works on a lot of projects that are not located on a main road and the main access may be an easement or right-of-way that may be substandard. Within their own projects they had no problem with the proposed standards, but sometimes they may be restricted by off-site conditions that are beyond their control. He would like to see some discretionary power given to the City Engineer in instances where these off-site conditions are beyond the developer's control. President Huff-Menees thanked members of the development community for not only participating in developing the proposed standards, but for also attending this hearing and giving Council their input. Mr. Overson asked if Council should continuing those pieces into the future addressing the standard proposed in allowing this to be a living document that they could modify as time goes on? President Huff-Menees stated it was her understanding that some consideration has already been given on most of the issues raised during this hearing. Mr. Witt explained most of the issues are straight forward and some were just misunderstandings or differences of opinion and the choice will come down to a decision by the City Council. The most obvious example of that is the off- set sidewalk. He re-emphasized the proposed Street Standard is a living document and he anticipates some minor changes may be needed in a year or so. Mr. Law stated he concurred with Mr. Overson and felt at this time it would be inappropriate to make changes that were presented to Council without staff having a chance to review it. He felt a "living document" would allow changes to be made later on and if there is a concern, an appeal can be made for an exception through the Planning Commission, which would then come back to the City Council. TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 18 of 20 Mr. Witt made the following responses to comments made by the public: (1) Shared driveways will be allowed in long sub-divisions. (2) Sub-collectors - limiting sidewalks to one side if no homes are located on the opposite site. Mr. Witt felt that needed further investigation on a case-by-case basis. But, some of the factors that must be looked at are: what is the through movement for pedestrians; what is the ultimate development beyond it? The Comprehensive Plan encourages sidewalks for pedestrian traffic and non-motorized traffic. (3) 5-ft. width of sidewalks - Mr. Witt believes it is critical for the sidewalk to work very well. Reducing it to 3 or 4 feet creates an uncomfortable feeling. He based that opinion on the basis of using himself and Ned as examples and both of them being fairly narrow people and utilization of a 4 ft. sidewalk puts a person in the position of invading someone's space. Wider sidewalks allows two people to walk comfortably side-by-side. (4) wavering sidewalks - one of the factors that may come into play is how much on-street parking is being provided in the subdivision and what is the need for that sidewalk. (5) Rolled curb - Mr. Witt pointed out the tapering of the sidewalk next to the curb is only required at the curb radiuses, so once you get into straightaway sections of a sidewalk the taper disappears. The City's current requirement is to have a 6-inch thick sidewalk at all driveway sections. One of the things that came out during discussions with the developers that they will pursue, is not having that requirement and let them go to a four inch thickness, but require a 2-year warrantee. In reference to the comment that at the time of construction the worst damage is done to the sidewalk, the contractor will take care of the sidewalk and the City will set up a program to make inspections after two years. The Engineering Department does not support the use of rolled curbs because it would put a lot of traffic on the planting strips unnecessarily. In regard to the comment made that developers could put in the vertical curb and not make curb cuts for driveways until the lot is built up, he felt that was the developer's call. (6) Variable width of sidewalks - Mr. Witt pointed out the concept of sidewalks against the curb being 5-ft., if the sidewalk is 4 ft. away from the curb, then a 4 ft. sidewalk would be appropriate. He restated his position that a 5 ft. wide sidewalk is the most appropriate since it allows two people to walk side-by-side without invading the other side of the walkway, and that is the feeling the City wants to create. Mr. Witt also noted that reducing the sidewalk also brings in the ADA requirements of having pull-outs as part of that sidewalk, which are not required for the 5-ft. width. (7) City is encouraging street parking - Mr. Witt was surprised by that comment since he believed just the opposite was being projected by providing the developer with the means/standard to live to if he wants parking on the street and if he wants to remove parking from the street that can be built into the design of the development. (8) When there is a restriction by TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 19 of 20 off-site conditions that don't allow development to occur according to the standards - Mr. Witt emphasized it is their intention to work with the developer to meet the standards, but they may need to bring issues to Council for some sort of final decision for a variance from that standard. Mr. Witt concluded with the comment that the only two outstanding issues are rolled curbs and off-set sidewalks and he urged Council to approve the revised standards as presented. Mr. Overson referenced Mr. Rosebraugh's comment relative to improving the views/aesthetics, and asked Mr. Witt if he had any plans for working on that issue? Mr. Witt stated he believed that was at the heart of why they are asking for off-set sidewalks, which will create an area for landscaping. Again, it is a minimum standard and any developer wishing to increase that standard will have their support. Their intent is to require developers to plant the planting strips. Mr. Overson asked if there was a possibility to have a requirement for certain areas to build these standards where they presently do not exist in existing areas? Mr. Witt stated the City does not require that existing streets be brought up to new standards. Improving streets in existing areas is always a challenge and the goal is to get as close to the standards as possible. If the Jacobsen Blvd., residents felt strongly about improving their street, they could form a Local Improvement District (LID). Mr. Lever referenced Mr. Rosebraugh's comment that the City is encouraging on-street parking and he did not know the situation of the off-street parking on Jacobsen Blvd., but the Zoning Ordinance currently requires two off-street parking stall per unit and on- street parking is additional. The developer must provide two stalls off-street and he can provide additional off-street parking and delete the on-street parking. There are a lot of existing areas in Bremerton that do not have adequate off-street parking, which adds to the on-street parking problems. President Huff-Menees complimented Mr. Lever and Mr. Witt not only on the revised standards, but also for the process created and the communications that took place and the input obtained, which provided Council with a great deal more confidence in the standard presented. Mr. Overson also thanked the members of the development community for giving their professional input to help the City Council decide on the proposal before them. Mr. Colvin stated he was prepared to vote against this proposal due to lack of parking, but based on the fact the developer must provide two-off street parking spaces per unit, he will support the proposal. Mr. Witt explained the current zoning has a requirement #1915 TAPE #1326 City Council Reg. Mtg. Minutes October 11, 1995 Page 20 of 20 for on-site parking depending on the type of development; and the current zoning assumes a certain amount of on-street parking. What they have said is if the developer provides for that on-street parking within the development somewhere else - off-side possibly going 3-spaces per unit, or a common parking area, the on-street parking will be eliminated. Mr. Colvim referenced a comment that people don't use sidewalks and walk in the street any way and asked Mr. Witt to reconcile not providing sidewalks because people don't use them. Mr. Witt stated he is recommending sidewalks either on one side or both sides of streets, with the exception of the private driveway. M/S/C/~(Montgomery/Farr) to adopt the attached Resolution No. 2531, approvxng the Street Standards for the City of Bremerton. With no further business meeting adjourned at 8:25 P.M.. KA~~City Clerk KLM/SH-M/me cc: Normal Distribution File/Vault